Traders - Warning!

Dear traders:
This post is not about trading, it’s about us - traders.
…and… It’s some kind of warning and “watch out”.

So let the (short) story begin:
I was some kind of “vip” in ForexFactory website. They have some kind of “ranking” system and they “nominated” me as one of their top 1%
“High Impact Member” - based on number of “subscribers” to my post, “budies”, quality information, etc.
My forums and my posts got dozens of visitors each day.

All of a sudden, my “membership” revoked, my posts and forums, which was highly popular, went into the “recycle bin”…
At first I thought it’s some kind of mistake. EMails to Admin, customer support, etc. remain un-unswered.
No warnings, no reasoning, no response - nada…

I can assure you that there was no foul language, insults or any kind of mis-behaviour in any of my posts.
I can also assure you that there was no scam, commercial content, sales pitch, or any kind of money or financial suggestions in any of my posts.

A few days after that - a whole lot of good, honest, helpfull, contributing members got “revoked” membership and their forums/posts went also into the FF “recycle bin”. Most of those forums are full of good ideas, new and innovative indicators and promising trading systems.

Then I strated to do some “digging”…
I’m not going to reveal everything that I found about FF (BTW: we now call them “****ersFactory”…), but the following will give you some idea:
They are hiding their true identity under:
Registrant Name: PERFECT PRIVACY, LLC
That is some kind of “legal” identity with a purpose of hiding the true identity of the owner/s.

If I knew that before registering to their site - I wouldn’t register at all.

I have a pretty good idea why they doing it, but for me that doesn’t matter anymore.
Just beware and exercise caution with FF.

ahhh… they have a good calendar…
(Attached is FF Alexa graph - Traffic Ranks - How is this site ranked relative to other sites)

G.

Yes i am agree with you GG. There are so many people got “revoked”, including : you, eurusdd, saver0, piratepips, kiads, and many other good traders. Some of my other friends got “Additional username” that is another kind of blocking. All without any reason. FF is not a good place for us as trader anymore !!

Thanks, I can add a few more to that list… and I’m proud to be among them…
Spread the word, share and let others beware.
Also, if you come across some info that might lead to the real “obscure” owners of FF - please let us know.

G.

Hi guys, another one here, revoked without a warning, a suspension, a word…nothing.
Just cause defending some friends unfairly accused to be crooks in a thread of that infamous forum you cited.
Some kind of dictatorship there (or even worst…)…if you follow them ok, otherwise, kicked out without explanation (also me not answered in my requests of explanation).
Public opinion has to know! :49:

our new home forum isn´t reachable at the moment… just a coincidence with the threads started by gg53?
Maybe…but how high is the possibility for that? (taking k into calculation lol)

Let see… some dirty individuals don’t fear to use dirty methods to mute people…talking about “membership revoked” or “additional username”??
… o no i am referring to DDOS attacks and similar.
But maybe we are talking about DIFFERENT “approaches” to “problems” that the same people is used to use, who knows… :slight_smile:

I’m with you gg!

If anybody was aware what happened at FF, it was really bizarre. You are more than welcome to go through my profile at FF saver0's Profile @ Forex Factory and find a single thread that violated anything.

There were bunch of users working on this new TZ/RZ concept and we were tackling forex with probabilities and math yielding very high probability trades and good results. Soon after, all of our accounts were terminated. If anybody wants to read the whole story of what happened and our theories for this termination, feel free to go through this thread (penguintraders.com/forums/topic/forexfactory-terminated-users/)

I’m thinking that all of these forums are funded by brokers so they don’t want us to win, its as simple as that. What they want is a bunch of gambling addicts who thinks that they can win and they want useless threads that show the illusion of the possibilities of winning big in FX that cannot be easily replicated. Math can be replicated. Math and probability are the tools that they use against us so when people become aware how easy it is to come up with sound mathematical models that yield high probability results and expose the underlying principles of the market, they get scared and terminate us.

Anyways, we wanted to come out and let the world know what’s going on. We already found ourselves a new home where we are making progress by collaborating together instead of being scared to share publicly thinking that we would lose our edge.

