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Old 10-12-2007, 04:03 PM
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Default Dpaterso :)) I hope you r not insulted. Very kind of you to answer...

It is not much to explain.

I would have to zip it to make a bigger picture. dont have a Zip at the moment. So If you still wont understand I will do it for you.

So you see numbers in that chart. These are the end of the whole price number which is 2.3535 ( I wrote in just 3535). This is a closing price of the candle. I hope you understand this one. I also have some problems with english so try to understand me.

So this is how it goes. It goes with the flow.

1. trade: par SAR is under the price line. So you buy at the first par SAR dot. at 3533. Than you wait until the par SAR appears on the upper side of price line. That would be at 3642. That means that now you sell. It would make you 3642-3533=109 pips. So now you have sold the first trade.

2. trade: At the same price you sold at the first trade, now you will enter short and you will stay in the trade as long as par SAR is above the price line. When the next par SAR candel under price line appears you will buy back. This time you lost 20 pips. (3642 - 3662 = -20). At the same time you will buy at the same price for next trade...

Huh if you still dont understand tell me I would be glad to make it clear. This CHART is from the end of Avgust until today...

Sorry for all of mess I say...I will tell you anything you dont understand.

Ty

AK

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Old 10-12-2007, 04:08 PM
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Hello again,

(Where are you from by the way)?

Anyway - are you saying this:

When the first Parabolic SAR dot appears under a bar you buy and then when the next Parabolic SAR dot appears above a bar you sell?

Is that what you're saying?

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Dale.
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Old 10-12-2007, 04:13 PM
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Yes Sir, that is what I am saying. I am from Slovenia, EU (former Yugoslavia).

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Old 10-12-2007, 04:19 PM
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...and I do know that this 'ongoing saga' has benefited more than one person by allowing them to see - for real - what trading for a living can be like i.e. it's not 'get rich quick' and it CAN destroy you if you're not careful. It's one thing reading about 'trading psychology' from a book - it's another getting it 'out of the horses mouth'.
by following this thread, i have learned much of my mistakes. i do benefit from this thread alot. so thanks alot Dale, and sorry for your loss, but i think we all had a bad week. i am now getting analysis-paralysis to find out what the heck went wrong and how to avoid it next week, maybe i come up with a better plan. its friday evening, we have 2 days to figure out something before its monday again for the next battle

btw, i was searching google for trend vs range, and found something interesting
Trading Trend Or Range?

after reading that, maybe we should try trading ranges using the psar on lower timeframes?
thats what i am going to do next week, lets see how this turns out, i hope i can post some good results, will keep you all informed
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It is not much to explain.

I would have to zip it to make a bigger picture. dont have a Zip at the moment. So If you still wont understand I will do it for you.

So you see numbers in that chart. These are the end of the whole price number which is 2.3535 ( I wrote in just 3535). This is a closing price of the candle. I hope you understand this one. I also have some problems with english so try to understand me.

So this is how it goes. It goes with the flow.

1. trade: par SAR is under the price line. So you buy at the first par SAR dot. at 3533. Than you wait until the par SAR appears on the upper side of price line. That would be at 3642. That means that now you sell. It would make you 3642-3533=109 pips. So now you have sold the first trade.

2. trade: At the same price you sold at the first trade, now you will enter short and you will stay in the trade as long as par SAR is above the price line. When the next par SAR candel under price line appears you will buy back. This time you lost 20 pips. (3642 - 3662 = -20). At the same time you will buy at the same price for next trade...

Huh if you still dont understand tell me I would be glad to make it clear. This CHART is from the end of Avgust until today...

Sorry for all of mess I say...I will tell you anything you dont understand.

Ty

AK
Ak

how r u. and welcome in this thread.i am sorry to find difficulties in knowing the system u r following but u know can u attach some drwaing for us to know more about your system?? if u can attach it can u send me through my email and i will hlp u on attaching them here so all of your friends here will know what u r talking about?

My email is akmohsen@hotmail.com

thanks

Akram
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Old 10-12-2007, 04:27 PM
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OK - well - AK - nice to 'meet' you - I don't know anybody from Slovenia - although I do take a keen interest in anything that happens in the Baltic Region and Russia (and Finland of course).

I'm not quite sure what to say about you're discovery though. I'm really not sure what to say. Maybe someone else on the thread can comment.

CharlesLioe, thanks for the post - I'm going to have a look at that link now and if I have anything constructive to add I'll post.

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Hello again,

(Where are you from by the way)?

Anyway - are you saying this:

When the first Parabolic SAR dot appears under a bar you buy and then when the next Parabolic SAR dot appears above a bar you sell?

Is that what you're saying?

Regards,

Dale.
Hello AK,

sorry i asked u about the system you r following and i figured about u just answered my question is this is your rules for entry and exit to take any postion so i just wanted to tell u that this is what we r following since Dale started this thread and it works when the market is trnding like going up as a direction or walk down as a direction but it never wroked while the market goes in ranging like walking ups and downs.

Which we all find it a loss postion when we follow the PSAR blindly all what we need is that we need to know in advance wheather the market is trending or ranging as if it is trending then we will follow it blindly and we will open those postions till we get stoped but if we know from before that this is a ranging market then all what we will do is that we will go fishing or doing any other usefull things apart from lossing money!!!

By the way Dale PSAR is working trust it follow it and give it a try.

Regards,

Akram
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Old 10-12-2007, 04:33 PM
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By the way friends,

Did you know that this thread has been going since 27 July 2007 and we (now) have 117 pages and 1 169 messages and 28 920 views!!!

Man - time flies while you're feeding the brokers!!!

Isn't there a prize for these statistics??? Like about $17K USD (actually make that GBP)!!!

You know - the best part of it all - I'm still sitting here smiling !!! (I need psychiatric help I think)!!!

Thanks everyone!!!

Regards,

Dale.

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Old 10-12-2007, 04:36 PM
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By the way Akram - thanks for taking the lead on that one my friend - I was speechless for a while there.

Dale.
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Hello again,

(Where are you from by the way)?

Anyway - are you saying this:

When the first Parabolic SAR dot appears under a bar you buy and then when the next Parabolic SAR dot appears above a bar you sell?

Is that what you're saying?

Regards,

Dale.
Hello AK,

sorry i asked u about the system you r following and i figured out u just answered my question is this is your rules for entry and exit to take any postion so i just wanted to tell u that this is what we r following since Dale started this thread and it works when the market is trending like going up as a direction or walk down as a direction but it never wroked while the market goes in ranging like walking ups and downs.

Which we all find it a loss postions when we follow the PSAR blindly all what we need is that we need to know in advance wheather the market is trending or ranging as if it is trending then we will follow it blindly and we will open those postions till we get stoped but if we know from before that this is a ranging market then all what we will do is that we will go fishing or doing any other usefull things apart from lossing money!!!

By the way Dale PSAR is working trust it follow it and give it a try.

Regards,

Akram
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