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Old 10-12-2007, 08:26 AM
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do you look out for candlestick formations a la Steve Nison?
Just to take this a stage further these 2 charts are from GU on 3 Oct. What do you think happened next and why? Was this enough information to trade off ie a candle and a level. What other information (if any) would you need
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Old 10-12-2007, 08:32 AM
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Using you as a model, you engage the market on your terms at the levels you decide are important (ie strategy). What entry set ups you then use are a different matter and probably of relatively less importance. I have the latter not the former.

Exactly. We wait for the market to issue the green light, we never, ever jump the lights – very important! To a degree, yeah the entry/exits rate lower down the list of priority. Trade management & strict risk measures are the be all & end all in my book.



Essentially I prefer trading trends. The multiple timeframe strategies therefore suit me. I find the best entries at the European or London open and I have a small number of favoured pairs.

Then that’s where your focus should lie in the interim.

Get a good handle on those preferences & work your risk & trade management models around those set ups which stimulate your trading senses. Trading is all about familiarity & comfort zones. You should be able to trade your set up’s blindfold.

You should also be able to switch your screens on, haul up your pairs & very quickly assess whether the environment is suitable for you to come out to play. If it’s not, you switch off & go do something else until it tips you the nod.

Great traders know the meaning of, & adopt discipline as a major ingredient of their everyday work practices.

Good traders have an awareness of it.

And the rest can’t even spell it!!



In terms of strategy then, at the Europe open and for up to a couple of hours after, I should look for the best trending pair within my area of competence and if an appropriate set up occurs trade it.

And if not, pack up & go spend time with your family (see above).


I am currently excited about the 3 ducks as my set up and break of a key level my entry signal. If no trade is obvious I should take the night off.

Hmmmm, a pattern seems to be appearing here?!!


If this does not produce the 2 or 3 trades per week that I am looking for then I might look to use an IB, round number or other strategy which can equally well work in a ranging environment.

Sure, nothing wrong in having a plan B. Just ensure you’re looking to trade for the correct reasons & not merely to satisfy a craving.

Remaining ‘flat’ is also a position in the markets!


I think this is the start of having a strategy, a rationale if you will for engaging the market and within that using whichever of my tools that suit the conditions at the time.

Agree. Eventually, when you’ve assembled a small, reliable set of tools & you know exactly when & how to use them, they’ll serve you well for as long as you wish to work these markets.

The major advantage of utilizing discretionary models is that you’ll be best placed to operate in the ever changing market conditions. Markets don’t stand still. The FX market has grown & changed rapidly the past 3-4 yrs, & will continue to grow & stretch with all the influx of different participation.

Price action will be your axis. It will continue to signal your green lights, no matter how volatile they become. The contents of this article certainly compound that view.

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There will be much more of this occuring in future, & the trader who keeps his cards close to his chest, stays on his toes & trades what he see's not what he thinks, will eat well & plentiful
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Bloody good fred this!

tonymand, jocelyn and tess............do you look out for candlestick formations a la Steve Nison? I've got hold of a PDF of one of his books and am going to give it a butchers over the weekend.
Hey droog,

Glad you're enjoying the content!

We're not familiar with Nison's work I'm afraid. I hear he presents a good case for Candlesticks.

Any subject matter which increases skill sets & encourages sensible market behaviour can only be good.

Hope it offers you a helping hand
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SNIP>Just to take this a stage further these 2 charts are from GU on 3 Oct. What do you think happened next and why? Was this enough information to trade off ie a candle and a level. What other information (if any) would you need<SNIP

Well....to be honest I know what happened as I looked at the chart. Why it happened..no idea.

Other information? Fibs and pivots? Scratching me head here.

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Old 10-12-2007, 09:48 AM
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SNIP>Just to take this a stage further these 2 charts are from GU on 3 Oct. What do you think happened next and why? Was this enough information to trade off ie a candle and a level. What other information (if any) would you need<SNIP

Well....to be honest I know what happened as I looked at the chart. Why it happened..no idea.

Other information? Fibs and pivots? Scratching me head here.

cheers4now.
Well my point was that the hammer signifies a turning point, the bounce off the 1H level gives it added impetus as does the fact that it came after a strong push down. So is the candle useful - on its own no, in conjunction with the other information then maybe. There was a higher probability that it was going up than down. Could you trade it on this info - categorically no, not unless you had a plan that enabled you too. So going back to your original question about candlesticks, they may be useful, and they may ultimately form part of your plan (personally I do like them). But there is no magic, like anything else test it out, see what you think and if it fits in somewhere then great. My question about other info was rhetorical. For me I could not trade off that alone unless I had other info that also pointed northwards
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Old 10-12-2007, 10:02 AM
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Hi Droog, this is forming right now. It could end up as a shooting star right on the trendline. I have stopped trading for the week but this would interest me otherwise. We have a downtrend, we have been pushed up there by lacklustre retail sales data from the US, stochastics are overbought. If this ends up as a shooting star, doji or hanging man I would have a plan whereby I could trade it short. But do you see the candlestick forms only one part of an overall assessment of a trade and its risks and rewards. If I did take it I know exactly my stop position, take profit areas and the like.. Looking now it hasnt formed such a pattern but might form an IB aka James method and again that would enable engagement. Or it might now go through with a bullish pattern which could change the scenario altogether. As I said before, enjoy Nison but just consider the material along with everything else you learn
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Ddreamer, considering the chart you posted, since it is a 15M TF, do you draw the s/r line on the 15M or do u draw the in higher TF?
i tried drawing some s/r lines in the 4H chart, and when i got to the 30M chart which i use, they were lots of significant levels in-between the lines....that were not captured in the 4H chaart.

also, how do you guage of price has broken a level, do you wait for two candle to close below it?
No I draw the lines the same as Tess & Jocelyn on a 4hr MT4 chart, but
also on my Oanda 3hr chart. See Jocelyn's post here for an example,
plus there are a few of Tess' posts about with S/R lines on.

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On the 30min or 15min those are mainly lesser S/R lines.

The major S/R lines are found on the longer time frames. A good habit to
get into if you can do it on your charts is either make the chart a bar
chart, or use the -ve magnification button so that you can see just the
peaks & troughs.

When the candles approach the S/R lines they can make one of
a few actions, they can bounce straight off, go through then reverse,
or just go barrelling straight through taking no notice of them at all.

I have been introduced to a method recently where, on a 4hr chart,
if the candle is say a short candle, which goes through the major S/R
line then reverses leaving a shadow, meaning that the bulls have driven
back the bears, on the next candle take a long trade. & vice/versa.

I have taken a couple of trades with this method this week.

It all depends upon how the candles react when they meet a major
S/R line though.

Also once you find these major S/R lines keep them on your chart
for future reference as they do repeat regularly.

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hey there DDreamer,
thanks for the reply and i hope am not bothering you too much.
i ve tried out the suggestions you gave on s/r, it's working alright but i still find myslef in limbo when price is staggering inbetween two s/r lines, now am thinkgi, in such set-up, won't it be good to combine s/r with trendlines or other indicators?
i mean, what other indicators do do you combine with these to improve the quality of your trading decisions?
also, the peak and trough u talked about, that really gotr me interested, can you provide more links to where i can download materials on peak and trogh....i just want to leart the nitty gritty of it all.
thaks really, i appreciate your time
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Old 10-14-2007, 03:14 PM
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Hello blackpips,
I recently looked on youtube for drawing trendlines and fib lines.Just type in forex and it brings up some little training videos.Somewhat helpful when you got the visual aspect to learn also. Good trading!
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Heres a read for you Black Pips.........


cheers4now

Thanks again tonymand
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