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Old 07-18-2007, 05:32 PM
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Thumbs up Trading Idea: Carry Trading profitable with Oanda

Hello traders,

This is not a trading system, but it is a flexible idea which depends on Carry trading with Oanda.

We certainly know that we can earn interest by buying high-yielding currencies vs. low-yielding currencies. Example of this is GBPJPY, USDJPY, AUDJPY, etc.

Oanda features a decent interest-payment pair which is EUR/TRY
We short the EURO and long the Turkish Lira.

This is a simple and profitable idea, think of it...Let us begin


Here is a formula of how you can make profit with simple carry trading the TRY versus EUR.

Short 1300 units in Oanda, pip cost=10cents, margin used=70USD
interest paid daily for this position is $0.60 approx. this is a high return!!

Now what If the pair started to ride against us big time??
Good point. First we have to agree about few things

[1] What goes up, goes down. and there is always a retracement within a trend, or more than one retracement.

[2] from past EURTRY highs we can know it's higher range, lower range. and not panic!

[3] starting very small lots and give room for our position that we never lose our money, even be able to add to our shorts in a smart point.

Say: the pair traded 1000 pips against you.. while you gain 0.60 USD per day.. 1000 is quite high range and would take long time to achieve .

1000 pips x 10cents a pip = 10000cents = $100USD. It does not really affect regular accounts with 5K minimum for example.

We won't just leave it forever, no. We can pick shorting orders from tops or what is called "overbought" areas, picking some retracements after a very strong move can be useful. I tell you it won't shoot up 10,000 PIPs in straight line.

I started this thread and I will put real time data, how I am going to dead with EUR/TRY as an interest backup for my account. This interest can be a Hedge against any occuring losses in the future.
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Old 07-18-2007, 05:37 PM
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Today I shorted 3200 units of EURTRY in Oanda. pip value = $0.25
This should give a return of $1.50 daily. the whole order cost me $176.
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Old 07-18-2007, 11:33 PM
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I don't understand, is this profitable...
i heard about this but don't get it..

can you explain or point me to a website



sorry need knowlege
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Old 07-19-2007, 05:13 AM
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That is a nice idea, the long time trend is clearly going down
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Old 07-19-2007, 07:12 AM
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Good! although we can avoid any loss with a flexible money management and lot sizes, it really looks like it's trending down in the long run.

So we can earn huge interest + pips too.

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That is a nice idea, the long time trend is clearly going down
Could you please add some more moving averages? It looks a little bare....
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Old 07-20-2007, 12:10 PM
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EUR/TRY just had a nice spike upwards, i entered and shortened it at top. do you think its a good idea to let the trade run over the weekend? i never did that before. well its a carry trade, i should let it run right?
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Old 07-20-2007, 12:36 PM
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Hello,

Certainly, the purpose of carry trading is to leave trade open always. I guess you are with Oanda.

Second thing, start always with very small lot size, because we might need to short as it spikes higher, it's trading in the lower range right now.

Say you could add to shorts every 500 or 1000 pips according to your choice.

Its range from Mar to Jul is 1.7400 - 1.9000 so we are trading in the lowest area now.

Personally I will add to longs at 1.8000, 8500, 9000, etc.
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But i dont expect it to go higher any time soon, coz it didnt hit the 2nd Bollinger Band yet. i actually expect it to go further down until a candle hits 2nd bollinger band. maybe i am wrong though
i am waiting for something like the 3 circles in the pic
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Old 07-20-2007, 05:59 PM
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I think the technical picture does not matter a lot with me especially with such interest payment. There is no danger, and I am leaving it into weekend.

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