ForexFactory and a lot of these sites aren’t looking out for your best interest, they are there for the brokers. Do you guys know just how much they get paid for each signup? Look at the rates that brokers pay through their affiliate programs and you will be shocked. How can they afford to spend so much for a single sign up and also give deposit bonuses? It’s because they are casinos! When you win, it’s like breaking the casino… makes you think right?

[QUOTE=“saver0;673972”]I’m with you gg!

If anybody was aware what happened at FF, it was really bizarre. You are more than welcome to go through my profile at FF saver0's Profile @ Forex Factory and find a single thread that violated anything.

There were bunch of users working on this new TZ/RZ concept and we were tackling forex with probabilities and math yielding very high probability trades and good results. Soon after, all of our accounts were terminated. If anybody wants to read the whole story of what happened and our theories for this termination, feel free to go through this thread (Topic: ForexFactory terminated users - Penguin Traders)

I’m thinking that all of these forums are funded by brokers so they don’t want us to win, its as simple as that. What they want is a bunch of gambling addicts who thinks that they can win and they want useless threads that show the illusion of the possibilities of winning big in FX that cannot be easily replicated. Math can be replicated. Math and probability are the tools that they use against us so when people become aware how easy it is to come up with sound mathematical models that yield high probability results and expose the underlying principles of the market, they get scared and terminate us.

Anyways, we wanted to come out and let the world know what’s going on. We already found ourselves a new home where we are making progress by collaborating together instead of being scared to share publicly thinking that we would lose our edge.

ForexFactory and a lot of these sites aren’t looking out for your best interest, they are there for the brokers. Do you guys know just how much they get paid for each signup? Look at the rates that brokers pay through their affiliate programs and you will be shocked. How can they afford to spend so much for a single sign up and also give deposit bonuses? It’s because they are casinos! When you win, it’s like breaking the casino… makes you think right?[/QUOTE]

Have a myfxbook showing the results of this system that brokers would feel so threatened by as to ban you from forex factory?

Please stick to the point. What we were working on is not a system, its not some holy grail stuff. Heck, we weren’t even working together per say. It was our approach, its the mathematical approach that nobody really talks about that we were doing. People are so focused on indicators and methods and systems and the holy grail that they forget about math and probability, the tools that brokers and bankers actually use to drain our accounts. It’s using statistics to measure the market. It’s declaring that the markets are a random stochastic process and using this as our basis for coming up with our own theories and testing them. This is what we got banned for. This thread is not about any system or how accurate anything is so I will not talking about that any further (if you want to know more about that, visit my new home and get your mind blown).

This thread is on how messed up of forexfactory to have terminated us and not giving us a reason as to why. It’s about exposing forexfactory for what they are, money hungry broker cartels. I’m stating the fact as to what we were doing so that you can come up with your own theories. They must not have like what we were working on, right? What other reason could it be? Go through my profile at forexfactory. And why would they not like us? Why do they terminate many high impact members when we bring thousands of views/users to them? Why would they go so far to pretty much kill themselves… look at the Alex ranking? See how the traffics been declining? Why is that? Think…

Thanks for the warning!

However, would it be possible for you and your " team" to let it go? I understand that you needed some answers as to why your membership was removed or terminated by FF but I think this is just between you and FF. There is nothing we can do about it. Creating your own forum site is the right step to do to move on…

Of course, you guys are free to contribute here as well if you’d like :slight_smile:

Good-luck!

Just my humble opinion. It’s matter of visibility. Our own forum already been attacked by a DDOS (maybe just a case, but it happened few hours after we started to make the forum world aware of us…).
I already contribute here with another thread giving (with some friends) free signals and i will continue… but the fact is that if we let it go, it will happen again again. Some friends research shown that this “no motivation banning and threads to recycle bin” already happened several times in the past.
This has to stop…all the public opinion has to be informed about how this dudes act! All together we can do much,trust me!

