and Osama care was just passed through as a tax. Now I got to know what happens to me that actually works and pays for my own health insurance. Why am I paying a tax for service I will not use. Oh wait thats right I forgot thats what the government has become.
I’m not surprised at all. Just because the Supreme court rules something as constitutional doesn’t mean it is… Look at all the New Deal garbage that they held up under FDR. Article 1 Section 8 lists the powers that congress has to “Promote the General Welfare”. I don’t see where it says congress can mandate health insurance… I’m still trying to find out where Medicaid and Medicare are in the Constitution or Social Security for that matter. But whatever… We will continue down the same road. The government and politicians push for radical new things that are not even authorized… The people get angry. The government’s crony courts uphold their lousy legislation and then the people calm down… I’m still waiting for the Republicans to throw out the Department of Education…
It’s a shame that I get so excited when the Supreme Court actually defends the Constitution… It is the norm for them to ignore it now.
What are Americans supposed to do when the government constantly oversteps its contract and then declares that it is within the terms of the contract when the Kangaroo Court rules everything constitutional?
Hopefully this will hurt Obama… Especially since half of his healthcare argument was based on the fallacy that it was not a tax… While the supreme court just defended it because it is somehow a “constitutional” tax.
I wish the politicians actually read the terms and agreements of their jobs… The Constitution.
The Decision
Constitutional — Roberts, Breyer, Ginsberg, Kagan, Sotomayor
Unconstitutional — Alito, Kennedy, Scalia, Thomas
Chief Justice
John Pelosi Roberts
We have to [I]approve[/I] the ObamaCare law
so we can find out what’s [I]in[/I] the law.
With “conservatives” like Roberts,
who needs liberals?
What osama forgot about is JOBS. Now even part time employees will have to receive insurance from there employers. It will now be required by law. Well whats not required by law is there job in the first place. I see unemployment going up up and away in the very near future.
Unfortunately, I don’t see an advantage to changing.
In the midst of all the hysterics by partisan politics, is the fact that the line between liberals, and conservatives has become blurred. The public thinks there is a difference. I might remind you that Obamacare was derived heavily from Romneycare.
It’s a joke to think there will be any difference if a “conservative” wins the white house this November. The same big grinding corporate wheels guide anyone in that position to make decisions that cross the liberal/conservative boundaries.
Here’s a VERY interesting commentary that I came across this morning. It’s a sad state of affairs that this country has fallen into.
Americans Are Being Prepared For Full Spectrum Tyranny
And take a good look at the picture that pops up there. It’s possibly the most eloquent bit of irony I’ve ever seen.
Thanks for that link, Jay. Chilling stuff.
I wish I could say that it’s preposterous fear-mongering — but, unfortunately, it’s exactly where I think we are headed.
Liberty Ave, eh? — Ironic, indeed.
Here is an interesting article. Its a slightly different twist to what I have been thinking about Roberts. Opinions?Erick Erickson: Roberts forces us to deal with health care politically
That is an interesting article, pipmart. Here’s my opinion —
The Erick Erickson article lists a number of “advantages” handed to the Republican Party and to Mitt Romney by today’s Supreme Court decision. And the article credits Chief Justice John Roberts with the brains and the guts to engineer this ultimate, future victory for the Republicans, by playing what amounts to a chess game with Obama. If Erickson’s analysis is correct, then this Supreme Court decision was a brilliant piece of political gamesmanship.
The only problem is that [B]it’s not the job of the Supreme Court to play political games.[/B] The Supreme Court’s job is not simple, but it can be stated simply: to decide cases according to the Constitution of the United States.
To continue with Erickson’s chess analogy, Roberts may have laid an elaborate trap which ultimately will checkmate Obama; but, in order to do it, he had to sacrifice the Constitution, as if it were merely one of his pawns.
Playing fast and loose with the Constitution, in order to accomplish a personal goal, is the sort of misbehavior we expect from Obama. We have a right to expect much better behavior from the Chief Justice of the United States.
Very well said. I am extremely tired of Obama walking all over the Constitution. I was hoping that Roberts would just call it for what it is. Obviously that didn’t happen.
So the day is done and what do we have? A smashed Constitution and as the media would have you believe, a huge victory for Obama.
