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Old 06-30-2008, 06:02 PM
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When I look at the major trend on a Daily and it is up, but 1 or more most current candles are bearish...down, is that still considered as an uptrend or is it now downtrend? Sell or buy signal?


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Old 06-30-2008, 06:34 PM
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Google "how to read charts"
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When I look at the major trend on a Daily and it is up, but 1 or more most current candles are bearish...down, is that still considered as an uptrend or is it now downtrend? Sell or buy signal?


Thanks in advance for you assistance.
If you are in an uptrend, which can be described differently for different trading systems, and you see some bearish candles, this is just what you want to see. You dont go long after a series of green candles. You go long after a series of red candles (with short tem confirmation on lower timeframes.) So essentially, when you are going long, there will be a big red candle or two right in your face daring anyone to think long. The ones who make money in these markets are those who can see through the matrix, see through the red candle and identify the emotion behind it. Is it traders remorse? Is it respect of an important level? Or is it a reversal? Obviously a trend trader is very wary of reversals. This is where lots and lots of experience comes into play. So get out there and demo. Just dont be afraid of those candles that are going the opposite direction - they are your freinds.

I hope that this was more helplfull than a reference to google.
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Alyways sell..
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Old 07-02-2008, 12:17 AM
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If you are in an uptrend, which can be described differently for different trading systems, and you see some bearish candles, this is just what you want to see. You dont go long after a series of green candles. You go long after a series of red candles (with short tem confirmation on lower timeframes.) So essentially, when you are going long, You dont go long after a series of green candles. You go long after a series of red candles (with short tem there will be a big red candle or two right in your face daring anyone to think long. The ones who make money in these markets are those who can see through the matrix, see through the red candle and identify the emotion behind it. Is it traders remorse? Is it respect of an important level? Or is it a reversal? Obviously a trend trader is very wary of reversals. This is where lots and lots of experience comes into play. So get out there and demo. Just dont be afraid of those candles that are going the opposite direction - they are your freinds.

I hope that this was more helplfull than a reference to google.
Hi GBLilleyUSMC;55159,


Thanks. And yes it is more helpful. Not sure if I understand this though. You dont go long after a series of green candles. You go long after a series of red candles (with short tem

Right now GBP/USD f.e. is in up trend on a Daily chart and has been in up trend for some time..

All candles are bullish. Are you implying that it is a sell signal even though it is in an uptrend?

The reason I'm a bit confused and want to be clear is because everyone always states to follow the major trend.

Look forward to learning more.
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Old 07-02-2008, 12:36 AM
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I think what GBLilley was saying was; uptrend - buy in the dips, downtrend - sell in the bumps. Watch out for key levels of S&R though.

Fibs and Bolinger Bands can be useful.

Did you google yet? There's some good info there.
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Hi GBLilleyUSMC;55159,


Thanks. And yes it is more helpful. Not sure if I understand this though. You dont go long after a series of green candles. You go long after a series of red candles (with short tem

Right now GBP/USD f.e. is in up trend on a Daily chart and has been in up trend for some time..

All candles are bullish. Are you implying that it is a sell signal even though it is in an uptrend?

The reason I'm a bit confused and want to be clear is because everyone always states to follow the major trend.

Look forward to learning more.
I believe what GBLilleyUSMC is trying to explain is that if a pair is trending upwards (a few green candles recently) that is not the best time to get in the market. It is all a matter of timing and not that he is telling you to trade against the trend. Your best returns will be made if you trade with the general trend, but get in just after it has made a slight correction (a few recent red candles)
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I beleive that the original question was something along the lines of, "If we are in an uptrend, but the most recent few candles are red.... " So no I am not implying that you buy during a downtrend, thats called catching a falling knife (Which can get you cut, and I dont like getting cut... it hurts me.) I am saying that if you are buying on a big green candle after a series of green candles on an uptrend, you are most likely price chasing. Get in on a dip. And a dip in an uptrend is going to look like a few scary red candles.
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Old 07-03-2008, 02:42 PM
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Thank you all guys for your help, but my question was referred to Daily/weekly chart and not a short time frame.

I was not sure how to interpret a long up trend/downtrend with 1 or 2 most recent candles going in apposite direction.Was that indication of change of a trend or just a short correction ..was my question.

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Old 07-03-2008, 04:06 PM
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Thank you all guys for your help, but my question was referred to Daily/weekly chart and not a short time frame.

I was not sure how to interpret a long up trend/downtrend with 1 or 2 most recent candles going in apposite direction.Was that indication of change of a trend or just a short correction ..was my question.

Thanks
The response is the same: after a series of up candles (there's no set number here) in a clearly discernible uptrend, wait for a pullback - a smaller series of red candles - to make your entry. If you are long, you'll see this referred to as "buying on the dip", etc.

Long, sustainable trends do not continue in a single direction without any pauses or temporary interruptions: they run forward, take a few steps backward, and then run forward again. If you want to get into the trend, don't enter while the pair is running forward; wait until it steps back to get in at a better price. Otherwise, you risk getting stopped out when the pair does pull back against you.

This is true across all timeframes - there's no difference between how to treat the trend on a 15 minute chart v. a daily chart. The only distinction is how long it will take for a pullback to fully evolve for your entry. It isn't necessary to wait for a pullback - sometimes it is not the most appropriate thing to do; but those are shades of gray for traders who've been at it awhile. At this stage of the game for you, GBLilley's advice is sound. Some examples of this in action would be helpful, which is why Vulcan's suggestion is a good one, too.
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