GG53, I’ve just had a look at ff and your posts are still there, albeit in the recycle bin. Agreed, it says your membership is revoked.
The person who was administrator for your Killing Zone thread asked for it to be closed so he would not be associated with any issues raised by the thread.

I’m sorry to say that this is NOT between “us” and FF…
This is between retail TRADERS and FF.
What happened to “us” can happen, and did happened, to any other honest, contributing member of that forum.
We will contribute and post here the best we can - and part of that contribution is to warn others against mis-conduct of brokers and/or forum, especialy when it comes to conflict of interests.

G.

Please scan carefully the “Killing Zone” thread and the “Fractals, ZZ & the Pissing Dog” thread.
Tell me if you can find ANY kind of mis-behaviour, scam, financial propositions of any kind.
I can assure you that you will find NONE.
The Admin of the “Killing Zone” open that thread for me - as you can read from the opening post.
After my membership revoked - he got scared that they will revoke his membership too - and asked to dis-associate himself from me - and also written it in that thread.
Both threads was among the most popular and most appreciated ones for months, ranking among the top 5 “hot” threads, with dozens of visitors every day.

G.

Seems pretty weird. I don’t know what forex factories policy is on advertising or soliciting members to outside groups and or subscription services, and I haven’t read the forex factory threads you mention to see if that what was happening, but I’ve been around forex forums enough to guess that’s probably the underlying issue.

[QUOTE=“saver0;673977”]Please stick to the point. What we were working on is not a system, its not some holy grail stuff. Heck, we weren’t even working together per say. It was our approach, its the mathematical approach that nobody really talks about that we were doing. People are so focused on indicators and methods and systems and the holy grail that they forget about math and probability, the tools that brokers and bankers actually use to drain our accounts. It’s using statistics to measure the market. It’s declaring that the markets are a random stochastic process and using this as our basis for coming up with our own theories and testing them. This is what we got banned for. This thread is not about any system or how accurate anything is so I will not talking about that any further (if you want to know more about that, visit my new home and get your mind blown).
[/QUOTE]

I find it REALLY REALLY hard to believe that anyone is going to feel threatened by a thread that is focusing on quant trading, it is not a ground breaking idea (various methods relying on statistics and probabilities have been around for a long time) and unless you can provide any verified account performance showing thousands of percentages gained, then its fairly safe from my perspective to dismiss this as a possible reason.

Of course we’d love to see you move your contributions to this forum [b] (provided no solicitation to direct members to an offsite group or site where they can be peddled services and subscriptions). [/B]And you may find members willing to contribute their ideas to your work as well.

Where do you get the idea to make such claim? Where in my posts or threads did I [B]EVER[/B] solicit Anybody to join anything or post anything advertising related?
Go through my threads and posts before you make false accusations about somebody. It’s not very nice. You make all the readers think that I may have tried to get users to join some site or try to sell something. Correct yourself, please.

And do you honestly think that I would waste a second of my life trying to prove anything? Why the heck would I do that?? I have nothing to sell, nothing to gain. I only shared out of the goodness of my heart because I saw the results of sharing, by giving I got. For every bit I gave, I was rewarded… call it karma or whatever you want to call it. My knowledge expanded because of what I gave and what I gave was free knowledge. Also, do you honestly think that if I had a system that made 1000% gains that I would actually try to Prove that it works? prove to who?? lol man… you are a funny guy…

Anyways, see exactly what you are doing? Trying to shift this thread and running it off topic. Like i said, [B]STICK TO THE POINT [/B]my friend. Please…

Anyways look man, I am not mad at you. I used to be in the same boat. I used to see members get terminated left and right, members marked as having additional usernames. I used to think that all these users were scammers. Honestly, even gg53 I thought maybe he tried to sell something off of PMs or something. I tried to contact FF to see why they terminated him, no reply. And then this happened after a couple of months, I found myself in the same shoes and the only thing I was guilty of was probably getting people to think in terms of probabilies and applying stochastic processes and mathematics to trading, very simple ideas, not any PhD quant stuff, very simple basic math that anybody can and should do.
These are the facts… You don’t know if I or any of the users that were terminated ever tried to sell something by soliciting for money or whatever. So I get your suspicion. You don’t know me, you don’t know gg53. But seriously, if you go through our past, you will see that we are just two honest people that just shared something that we learned. We even shared totally two different things, they aren’t even related. ur terminations were months apart. And why do you think we would waste our precious time trying to come out to the world and speak up about this? This is because over the past month we learned something about these sites, that’s why! We want to make users aware. About 10+ users that worked on one single idea, completely unrelated, we were all terminated on the same day! This is the FACT. This is the mistake that FF made. This is what made us aware that there is something crazy happening.

