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Old 07-28-2008, 04:09 PM
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Default The bears are building strength!

That is why she has a hummer limo. And unfortunately the bears are multiplying and will be run over by her here soon.

I read an article talking about the ever increasing number of bears in the market today vs yesterday and the day before that especially related to equities. Maybe Andrew can help here. There sure is a strong correlation between GJ and some equities there has to be.

Housing prices may not have bottomoed out yet but they will soon and now isnt a bad time to buy, BEFORE rates go nuts heading into thanksgiving which should make for a real slow start next year.

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Fine. But she will never date you again and her limo will speed right past you without stopping.

*I* plan on a shopping spree with her in Toronto, you can bet she will want me on the limo
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Default A wedge ?

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We will get dips down,
but she is going to keep moving up. I won't suggest that by a certain date we will hit 220 or 225. But I will tell you one thing, WHEN we DO. I will NOT be short She can surely make new all time highs despite what the illusion is telling you.
I'm afraid I've become disillusioned by her wild character and lack of respect of the lines, candles and other super tech bits and bobs
Anyway I will be trying to hook even her bumper
Looking at the long term picture:
guppie.jpg
It looks like ascending wedge with a tip around 220.00 -just bigger picture which MAY represent bull ride is getting weaker.
I know the upper resistance zone can be broken and she can stop at the Arctic pole, this could be the other set up. Meanwhile I will be trying to catch her bus and ride wherever she wants to go.
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Old 07-28-2008, 04:46 PM
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Default Trading disclosure

Trading is inherently very risky those that trade trade at their own risk.
DO not take my advice and expect to make a profit, my trading stylemay not suit you, and/or the emotional drawdown that goes with unrealized losses may not sit well with your ego.

Everything I say as related to trading forex is a matter of fact ONLY as it relates to my account or my trades. All references I make to forex and my account are related to live accounts with balances held in genuine USD at FXSOL.

Just because I do NOT use stop loss orders don't transform that into your ability to trade successfully without stop loss orders. You know jhow I feel about stop loss orders. And some people MAY need them. But it all comes down to account management, the more of a percentage of your total available margin you use, the riskier you are trading.

Always have 3 valid reasons to get in a trade. And always think through what you are doing and be sure in your logical mind, do not allow your emotions to overrun your mind. I do not know of any really emotional traders whose natural emotion is able to zero in on predicting price movements. This may or may not even be possible to be that intimate with guppy. In the end she is just fish! And sometimes very smelly.

I accept no liability for anyone strading misfortunes as a result of following me. Trade at your own risk. But be careful as once you really learn this method the light will go on for you and you could easily make thousands of pips month in and month out. Some here are living proof. And they don't need to post their results from their live accounts as proof. And I here we will assume you are talking about a live account unless you say demo account.

I dont want there to be any confusion. I don't want anyone to lose money.
And I always call it like I see it. Like this morning when I changed views and I saw guppy was really going to head north from 214.00. She is really consolidating now but I expect a momentum breakout to the top before the week is over possibly blowing past 216 and spiking to the next fib level.
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Old 07-28-2008, 04:52 PM
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Default Well I have been looking at that wedge for a while.

She doesn't seem to be running out of steam though.
I think the retrace downs are continually not as far and she is going up way more than down. Once she gets to 220 I think she is going to have such momentum LT going on it is going to be hard to stop her.
The force required to drive her down is HUGE. THis is like trying to hold down the Great Crocodile, easier said than done.

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I'm afraid I've become disillusioned by her wild character and lack of respect of the lines, candles and other super tech bits and bobs
Anyway I will be trying to hook even her bumper
Looking at the long term picture:
Attachment 4611
It looks like ascending wedge with a tip around 220.00 -just bigger picture which MAY represent bull ride is getting weaker.
I know the upper resistance zone can be broken and she can stop at the Arctic pole, this could be the other set up. Meanwhile I will be trying to catch her bus and ride wherever she wants to go.
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Old 07-28-2008, 04:57 PM
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Smile Tannin here is the great Crocodile...in the quiet river? :)

...Thus says the Lord God: Behold, I am against you, Pharaoh king of Egypt, the great tannin crouching in the river, which has said, My river is my own, and I have made it for myself. But I will put hooks in your jaws, and I will cause the fish of your streams to stick to your scales, and I will bring you up from the midst of your streams, and all the fish of your streams shall stick to your scales. (Ezekiel 29:3-5)
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we talked about it here alot 144
144
55+89=144 Right?
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I blame it on 4Xstar. It was a copy and paste job.

Ok... Ok... I will take the blame.

Yes I know you have talked about it before. That is what originally got my attention. Today my attention was revised.
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Always have 3 valid reasons to get in a trade.
I found my three...

1: Bill collectors need to get paid. I need to make money.

