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Old 06-03-2007, 11:18 PM
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Hello,

bazooko:

Don't worry - the hardest thing I ever had to learn was to accept the answer 'that's why' to a 'why' question so I know what you mean.

On the other hand - I think you misundertand what I am saying - I am not saying that it's the banks that do this - it's the individual broker(s) I'm talking about. How can I have three different accounts at three different brokers looking at the same instruments on the same timeframe and only one of them has this 'spike' to which I refer?

mdetlh:

Thanks for the info - I WILL find what I'm looking for (eventually) and then I'll post it here.

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Old 06-04-2007, 11:41 PM
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Hi Dale,
I guess I was reading you wrong. I have seen those spikes that your are talking about, but I cannot remember what platform I was on when it happened. What is the platform that you are getting it on. When it happened it was a demo account and I called the broker and asked them about it. I like to call the broker when I have a demo with them because it will give me a feeling on how they will treat me with a live account. Anyway they said that it was a computer error and they would adjust my account. I did not like that so I closed the account. I think you might have the same problem give them a call and if so close the account.
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Old 06-05-2007, 03:39 PM
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Default 1999 TA "Bible"

by John Murphy says in its chapter on volume and open interest that only end of day volume known as open interest is published with a days delay. So Longs and shorts in futures is misnomer cause they are all long and short positions for the opening of a futures contract. Now that was 1999. But I think your main point was to figure if someone was hunting stops.

Certain groups of people are notorious hunt stoppers. But who knows when those orders will show with any certain platform. Perhaps the best approach is to understand where the various techniques for catching trends, and identifying support and resistance along with the trend lines. I got a free email once from the Nison candlechart people which suggested that one could identify support and resistance via the candlestick analysis, as well as identify reversals, the main purpose of candlesticks apparently.

So the more I read up on TA, the more the maxim, TA discounts everything is appropiate, cause all that stop hunting and everything else related to the price is reflected in the charts in a visual way.

After reading the above stuff from Murphy's classic TA book, the more I think that finding real time quotes that you are looking for is a fool's errand. Understanding the charts and candlestick analysis makes all this financial speculation so much easier.
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Old 06-05-2007, 04:29 PM
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Hello - and thanks everyone for the replies so far.

Just to clarify:

I am not looking for this information to check for 'stop hunting' - we know it happens - I just mentioned what normally happens just before news data is released at one of my brokers - sorry for the confusion.

The reason I am looking for information like this is that I believe (if it is available) that it could help in making trading decisions.

To explain further:

Let's say that you somehow knew for a fact (or at very least took all the information available to you whether by way of the media, fundamentals, etc. etc.) that the DAX (or Gold or anything else) had a target (all time high) of 8137 or that this was a 'significant' resistance level for the DAX. What would you do? I would place entry limit shorts at around 8135 my logic being that when this resistance level has been reached there would be a retractment. This retractment would in part be initiated by the triggering of thousands of these orders not so (self fulfilling prophecy). I have seen this happen with Gold over that past few months - no question. If you knew for a fact that there were thousands of these orders hanging around a certain level waiting to be triggered then you would pretty much know where to place your own orders i.e. you may be wrong about the resistance level but if say a really major player ('da big boyz') or two had orders waiting to be triggered at a certain level you know exactly what is going to happen to the price once those orders have been executed.

Make sense?

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Old 06-11-2007, 05:06 PM
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Smile Real time data for day trading?

Ok I think I get your point. Are you not in cahoots with the Murphy book? In the back of his book, he discusses two advanced indicators designed for futures. He takes the total weekly data, looks for divergences, draws trendlines off the indicators and looks for trend reversals using those indicators, which account for the volume, open interest and prices.
Murphy's approach is put a much greater weight on the weekly data. And I'm becoming a bigger fan of his some weekly strategies the more I read and think about his approach.

I hope you find what you need, perhaps you are already aware of the Murphy book and are trying to refine it with real time data?
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Hello mdetlh,

Sorry - I hate not replying to people that have answered me - just been busy.

No - I have not heard of Murphy or his book - maybe you can post some more information.

I was just wondering about the availability of this info (which I have still not found). I reckon it could be valuable if it were available.

Anyway - thanks for the reply - I'm busy working on something else right now so I have interrupted my search for now.

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Old 06-14-2007, 07:10 PM
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Default Herrick Payoff Index

sorry about the cryptic nature of the last post. But I think the closest I can find to what you are looking for is the Herrick Payoff Index. Its part of the advanced indicators chapter in the Murphy book. It includes the weekly volumes and prices and I think it was available with Metastock.

Reading the Murphy book has been a great education on financial markets in general. I can see why it is an essential part of the chartered market technician curriculum. Your post was a prompt for me to dig in further until I can actually trade something in the next year. Some people call the Murphy book a "bible" on trading.

I've found a couple of good trading tactics, and recognize chart patterns much better after reading and browsing through the book.
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