If you don’t care or none of your concern, then state facts as they are if you want to say something or simply walk away to another thread. But please speak facts, don’t speak of something that you don’t know and don’t falsely accuse people. It’s not very nice at all. Thank you :slight_smile:

[QUOTE=“saver0;674007”]
Where do you get the idea to make such claim? Where in my posts or threads did I EVER solicit Anybody to join anything or post anything advertising related?
Go through my threads and posts before you make false accusations about somebody. It’s not very nice. You make all the readers think that I may have tried to get users to join some site or try to sell something. Correct yourself, please.

And do you honestly think that I would waste a second of my life trying to prove anything? Why the heck would I do that?? I have nothing to sell, nothing to gain. I only shared out of the goodness of my heart because I saw the results of sharing, by giving I got. For every bit I gave, I was rewarded… call it karma or whatever you want to call it. My knowledge expanded because of what I gave and what I gave was free knowledge. Also, do you honestly think that if I had a system that made 1000% gains that I would actually try to Prove that it works? prove to who?? lol man… you are a funny guy…

Anyways, see exactly what you are doing? Trying to shift this thread and running it off topic. Like i said, STICK TO THE POINT my friend. Please…

Anyways look man, I am not mad at you. I used to be in the same boat. I used to see members get terminated left and right, members marked as having additional usernames. I used to think that all these users were scammers. Honestly, even gg53 I thought maybe he tried to sell something off of PMs or something. I tried to contact FF to see why they terminated him, no reply. And then this happened after a couple of months, I found myself in the same shoes and the only thing I was guilty of was probably getting people to think in terms of probabilies and applying stochastic processes and mathematics to trading, very simple ideas, not any PhD quant stuff, very simple basic math that anybody can and should do.
These are the facts… You don’t know if I or any of the users that were terminated ever tried to sell something by soliciting for money or whatever. So I get your suspicion. You don’t know me, you don’t know gg53. But seriously, if you go through our past, you will see that we are just two honest people that just shared something that we learned. We even shared totally two different things, they aren’t even related. ur terminations were months apart. And why do you think we would waste our precious time trying to come out to the world and speak up about this? This is because over the past month we learned something about these sites, that’s why! We want to make users aware. About 10+ users that worked on one single idea, completely unrelated, we were all terminated on the same day! This is the FACT. This is the mistake that FF made. This is what made us aware that there is something crazy happening.

If you don’t care or none of your concern, then state facts as they are if you want to say something or simply walk away to another thread. But please speak facts, don’t speak of something that you don’t know and don’t falsely accuse people. It’s not very nice at all. Thank you :-)[/QUOTE]

Okay… Now its clear why you were banned. You need an attitude adjustment bud.

Go back and re-read my post as you clearly did not understand it.

Lol…

Or Dont sweat the small stuff?

Hi guys,

have done some research on FF and on the net. Saver is maybe getting a little wound up which is understandable big time.

I figure Saver is talking re Pengiuin which was indeed subject to a denial today.

The way to beat dirty tricks is to play it cool, talk here and on penguin about the trade approach.

This site is the no.1 site for anyone wanting to learn about trading, sure there is advertising, but so also on my favourite TV channel.

Nobody is falsely accusing of anything, just the opposite, but I am kinda curious.

Anyways, I’m glad you guys are coming out fighting, again why not open up a thread here :slight_smile:

[QUOTE=“PipNRoll;674011”]

Lol…

Or Dont sweat the small stuff?[/QUOTE]

Lol that too.