Come to think about it: every time I’ve seen your screen or login name I’ve wanted to compliment you on it. That’s the spirit!!!
(And old favorite that was worth a ‘bump’)!!! LOL!!!
Regards,
Dale.
Got it the first time around, seeing how making 2.4% over 23 weeks makes even a bank interest rate seem better. And on the topic of profits, as Dale mentioned, some have lost touch with reality or what goes for it.
I don’t really see how making 2.4% in 23 weeks (never mind the original misunderstanding) is worse than making 2% to 2.5% in 52 weeks (which is what the average European bank will cough up over a year).
O.
The original post said 2.4% for one week, what is there to misunderstand? That’s impressive enough for me as an average return.
I’ve been meaning to reply to this thread for days, I originally replied that 2.4% was basically a waste of time in half a year, but it then became clear that it was a weekly profit! 2.4% every week on average, that is worth posting about, good on you.
Morning and afternoons great traders,
Best of luck to your trading with great success! I will update my balance once every Saturday 2 p.m. Eastern time (GMT +5), stay in touch.
Happy trading :60::60::60:
Come on, you got to be kidding about the Euro bank interest rate - 2.5% for 52 weeks…damn, that’s way too low, I stand corrected. But yes, I believe the poster was posting about a 2.4% return weekly and which is quite good. I do have one additional query, care to post a breakup of your strategy?
Hi Fxmall,
I already answered my strategy in the early response. If you don’t see it, bud me again, and I don’t mind to share it!
Cheers,
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No kidding; the average savings account will yield about 2% per annum.
Call money pays between 2.0% and 2.7% p.a…
I’m not sure about the US but I guess it won’t be much different.
O.
“Floor traders are THE ‘professionals’ (and I’m talking about those that trade for their own accounts not some ‘runner’ for a broker) and no they don’t have charts in front of them with all manner of indicators etc. They are as ‘close to the ground’ as it come in this business. They DO have a ‘feel’ for the markets or should I say that the good ones can ‘read’ the markets. The others (that cant) fail the same way as most retail traders (us).”
Dale - I suppose you already have but if you didn’t watch the documentary movie named “Floored”. It is a recent production following on floor traders at the CME. Not applicable to FX but fascinating nonetheless. Floor traders are a dying breed as reflected in this movie and guess what is killing them: what we do. Computer based trading by others who learned to adapt and moved on with time. It is all summed up by a statement made by Linda Bradford Raschke in an interview shown in this movie. Made me feel like the rest of us are actually ahead of the floor traders. I still admire them for the time that they had.
Of Course they use!
Sure, do post it again [if you do not mind] or send me a pm, will look forward to it,
thnx
Oliver,
That’s way too low, you would think given the current situation, they may want to revise the rates upwards. On US, pretty much along the lines. Given these low rates, it makes more sense to invest in gold or invest in the Fx market [provided the person knows about the market].
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You said you use the Weekly chart for the overall trend the daily for SnR and the 5 min for the trading and chart patterns?
Well from everything I have learnt that makes no sense how you are profitable. For one… 5 min data would be near enough meaningless to a weekly chart trend. And 5 min data would not best suffice a daily SnR,
I’m confused…
From the May 01, 2007 issue of Futures Magazine
Capricorn FX: Tested methods that work
By Steve Zwick
April 17, 2007 • Reprints
For Mikkel Thorup and his two partners at Swiss-Danish currency group Capricorn FX, trading is neither fancy nor avant-garde. “We’re not trying to do neural networks or things like that,” he says. “We just find what works and get to work.”
The results bear him out: since launching in 1999, the group is averaging 25.14% per year with a Sharpe ratio of 1.45 and a maximum drawdown of 13.19%. Today, they have more than $60 million under management (edit: $250,000,000+ in 2012)
They utilize three short-term OTC currency strategies in three currency pairs: USD/EUR, USD/CHF and USD/GBP. In February, they launched a medium-term program utilizing OTC currency options in these three plus other pairs.
The short-term strategy employs three different programs on three different time frames, none longer than two days.
