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Old 01-19-2008, 06:42 PM
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Thanks for the posts guys,
Post #520 Tonymand made a lot of sense to me.I have been going back on this thred for the past couple days rereading and studying.There really is a lot of valuable information on this.This is where every trader really needs to start.Instead of geting lured into these so called systems and internet trash.I don't have much to say I guess so keep up the good work!!!
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Old 01-21-2008, 12:52 AM
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So this EY thing is still going how best to approach it now if you are not in a trade? You can see from the daily that there is some support in this area going back to 06 so a bounce is possible. The trouble is how do you tell the difference between a true bounce or some kind of fakeout. You wouldnt want to go immediately short since this has not paused for breath since the start of the NY session on friday. Worth remembering also its a holiday in US so trading volumes may be down later today and T & J have warned us that some of the big boys have stepped aside with the volatility (take a look at the last 2 daily candles on this pair)

My plan is to look for a 78.6 retracement and play the same strat I did on friday. Remember though that such a deep retracement occurs perhaps 2-3 times a week on this pair on this timeframe (H1). I will watch closely any retrace less than 78.6. If it came back to a clear resistance (say break below the current level and then retrace to test the breakout) or if I had some other significant event, perhaps double top and divergence then again we would be on. In each case these are the setups and entry will be based on an action trigger that I am familiar with. A period of tight consolidation is also worthy of consideration (again trading the pullback after the break lower rather than risk getting caught in the fakeout. Of course if there is a fakeout with a convincing reversal candle - say a hammer - then the long is on)

So, I have a plan in advance. I am currently only looking for a short at the best price I can get. Action triggers like inside bars are of no interest to me unless we are at one of these key levels of interest. I do not have to sit at the computer all day but check it occasionally. With similar analysis on GU and GY I would expect some sort of trading opportunity in the next 24-48hrs. Most of all there is no stress

Obviously this analysis is continually updated. If we were to get a triple bottom with divergence at this or another proven area of action then suddenly I would be interested in a long possibility

Does this all make sense? It is just my way of trading so I am not saying this is the only way by any means. All I am doing is looking at price action and what it has done in the past and therefore will possibly do in the future. I have no need for an indicator although I do find the stoch with the IB of use (although since its lagging I dont necessarily hang my hat on that part). If we sail on through this level and get a retracement that doesnt touch it we know that it is not currently active - so be it. Like a bus or train there will be another one along soon

My trigger finger used to itch at the start of the week but old age appears to be doing its part in calming me down.

I will try and keep my thoughts updated on this pair during the week in real time. Most of all what I am hoping to show is that you can be wrong a lot of the time (indeed it is inevitable) yet still come out on top if your plan is watertight
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Old 01-21-2008, 07:36 AM
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Could you argue that this was a sufficient break and retest of the breakout. In retrospect yes of course! In real time I did not. So I am sat on the sidelines in frustration. Always so tempting to chase it and anytime in the last few hours would have worked. However discipline is the name of the game. I assume this is the reaction to the meltdown in the ASX and FTSE today. The only apparent opportunities here are extremely high risk since we have no real retraces to get in on (although I was tempted on GY which had a better one).
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Hi Tony,
Thanks for your excellent contribution. I happened to have jumped on the bandwagon as that 155.70 area was tested early in the Asian session. It seemed to me on the 15 min (as you have posted) that it was retested a number of times without closing above it. To me it seemed low risk as the sl was close by at the 61.8% (.87) and the profit potential at 155 was worth 70 pips or so. I closed 3/4 at 155, and took the rest down to my next support line at c154 (line weekly chart). Just wondering with that type of profit potential and low risk sl why you did not get on? I truly value your opinion, and i wanted to hear how you had interpreted what i thought seemed like a low risk opportunity?
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Old 01-21-2008, 09:05 AM
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Hi Tony,
Thanks for your excellent contribution. I happened to have jumped on the bandwagon as that 155.70 area was tested early in the Asian session. It seemed to me on the 15 min (as you have posted) that it was retested a number of times without closing above it. To me it seemed low risk as the sl was close by at the 61.8% (.87) and the profit potential at 155 was worth 70 pips or so. I closed 3/4 at 155, and took the rest down to my next support line at c154 (line weekly chart). Just wondering with that type of profit potential and low risk sl why you did not get on? I truly value your opinion, and i wanted to hear how you had interpreted what i thought seemed like a low risk opportunity?
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To me it just didnt quite meet what I was looking for. It drifted through with no obvious follow through. If it had gone lower and come back I would have been much happier. I also said a consolidation would do and of course it broke down again and retested but again the fall was lacklustre so I left it alone.

