I call BS, if you have been in the market for the past 10 years, then how come you got no money? You should be minted by now… unless you can’t trade
I don’t even know why I read this thread this far but I have two points:
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This man is a scammer who waits proper dumb people to “invest” via privat messages to his system and then his going to vanish with the money.
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If the point 1 isn’t true, this is some kind of martingale system and he is thinging that “only if the starting money is big enough…”
We all no how that ends 
There are too many “too good to be true” points in this case. Don’t fall in this folks.
Just finished skimming, we call this thread “great craic”, meaning it should be filed under ‘Entertainment’.
Or should it? it does have a value, it personifies what can often happen the many good people who are attracted to the business of trading.
They view themselves as knowing less and then latch onto someone whom they perceive to know more, then soon the credit card is produced.
To those that think they know less and need to pay to know more - learn it here for free, to the OP, mission accomplished.
Someone who’s waited 10 years for this moment and can’t stand waiting for another year is quite… interesting.
The statistical fact is that if this system was seriously 83% accurate with a 1:1 R:R, you could bump risk up no problem. Get 10k, and with 5% per trade you’re looking at 500k return in a year on one pair. 10% per trade, 20% per trade and you’re looking at anything from 500k to 2 million in a year. in 2 years you’re basically guaranteed to be as rich as you could ever want to be.
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If you truly found the holy grail system, firstly it would not be difficult to find investors.
Then there is the fact especially for people like me as I am from South Africa and for me $50 is quite alot especially with the ZAR dropping as much as it is doing…
So there for I found a broker and the smallest deposit you can put in is $5, so this helps me, Every now and again when I have some cash I try and put some in my account to build my capital bit bigger.
So I can not understand why you do not just do this and make your money this way, and keep earning.
Oke guys, here pipship …
[B]I’m solliciting for investors… (sorry)[/B]
Well, first of all, I… I am writing updates at my thread of course to show the possible use of a signalprovider.
And… yes… I’m soliciting for investors myself as a signalprovider. http://forums.babypips.com/free-forex-trading-systems/55673-2-year-backtest-eurusd-300-pips-month.html
[B]700% a year is nothing special…[/B]
It’s equal to the system I’m using.
This is no nonsense.
[B]A pro is able to make 20% a month = 700% a year.[/B]
A pro is able to make 20% a month. Most of the pro’s do use backtested technical analysis systems like I do.
It’s a billion dollar market. Best pro’s only work for large investment funds. Not for stupid newbie retail traders.
They do not have the capital needed.
Lets come back at the 700% rate.
When you are trading with a robot you have to use trade protection. His system works with 100 pips down, 100 winn each month.
My system works with 300 pips down, 300 pips month trading at all major pairs. So same performance risk ratio.
Yesterday I calculated 750% year. I named YES I named 700% in my message to followers (real live money invested)
Exactly like ‘the holy grail’ of this thread. Well, it’s not the holy grail. It’s about the max you are able to win and trade. Making trades (having trades in the market) do cost a certain time. You are able to make (120 strategies I wrote with my team the previous 5 years, I’m not a rookie…) 1:1 is max.
When using trade protection at max 300 pips DD (or 100 pips DD)
You are able to size up your lots amount every month… (if earned 100 pips, you are able to invest more next month because you ‘neutralised’ risk)
So you are using this percentages:
First month you make 6% (6% = max risk)
Second month you doubling the amount of lots making 12% (still max 6% loss because you gained 6%)
Now you are able to trade with the final amount of lots making 20% each month. (still max 6% risk …)
Well… 6% + 12% + 20% ^10 = 750%. Only thing we forget is that once a year we hit the max DD of our strategy. Then we do lose about 20%. So whats left is about 700%.
[B]How to get money…?[/B]
Of course I did ask myself the same question one year ago as founder and owner of PipShip. You are able to use private money but then you have to be a licensed investment firm. (when you are trying to set up this legally) This will cost you 1400 euro’s as a company in the Netherlands (registration AFM, netherlands control agency financial markets) and 200 euro’s for each employee. You have to register as a company (700 euro’s) and you have to set up garantee capital funds. (50.000 euro’s minimal) When you are going bankrupt, your investors are still able to suck out their money. Then you have to register a brand or logo and you have to search for a broker. (I’m using SAXOBANK as PIPSHIP INC.) SAXOBANK is the little dog of the large company Barclays.