The shortest-term program is a moving-average-based momentum approach designed to grab intraday moves. A slightly longer-term component uses countertrend indicators based on proprietary overbought and oversold bands on charts from 30 minutes to two hours, with positions held for anywhere from five minutes to two hours. The longest-term component uses trend-following indicators on one-hour to four-hour charts, with positions held for up to two days with wider stops and lower gearing.
Although the program has specific entry and exit levels, they use discretion when placing the trades. “The final say is in our minds, even for momentum trades, and one person always has his finger on the trigger,” Thorup says, adding, “The human brain is far superior to a computer.”
Not least because the brain is more flexible and can make finer distinctions. “We’ve seen most of the interesting movements in forex over last 15 or 16 years,” he says. “We can see something we’ve seen before, but if it doesn’t seem to be acting the way it used to, we can reduce the size of the trade, or, if we have a lot of confidence, add to it.”
Their trades are technical, but they avoid the market when a major report or other foreseeable fundamental event is scheduled. “You can get a lot of fundamental noise when these events happen, and some people can make money on that noise, but I see it as flipping a coin. I don’t want to trade on that sort of stuff.”
The Copenhagen native got into the markets sixteen years ago at the age of 20 as a retail securities broker. A year later, he went to commodities specialist Husted, Jessen & Zahl International, where he first became exposed to currency futures on the Chicago Mercantile Exchange.
There he encountered John Murphy’s Technical Analysis of the Futures Markets. “The indicators I learned then are the same ones we use today: moving averages, overbought/oversold, MACD, relative strength…”
Itching to trade, he took a job as a broker trainee at Credit Suisse, which brought him to Geneva in 1995. “The bank basically let us develop our own trading techniques, but they made sure we followed their money management,” he says. “They were mostly concerned that we learned about compliance and how to measure risk.”
His returns were good enough that, a year later, he got an offer to be a proprietary trader at Smith Barney, where he traded spot currencies and futures on the major stock indexes for the bank’s book until 1998 when he started Capricorn.
“It was rough at first,” he recalls. “I had $3 million in seed money, and thought that with my results, about 15% a year non-leveraged, I’d have no trouble getting clients.” For two years he handled trading and sales on his own, but in 2001 decided to set up an office in Switzerland to attract institutional money, and brought in Swiss native Martin Zoller to administrate. The two contracted marketing consultant Mike Rasmussen to get out the word, and he became a full-timer in 2004.
By then, they’d brought in another Dane, Lars Buhl, to help with system development. “He’s got a great mind for markets, and I had wanted to work with him since my days in Copenhagen,” Thorup says.
Thorum and Buhl spent nine months perfecting the new options strategy. “We developed it after seeing changes in the market,” Thorum says. “We had lots of long, flattening, congested markets going nowhere, in a range of 200 to 300 pips, and we began to look for ways of exploiting it.”
The options system was up more than 9% in its first two months of trading. “We start with a one-month options straddle, and then trade spot against the straddle.”
He says the system makes money when the market is range-bound or trending, and only loses if the market closes a month within a narrow monthly band of where the position was initiated. “The important thing is that we’re not net sellers of options, we are only paying premium. So we won’t get hurt if volatility returns, and we and the client know exactly what the max monthly risk will be.”
Modern, thanks for that article.
Don’t mention it - just hoping to help folks see the wider reality within the space - which is that everyone is doing it the way that works for them, at all levels and with various degrees of sophistication.
What kind of professional do you desire to be? If it takes technical analysis to get you there and that’s your forte I advise going for it. I personally like to diversify.
The hardest part about trading is taking the patience and time to understand how each rule you create to adhere to the market effects your trading account. Some rules have inverse effects, some have no tangibly definable results over time. But there are some rules that do have results we all desire, a high probability that they will continue to stick for an indefinite period of time. It is up to us traders to conceive these rules and apply them in unison to achieve a strategy that can give us dependable results; positive trades with a higher likelihood of winning more than we lose both in terms of profit and winning percentages. It’s not just technical, or fundamental or any kind of analysis that’s going to get us there. It’s all of the above, some luck, maybe a few accidental discoveries, and more time to compile all this together for a super strategy!