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Old 05-04-2008, 02:38 PM
 

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I am sorry. I have been thru all of the posts in this thread, and I cannot figure out what your GBP/JPY strategy is.
Perhaps I am stupid, I don't know, but I am looking for plain English instuctions.
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Default Hi Rrram2

Glad to have found you again. My thanks to Todd for letting me know. I had a good week with all my orders being filled including my "loss leader" so I am flat at the moment. Its good to have you back on line again. Looking forward to another good week.

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You don't get it apparantly...

Well...maybe I don't get it...and I'll keep working it until I see the light or get busted. My intention is to see the light. I don't expect to get busted. I think it is just a matter of understanding it, not that I think it is suspect...just that I don't fully understand it. I will keep working at that...but I suppose it isn't entirely necessary to understand.

I am assuming now we are working down from present price. Where is the loss leader set? At current market or at 207.20 support? How far down is it best to start setting the buy limit orders? Maybe I missed a post here and that has already been mentioned. I am still a bit fuzzy on where to actually start. Although I am not sure it really matters at this point.

Hope all had a good weekend. wselye...did you read from the beginning? I'm not sure if the strategy has ever been written down as a working strategy...only pieceing together posts from rrram2 to see what he is working with. I think it can be written down rather concisely...I have written it down for myself so I have a clearer understanding of it...and I adjust my written plan as rrram2 gives more insight. It is pretty simple actually.

Looking forward to market open.

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Old 05-04-2008, 06:20 PM
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Default so obviously then at some point

I guess you need to take all your money out and run on profits only so you have no risk. Some people have to do this. I am ok keeping my money in and building equity and profits quicker. And once I withdraw profits in excess of funds deposited into my account then I am even. Getting even is the hardest thing you will ever do. Once you get past even, like many of you now should be, the rest is a lot easier. You have to make some changes to some things you hold in your mind, which could be holding you back.
Drawdown is ok unless you LET it wipe you out. YOu are in control of IT.
It's like your mortgage (drawdown),If you don't make the payments
(interest, maybe principle, taxes, insurance) they are going to foreclose on you. Mismanage your margin and your broker will sell you out (forclose).
underestimating drawndown is a mistake, but if you are keeping your used margin at 1-3% you are safe from a mad run down especially if you are at 400:1 leverage. If you don't have back up money to put in, in an emergency, then you should be extra careful with you level or margin percentage used.

But if it takes going that far to pierce your mind into thinking that it MAY actually be possible regardless of what your ego is humming in your ear.

It doesnt matter where you get in at this point. .25 (FIB) is at 207.23 of the move up from 192.60. It is for sure a pivot point for me and hard support.
so I got one at 207.60 and buying every 20 pips down from 207.49, 207.29 to 206.99. This is conservative, I doubt we will see 204 but if we do I don't want to have too many too high (TMTH). I expect 207.20 to hold and if not then 206.50 and again 204 is possible as bottom support. BUT from there we will be moving up for sure. Look at the monthly, the weekly, we are at point of certain trend reversal to the upside. The time period doesn't matter. You can make it look any way you want by manipulating the charts. WHen multiple charts over several time frames say the same thing, its a good indication of the upcoming movement. And all we have to base this on is history. The charts are history. And history always has a way of repeating itself. And the more things change the more they stay the same. The future is uncertain, all we have is now.

Now is a good time to get long with one and grab a couple more down to 207.
If it falls hard from there maybe every 25 pips or 30 or 40. Get a few more at bottoms. If it falls more get more. Never forget smart margin management. This is key. You've seen quite a few cycles by now
and have to be figuring some things out. Patience is key. Impatience costs you pips. 11-31 pips is ideal but you can take more or less. If I had more margin to manage ATM then I may be getting in deeper & quicker, instead of spacing 20 pips initially and then 25 or 40. I sitill have a 209.63 paying me interest for over a month now.

I'm in it for the long haul. IN the long haul The demand for the pound will always be greater than the demand for the yen. Even if the SDR now has more yen than pound I think. I cannot ever be convinced otherwise.
I have learned the hard way many times about how quickly the yen can turn weak and fall like a rock because it is just NOT very in demand internationally
as compared to other currencies like the pound where the interest rate is high.
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Old 05-04-2008, 06:45 PM
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Default This strategy is VERY risky! (profitable!!!)

Trade with a demo account for several cycles until you understand and/or master the system.

We only go long GJ because of positive interest. We try to get longs as low as we can. We know that everything must return to its origin and certain price levels are like bridges where price will cross BOTH ways at A minimum
at least once. We will return to 251. We will return to 180 too. GJ price travels in cycles (circles) and channels. SMA's at 21 55 89 144 268 and other key Fibinocci numbers as well as Fibinocci retracements and/or extensions provide levels of support and resistance besides the obvious psychological numbers of 204 204.50 205.00 and others like .80 .20 .40 .60
but these smaller numbers more rarely come into play with the beast GJ as its average daily range is generally larger than any other pair..

