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Old 05-21-2007, 06:27 AM
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Well, instead of going to the school of zero risk hedging is the school of minimal risk. While minimizing risk it also minimizes profits at the same time. It is like buying an insurance policy for a trade.

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Wow you really know your stuff.... is that the first link when you google or the second?
What he is describing is called a 'perfect hedge' hence no risk simply paying spread to your broker.
I personally think it is hard for us retail guys to be making good carry trades as the spread our brokers have on the carry is so wide it's a bit of a stealth tax (i've never seen a broker advertise how good they are with the caryy spread and infact most try to hide it!) but i'm sure there are people out there that even with this big disadvantage make money.....
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Old 05-21-2007, 10:21 PM
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...If hedging didn't work then why are there so many successful retail hedgers out there?...
As you know Hobbit, I am the biggest idiot you know.

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Old 05-21-2007, 10:37 PM
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hedging is just have two opposing positions on the same pair. So for example say you go long on the EUR/USD. To hedge it you would go short with a different position. That's really all there is to it
Technically, taking a long AND short position on the same pair is called offsetting, not hedging.

A good example of hedging is taking two different pairs that are highly correlated and opening positions on both of them simultaneously.

Example: Long EUR/USD and Long USD/CHF. Since the two pairs are inversely correlated, assuming you opened equal position sizes for each pair, your net position should stay close to neutral. Of course, this correlation decouples from time to time, so be careful.

Another example is if you were bullish the dollar due fundamentals but wanted to minimize your risk. Out of the four majors, you could pick whichever felt has the best technical bullish setup, and go long. Let's say USD/CHF. Then you could pick a pair that's not considered a "major" that shows better fundamentals/technicals than the USD. Let's say USD/MXN. So you would go long USD/CHF cause you're dollar bullish, but short USD/MXN at the same time to hedge your bet, just in case you're wrong.
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Old 05-22-2007, 12:06 AM
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what i sometimes do, and not really considered hedging, but close is: go long EURUSD and in the same time go short USDJPY or vice-versa. if trends and data regarding the $ are clear, then this can make you a lot of pips however, be warned, the risk is much greater, so unless you are confident with your decision to go long or short on EURUSD and USDJPY, don't do it.
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Old 05-22-2007, 01:24 AM
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Technically, taking a long AND short position on the same pair is called offsetting, not hedging.

Example: Long EUR/USD and Long USD/CHF. Since the two pairs are inversely correlated, assuming you opened equal position sizes for each pair, your net position should stay close to neutral. Of course, this correlation decouples from time to time, so be careful.
Wouldn't this just give you the same risk profile as going long eurchf?
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