We as PIPSHIP inc. hope to earn the following year(s) 60.000 euro start capital and 20.000 euro’s back for the investments already made. Then we are able to use private funding and institutional funding. So here is your answer. (banks do have their own specialists)
[B]Two possibilities:[/B]
[I]Use ZULUTRADE as signalprovider[/I], earn commisions on a low rate of just 5-10% of profit made by customers.
(or currensee whatever)
[I]Use private funding[/I] as hedgefund or managed forex accounts service (PIPSHIP ELITE)
Trading businesses do use a minimum threshold of $10.000. Otherwise you are getting a lot of stupid not knowing anything, annoying clients. We will also use this threshold next year hopefully. 
Then you are introducing broker as signal provider.
You are able to ask for a deposit fee of 1% capital, managing fee of 1-2% year on capital and performance fee (20% on profit) [I]Institutional funders first want to see at least 1-2 years LIVE data.[/I]
Because traditional funds do make about 10%-20% a year, this new market is rapidly growing (it will do coming years, yes you have to be fast enough…already more than 50% of all orders are executed fully automated, trading by hand = price action = history = please close that thread, it’s making me sick) We are doing 10-20% each month. So we are able to ask a performance fee at a montly base. … (nothing to explaine further I think… and I’m still a little guy right… don’t blame me, forex … I just hate that stupid game (will post some video’s underneath made by a netherlands TV crew)
[B]Additional possibility:[/B]
You are also able to become broker yourself, this is a bit costly because of large garantee funds and you have to set up a law department to deal with legal responsibility etc. You have to set up a customer service, you have to do all the bookkeeping of accounts. Therefore we like to lower our responsibility for trade execution etc, bookkeeping, controlling the accounts of investors, online portal for mt4 and automatic risk protection and scaling up the amount of lots are services being done by SAXOBANK. Then we earn a bit less.
Some interesting video’s I think. (espacially for all people not believing 700%… stupids)
awesome videooooooo ;)way you go pipsship!! may your day be full of tons of pips!
I doubt you have holy grail per se… anyways if you have holy grail… you can start with your own $10000 dollars.
Typical holy grails make alteast 100% per month.
so… with $10000 - - - in 6 months you have over $1million dollars.
I say this coz this is what i have done…i have never asked anyone for money…
In as much as my system is almost holy grail…i do mess at times.
another point…make sure the indicator you are using is not MTF…(multitimeframe)… MTF indicators give the illusion of being holy grails during back test. There are plently of youtube videos full of MTF holy grails that fail on forward test…Holy Grail on BackTest , Holy **** on Forward Test.
Against test your own $1000 …if you have holy grail you do not need anyone… lock yourself up trade and enjoy the life you want…dnt waste your time in such forums.
Not necessarily, unless you’re doing some sort of triangular arb or something of that sort
Anyway, whatever man… Honestly, I think you just felt the ‘ego’ urge to ‘put it out there’ ( i.e, brag ), that’s why you posted.
If I had a system/method that was a holy grail, finding funds would be the LEAST of my problems!
You’re trying to hit the ball out the ballpark (starting with $100,000) when a home-run would do (starting with your own $10,000). And then you say 50k with 750% annual return is tight, just enough to make a living (??) I donno what gold-plated street you live on ( or want to live on ) but in other circles, that is called greed :32: …
If you’ve ever raced, you’d know that trying to get ahead of the other racers as the sole objective ( instead of concentrating on driving well ) will only get you crashed. Come back to earth man, you haven’t even traded it live yet to CONFIRM it is a grail!
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vipi fundi watoka kenya? trading ikoaje?
huyu jamaa ni panganga tu…hana holygrail…lol…
sema supuu! kabisa!, kabisa!
trading iko poa!, lakini yako inasound kali zaidi :)!
huu jamaa ni jokes kusema ukweli!, imagine mazee vile maboyz wange-hustle wakijua ni kitu ya kishua!
hehe! wacha tu
Pipship, what’s the plan for this week’s trading? How are you going to approach the markets?
What makes your system so amazing then?
Are you also one that tells of holy grails? The ones other folk have never seen or heard of?
I think he has in mind the contribution that zulutrade does to the trading and the followers experience. Afterall it is not about the simple trading you are in the business of selling your signal to be copied and imo, frankly speaking zulutrade is the best place out there to do that!
I am sitting on a chaIR HOW CAn I get up? so I guess dude has moved on out to a better hood?
I know this is a bit late but by now if your system was any good Im guessing you would of already made your million.
If you are still looking for funding and are so sure on your system maybe borrow the money from the bank. sell your car re-finance your house ect…
secondly if its a full proof system you would not need to ask any advice on here?