We but long as price moves down so it looks like we are buying into a losing position, We are ATM and have drawndown (unrealized). We hold them until they yierld a profit. We use NO stop loss orders. When we buy long we set a TP target and when it is hit our trade is automatically sold and pips banked.

We get in with one order at market referred to as our "loss leader".
It really doesn't matter where we get this order price wise, but we oBVIOUSLY
if we are going LONG we dont want to buy long at resistance! or at the top of a long bull run up, that has STALLED. From this loss leader we get long every 10 pips down. So loss leader at 207.60. But normally we buy on the 9's and sell on the 0's but any number will do. This is more for tracking.
Now depending on market and range and momentum and volumne and all that we analyze some charts and decide we only have so much margin so we are going to go every 20 pips down, or start getting long after a 50 pip move down.

Key with this system is smart margin management where you use 1-3% of your margin. Using any more than this exponentially increases your risk in a large move down. The idea is NOT to get sold out after running out of margin.
This will work but you cannot get too greedy or too impatient. You are always scalping in range for 11 pips or so and always selling longs when they hit TP targets. All orders are set 100% with TP targets and NO STOP LOSSES> So yield is 100% profit on all trades. YOu have to understand the sometimes severe drawdown and master smart margin management.
YOU MUST have a broker that doesn't stick you with FIFO.
monthly interest on margin used to hold trades open is about 30% a month.
Some brokers pay this as interest and some pay it by lowering your averaged trade amount (by lowering your effective price on all your trades at rollover).
So if you hold GJ at say forex.com every day at rollever say you got long at 204.00 today, after 5 when it rolls over you will be long at 203.97 or something, so for one week of rollovers you go down quite a bit and KEEP going down as long as you hold the trade. Eventually the pound will come back. Its LT trend, historic LT trend is UP, LAtely it has been down.
BUT down has turned around recently and I thinkw e have moved quite a bit up from 192.60.

Its pretty simple. If you have any specific questions ask them.
Get a demo account and start trying stuff.


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I am sorry. I have been thru all of the posts in this thread, and I cannot figure out what your GBP/JPY strategy is.
Perhaps I am stupid, I don't know, but I am looking for plain English instuctions.
Thank you
Anewbie
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Old 05-04-2008, 06:53 PM
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Glad to have found you again. My thanks to Todd for letting me know. I had a good week with all my orders being filled including my "loss leader" so I am flat at the moment. Its good to have you back on line again. Looking forward to another good week.

Grader
I'm long again with a new loss leader at 207.75.
I sold my 207.60 for a few pips or something.
I am buying at .59 .49 .29 206.99 and wider spaced down from there.
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Old 05-04-2008, 07:32 PM
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I'm in with a loss leader at 207.84. Buy limit in at 207.79. Have pending orders at .69 .59 .49 then spaced out a bit further with wider TPs after that down to 206. Will wait to see what happens to go further. We are seeing the support at 207.20. Will place more orders if it breaks that support and heads to 204.

Thanks rrram2 for your further insights and explanations.

Off to the races...!!
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Old 05-04-2008, 08:01 PM
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Default more fibs

I use .268 as well even though it is not perhaps widely accepted

.268 is 208.29 (going to be resistance)
.250 is 207.23 (support)

If it stays in this 100 pip range, we can make a fortune scalping them 11-31 pips a pop. There is no risk if it breaks to the top side (sad if you arent long already). IF it does break down below 207.20 then 206.50 is pretty likely.
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Old 05-04-2008, 08:53 PM
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Default 50 pips or more scalping up

No draw down in scalping up but I hate getting in long higher and higher for some reason. Still holding above 208.00. I only have that one long @ 209.63

I guess I am buying at 208.09 207.99 207.89 if it gets that low
otherwsie I'll hold onto my old long waiting for 209.75
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Old 05-04-2008, 09:15 PM
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Default Too funny

I saw M at scalpers saying short friday afternoon.
trouble ishe wants to get short at like 206.90.

I sure would like to get long there! The theory is getting 2/3's of the move.
I am sorry I just never really bought into that idea. If I am looking to get long.
I think it is going up and price is 208.00. I don't wait until it hits 208.30 or 208.60 first to make sure it is going up. I trade. I don't wait for trades. I do wait for price to come to me after I am in with a loss leader at market.
I will even scalp at market up and down. But I prefer to get in with one loss leader and place my orders and go away. Like I always say often I make my best profits while I am sleeping.

I don't guess his order is going to get filled down there. It will be unusual at this point for GJ to fall below 207.00 before it blows through 209.00 and tests 210.00.

208.00 is holding. I am sitting with 3 209.63 (OLD) 208.15, 208.09.

BUYING long at 207.99 and down every 10 for a figure. Tight TP's at 11 and 21 and a few 31's. I am expecting tight range overnight of my previous 100 pip range 207.20ish 208.20ish.
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