Sounds like you had a real tight plan for getting in so well done. For you this was low risk as you assessed it and backing that judgement is what it is all about. Good to hear that you had a solid take profit plan as well, excellent. Hopefully my time will come later in the week
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Hello everyone,
I am still sitting back and not trading as of now.I am studying price action a little more,I found an e-book about W.D Gann. and how he traded fibs and all the good stuff.(Price action basically no indicators).I am seeing the EUR/JYP reaching a yearly low.It seems it has got to this level one other time in the middle of August.What is your guys outlook on this pair?Take care all of you,Happy trading
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Old 01-22-2008, 12:57 AM
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Short position re-established. The ASX is down 6% at the moment, DOW futures look horrible and its not difficult to see what will happen after a 3 day break tonight. The outside bars are a sufficient invitation as the stoch turns down from inside the 78.6 area.
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Old 01-22-2008, 03:49 AM
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So far so good. Might normally lighten up as we approach the support level but going to let the whole thing run.. Stop at break even and just check in occasionally. The ASX has been creamed down 10% in 2 days and nearly 25% off our Nov 1 highs, this in a strong economy. Suggests more downside tonight
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Hello jocelyn,

I was wondering if you could get into this comment a little bit. My question is: When price retraces and tries to hit these stops, who is it doing it? Is it just the trading crowd in action, or is it big, players sweeeping up?
Most of the major/minor levels on the currency charts harbour stop activity Josh.

Above & below the big swing levels, previous big weekly/monthly high-lows & key Round Numbers, hide the majority of the larger players protective & compound entry stops.

As intraday activity begins to threaten these major swing levels, price will become whippy as the market starts to work through & absorb the two-way traffic which house the various stops. It’s part of the reason why you witness sharp, erratic price moves as these levels come into focus.

Not only is there protective stop-loss activity lurking in there, but also fresh (new) entry orders residing from the differing timeframe trading community.

It’s all part of the bigger supply & demand battle. Whoever carries the biggest clout wins the day!

Usually, as price breaks thru a key level it will butt up against counter stop activity lurking beyond that level. This will cause turbulance until the bulls or the bears overcome the obstacles & re-assert their dominance.

As an example, take a look at USDJPY around the key 114.0 level. It was strongly rejected in 2nd Quarter 04 & slowly made inroads back up to the level during summer 05.

It got repelled during that summer & finally broke thru early into 4th Quarter of 05. There was obviously a large build up of buy stop activity beyond there, as it hadn’t been actively traded for 2 years.

The strength of the buying (stop activity) accelerated thru the level & journeyed 7 handles (up to 121.0) before popping back quite aggressively to re-test the level late into 4th Quarter 05. A good percentage of that early penetration thru 114.0 was down to (buy) stop build up & momentum.

But if you were to drill down into an intraday timeframe, around the time it broke thru 114.0 you’d also have witnessed lower timeframe stop activity unfolding. Both Tess & myself traded the level back then & I recall quite fierce intraday movement as it worked itself out.

The fast money are only intent on capturing small profit targets, therefore their window of opportunity is fleeting. But they’ll still be very aware of the price levels which harbour strong stops.

It’s these levels where they make their money. Which is why the professionals know their marketplace inside out. They understand the mechanics of a price level & the limitations of their game. They also know where the likely mine fields lie & who is also likely to become ensnared in it’s traps!!!

The answer really is that ALL the different timeframe players contribute to the price moves which affect breakouts, retraces & rejections of key levels.

Take a look at this level (114.0) since late 2005. It’s a magnet for pivotal 2 way trade, especially since last summer. An awful lot of stop action resides around this key fulcrum.

If you use that example of how differing players influence a level by their aims & expectations, then you’ll begin to realize why & how these zones heat up constantly during the trading week.

Large & small players have very, very different aims & expectations up & down the price chart. But they all work the same levels as they come into focus & play them for their own aims.

Just sit back when one of these levels begins to hot up & try think about who wants what from it & why?

If we’re in a strong downtrend, who might want to play at a new low & why? Where would the shorts want to get onboard with their compound entries.

Where would the longs prefer to engage to test the resolve & stamina of the shorts?

What would need to occur in a strong trend for a counter move to assert itself?

And if such a move begins to materialize, where would the likely “stops” begin building to take advantage of this activity?!
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Now this is a post of some substance,I've never come across this information elsewhere.
Any idea on how to print out individual posts?
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