2: I need to bag my first 10 mil by this time next year. If I am going to be rich, I will need money. Duhhhh....

3: There's nothing on TV. Mind as well go click the buttons on the MT4
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Old 07-28-2008, 07:21 PM
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Default stagnatting...not much pipping going on here

Bottom is the old 100% @ 213.79
top seems to be 214.85ish so a 100 pip range.
But its getting even tighter than that look at how constricted the bollinger bands are. They only contrict so long before there is a breakout.
dont expect that in Asia. See you in London.
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Bottom is the old 100% @ 213.79
top seems to be 214.85ish so a 100 pip range.
But its getting even tighter than that look at how constricted the bollinger bands are. They only contrict so long before there is a breakout.
dont expect that in Asia. See you in London.
"Slumming in the ole UK"

Your statement made that pop in my head to the Beach Boys melody of "Surfing in the USA".

Yeah it's stupid, but Asia is.... ssshhhhhhhh sleeeepinnnng.
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Old 07-28-2008, 10:14 PM
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My big question is, how do you know where to draw these fibs, especially the fans? I always learned from last sw to last sl .. but you are not doing that .. the top on July 21 0600 was not the high, that came later on the 23rd.
I had a fan fib drawn from the low of the 25th to the high of the 25th, which was the last sh/sl, but obviously not the right place to draw it.
I had the regular fib drawn correctly as you mentioned above and in fact price stopped at exactly the intersection of the 50 retracement of the regular fib with the 61.8 of the fan fib. She does seem to respect her fibs so this is a valuable tool.
But .. how do you know exactly where to draw them? Or do you just develop a "feel"?
Drawing any line study is like placing a stop (which is a line study on its own - or it ought to be): part of it is rational ("above resistance", "below support", "below a round number n" etc.) while the other part is intuitive. As we know the "intuitive" part is more difficult because it takes time and effort to cultivate.

The same goes here. The first thing to mention is that I "telescope" fib fans. Yes, fib fans are fractal, and that is important and related, but not exactly what I mean. By telescope, I mean the layering of fans from different time scales (not TFs, necessarily) to reach a historic layout of S&R for the pair.

To begin, go to the widest TF you look at: I glance at monthly and weekly, but usually am to deep in the weeds to give those more than a passing glance and a knowing nod. The first I consider is the daily. Draw as you normally would: depending on direction, swing low to high or vice-versa, generally excluding the latest of these.

Within that fib fan, I will pick a secondary swing low/swing high, typically (not always) with the latter point coinciding with the latter point of the larger fan. This smaller fan takes in a more recent fraction of the data series from the context of the wider fan, in effect zooming in more closely to look at price with a higher degree of granularity.

This can vary from time to time, pair to pair. The largest fan is easy: what comes after is situational. If the larger fan was from swing high to low but the market has more recently recovered from that low, but then corrected a bit (in other words, a general V 1-2-3 pattern has completed). The larger fan will give insight on that recovery because it slants down, but where will price go from end of the V? Here you draw from the middle of the V to the top. The result will create a lattice pattern.

So you've constructed two large fans, but you trade swing or intraday: your lattice points are few and far between. Repeat the process, zooming incrementally. I move from 1D to 3H. Here is where most of the fans emerge. The data series is more timely, and produces more immediate price S&R levels; helpful, but not as enduring: price quickly move through or off of these lines, pushing them quickly back into the annals of the pair.

Here is where things become interesting: swing lows and highs on the 3H, unless we're in a tight range, are often invalidated. Lattices are drawn more often with more frequent oscillations in price as price action becomes noisier. The point to catch, though, is that they are swings lows and swing highs: significant levels of engagement for opposing market forces. That means old fan lines generated by old levels (this explains the fan line I referred to in my previous post) remain relevant off into the future. Like old trendlines (again, we're talking S&R), these old drawings have a tendency to crop up again and again as price abides by them - it pays to be vigilant over what bounds price has respected. You know when they become invalidated: they move out of the scope of the chart, or your lines become too numerous, at which point the zoomed-in fans drawn earliest are first to go.

As you might guess, the larger latticework created is very infrequently rendered invalid because they are overarching, macro levels. Do I ever go to 1H to draw? Not much: only to zoom in further to monitor S&R. I never draw on anything lower than 1H; but for long daytrades/swing trades are normal, so 30M on down has very little relevance.

Along with these, speed lines are very helpful: if your charting package doesn't offer them, no doubt there's an MT4 indicator to produce them. Generally these lines measure 1/2, 1/2 and 2/3 of the swing high to swing low, and fit betwixt the fib fan lines. the construction of speed lines is performed by creating a right angle using the two points in the swing low-high/high-low and then measuring out these critical points. This study is all but unknown, but is a very, very useful adjunct to both fib fan and retracement drawings.

More to say, but I'll let it go at that general description. Let me know what questions you have, if any!

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