I think we are actually in better shape then I first thought…
It’s easy to repeal a tax and politicians will think twice about fighting for it becuase they keep thinking about re-election and how much their constituents wouldn’t like another tax put on them . . .
Do you really think any of the democrats up for re-election will vote for more taxes? I think Roberts did that so once its repealed, no one will try to pass it again in the future. Had he just declared it constitutional without the tax bit, then it would be really bad. If he would have killed Obama care by deeming it non Constitutional then the Democrats would just point fingers all the way to election day. They would be screaming and crying all about how republicans are keeping good things from happening for America.
In other news… we had a very positive day 
House votes to hold Attorney General Holder in contempt of Congress | Fox News
NEVER thought I’d have something in common with Mr. Holder… I have a lot of contempt for congress too:D
June 28th 2012, a day that will live infamy.
Obamacare is STILL unconstitutional on so many levels and what Roberts did is pure fraud, regardless of if it helps the Republicans or not…
Here are a few reasons it is unconstitutional.
According to Article 1, Section 7, Clause 1 of the Constitution, “All Bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives; but the Senate may propose or concur with Amendments as on other Bills”.
It passed the Senate on December 24, 2009 and then passed the House on March 21, 2010… The “tax” portion of this bill originated in the senate, not the house… Obviously that is a violation of Article 1 § 7 clause 1.
The one thing I agree with the Liberals on is the fact that it is not a tax… The fine for not buying health insurance is not a tax, it’s a penalty. And even if it is a tax, it’s unconstitutional anyway, as it’s a direct tax that must be apportioned. The Supreme Court is wrong twice.
I have a funny feeling that this law was crafted to fail… It obviously won’t work, because within the law, the fine for not getting health insurance is not enforceable… It is totally reliant on good faith. Now supposedly this fine was to either cover you if you do get sick or to make you buy insurance to avoid the fine… Either way it’s doomed to fail. People won’t pay it so who is going to pick up the tab for the uninsured?.. Ben Bernanke and China obviously… and then the American taxpayer.
The worst part of this bill is the fact that you can buy insurance after you get sick… This is going to drive insurance through the roof and nobody will be able to afford it. This defeats the whole purpose of Insurance… Insurance is to cover you if something occurs, not after the fact.
I guess the Liberals are hoping that people will call on the government to provide a single payer system for everybody because the “free market” failed to provide cheap insurance… Even though it was government involvement that has raised insurance prices, like college tuitions and everything else they put there dirty hands on.
This ruling also opened up the door on the governments ability to regulate behavior… It basically says that now the government can tax you if you refuse to comply with something. They cite cigarette taxes and alcohol taxes as examples of taxes that are used to control behavior… Wrong. If the government could legally do that, why would they have wasted time amending the constitution for Prohibition? Alcohol taxes are excise taxes that are for generating revenue, not regulating behavior…
But the government will never tax the hell out of people until they comply… Surley not… Oh wait.
The camel’s nose is officially through the door.
How can people be such dolts and how can Justice Roberts sleep at night after screwing Americans TWICE in one week. What a mess.
Edit… Upon further research I have come across a few sources that say it doesn’t violate Article 1 Section 7 because the senate took a veterans bill from the house, stripped it clean and put in the healthcare bill… If that stands it shows just how disgusting and conspiring the people we have in Washington are. In my opinion that should still be against article 1 section 7 but God knows the government could care less if it is Constitutional or not.
The thing I don’t get about “reforming health care”, is the fact that health care hasn’t ever been the issue. The COST of healthcare has always been the issue. so, they aren’t trying to reform “healthcare”, they are trying to reform the way it’s paid for.
Which brings me to my next pet peeve. I’m not overweight, I’m in good shape, couldn’t run a marathon, but I don’t get winded taking the dog for a walk. I don’t have heart issues, I don’t have diabetes, and my cholesterol level is fine.
Most of the costs of healthcare are caused by overweight, diabetic heart patients, that smoke two packs a day, and think nothing of a triple stacked Wendy’s cheeseburger for breakfast, lunch and two for dinner. Why should I, or anyone else be subjected to the costs of their extremely poor choice of living?
I am seriously contemplating the “ex-patriot” route. This place is seriously flawed.
Just think about all the times the government has tried to make things more affordable and more available…
Housing, College… and now healthcare?
Now everybody is asking why health insurance prices have been rising… Think of Insurance like A pizza and the coverage’s as toppings. What is going to happen to the price of the pizza when the Government mandates you have to have 70 toppings, many of which you don’t like and don’t plan on using. Why should the government force insurance to cover me for substance abuse and hysterectomies? I’ve never taken a drug in my life, and I don’t have a uterus. That’s just a few of the ones I will never use.
That is just one of the reasons why insurance has been steadily rising. But it’s going to start going through the roof now… Why?
Let’s pretend that a house is your health insurance policy. What did the government do to housing? They tried to make it more affordable and available. They lowered the requirements necessary to get a loan for a home. Bad credit could be equated to preexisting conditions. So people who were clearly unfit for cheaper loans were able to get them, now could. This jacked up the demand for housing because more people, who wouldn’t have normally purchased a house, flooded the housing market increasing the prices for all homes… Much like the steady stream of Obese, Diabetic, Twinkie stuffing, smokers that will now be able to get better insurance policies, at the expense of everybody else.
Look at college… The government wanted more people to go to college, who otherwise would not have. They throw out loans to practically anybody that wants to go. Now almost everybody is going to college with student loans. Since colleges know that more people will be going to college, and the expense is not a problem because everybody can get government loans, they can easily jack up prices even more… What’s the government’s solution to make it more affordable? Maintain low interest rates, which make even more people go, continuing the massive costs…
Imagine if it was much harder to get a loan for college. Would the colleges be able to charge such inflated prices if they knew that most people could only pay in cash because they couldn’t get a loan? No, prices would crash. You used to be able to pay your way through college by working a Summer Job… Good luck with that.
Everything that the government touches turns into garbage
Tang, you’re evil — but, I love you anyway, bro.
This is the only point in your post that I disagree with.
Obama has authorized the hiring of an additional 16,000 IRS agents to handle the enforcement of:
[I][B]Buy insurance or pay the Roberts tax.[/B][/I]
— that’s 320 new IRS Brown Shirts [B]per state.[/B]
The rest of your excellent rant is spot on. (I use the word “rant” in its noblest sense!)
My thoughts, exactly.
Any U.S. citizen who does not have a passport should rectify that situation immediately.
If you’re a U.S. citizen with a valid Canadian or EU passport, that’s better than no passport — but, seriously consider spending the $140 (or whatever it costs now) to get a U.S. passport.
Without a passport, you can’t even visit Canada, without shoveling through a ton of government bullsh!t.
[B]Attention — Obama, Supreme Court, and IRS Brown Shirts:
I am self-insured.
I purchase insurance from myself, and I never miss a payment.
So, I will not be buying any ObamaCare.
And I will not be paying any Roberts tax/penalty/whatever.
Don’t even waste your time trying to bill me.[/B]
Obviously you’ve never been aboard a USN nuclear powered submarine. :42:
The only decent parts of our governments are the ones that are actually authorized under the Constitution. The Military is Constitutional. Obviously I don’t agree with all the wars and the amount of funds that go to the Military, but I feel that the Military is the only part of the government that strives to have quality people in it. Generally the people that go into the military, do so because they hgave a deep love and commitment to this country. I can refuse to support the wars, but I will never refuse to show honor to the men and women that are in the military.
The Bureaucrats on the other hand… To hell with them.
I just stumbled across this quote from Thomas Jefferson that I thought is relevant today.
It was a message to John Marshall after the Marbury vs Madison case
“You seem to consider the judges as the ultimate arbiters of all constitutional questions; a very dangerous doctrine indeed, and one which would place us under the despotism of an oligarchy. Our judges are as honest as other men, and not more so. They have, with others, the same passions for party, for power, and the privilege of their corps… Their power [is] the more dangerous as they are in office for life, and not responsible, as the other functionaries are, to the elective control. The Constitution has erected no such single tribunal, knowing that to whatever hands confided, with the corruptions of time and party, its members”
I wonder what Thomas would say today.
One of my favorite writers has put his finger on the root of all evil. Lovely article, well researched as always, and extremely accurate at pointing out the ball and chain around our public fund’s neck.
Unfortunately, it’s not a surprise to see how banks manipulate the whole financial system. I’m not really politically active but such articles make me show my sympathy to ‘Occupy’ movement.