How Long Does It Take to make $5000/Mo consistent profit?
I am a newbiew in Forex but am very comitted to master trading, I don't mind spend 70 hours/week or more to master Forex trading. In fact I don't see learning Forex as working ,it is fun for me and enjoyable.
A little about me :
I am a small business owner. I lost a lot of money and a house in mutual fund and stock trading in 2008. I was totally devastated because of this. This occurence has caused me to be a very risk averse person.
Lost a lot of money because :
- Over confidence
- I used money that I can't afford to lose
- Emotional factors
- Money management
- Noob skill in trading.
- Other classic noob mistakes
Lessons learned , it's a lesson that I will never forget for life because the experience was so painful, The desire to be a full time, profitable trader never completely ceased though.
I now want to go back into trading after 5 years.
What I am going to do :
- I will focus on psychology, RR and money management. I will try everything to enforce discipline.
- I will pick a simple, yet proven trading system at Forex Factory. Trading Made Simple @ Forex Factory
and will stick to this system only until I master it, won't waste my time playing/experimenting with other systems.
- I will quit my small business and get into forex full time. The business has not been profitable for the last 3 years anyway and I don't enjoy it but with trading it feels different, it doesn't feel like work at all.It feels fun.
What I have :
- I have $ 125.000 saving. $ 80.000 will be enough to cover my expenseses for 2 years. After 2 years of learning Forex , I will be left with $ 45.000.
- Is it possible for me to make consistent $ 5000/Mo through Forex after 2 years or hopefully 1 year using seed money of $ 45.000?
I will only learn and apply 1 proven trading system , Trading Made Simple @ Forex Factory
I will focus on psychology, RR and money management. I will try everything to enforce discipline.
Did you ask the people at ForexFactory?
And to answer your Question,
Cool that you already have the mindset that your going to lose almost 50% of your Investment, How do you know that already/?
If you didnt handle it well the last time you lost, what makes you think you wont In FOrex, because really, its a totally different animal, and it WILL bit your entire head off without notice..
I do not want to keep you away from trading your money, but seriously:
- Your are talking about making more than 11% return evey month on a regular basis... I think it's a bit crazy and would mean taking to much risk (cf your other investments...). 5% would already be a more legitimate target?
- Though you would get $2,500 every month... Do you know what the taxes are on profits in your country? In mine, it is at least 30%, so you would get $1,800 a month in the end. Without any of the benefits of working in a company.
- If you work 70h a week on this, you will get emotional on your trading, and that's when you will make mistakes.
Thus I would recommend to keep your job (or find a better one that suit you more), learn about trading and financial markets (and not take directly an existing trading system...), and send 30min to 1hour a day to look at the market and place your trades. Demo account first, and then small money, to avoid the emotional part.
And then you might be able to see how much you earn, and if you could become a "professional" trader.
But still, I argue that spending all your time on your computer watching the market will lead you to be more emotional about your trades, and thus you will make more mistakes and earn less money than if your keep your job. But that's only my advice!
As a small business owner consider this. Your starting a new company, and you have $45,000 in start up funds. How long will it take you to grow your business 133% returns per year (uncompounded) as a start up? How long does it take to get your operations ramped up and efficient? How about your costs of doing business and overhead? How about proving your business plan is viable? Targeting the correct market and consumer?
Originally Posted by cowcool
substitute company/business for trading and you have your answer.
Good post funtim, i agree..
Dont get wrong, chart time can be very benificial, and Im not saying that someone needs 10,000 hours to be successful, ..
Heck, I have over 11,000 and Im not even great YET,
Last edited by MoneyNVRSleeps; 07-12-2013 at 07:01 AM.
Making $5000 per month is not too hard these days with increased leverage and in particular high volatility. The problem is making $5000 consistently every month. I have worked in the financial markets for the past 9 years and have seen people make and loss a lot of money including myself. Consistency is key.
If I was looking to invest 45k i would look at allocating a % of it in a steady growth fund and self directing the rest. I personally have most my savings in a trading account that is managed by a fund manager who I know for some time and I can trust. The account is set up so that if the value of it goes below 80% he is automatically disconnected. So far I am very happy with it and I can login and check the account at any time. It made 55% last year so I am considering put much in it this year.
In conclusion an invest of 45K would yield $2062.50 a month in the first year and $3196 in the 2nd year based on the last few years performance.
Hope this helps
You need to be cool...
Give the time on learning for 4/5 months without investing a real money.
We all here are in different threads. Come there and see how much you understand.
Just get used to a platform, ( MT4 or whatever ) 1-2 weeks tops, then open a micro account somewhere..
Let me tell ya, I sure wish I had $80,000 to throw down.. Im up 30% this week.. The best week of my forex career, to be honest..
Repetitions are important, practice, practice, practice, Take notes, Learn to adapt to the price action, and be on top of the Forex calendar..
Many more than you can imagine. Forget it.
The answer to your question depends on who you are and how you trade. Getting that amount every month after 2 years is possible, but requires alot of balls and risk. You have to be a very smart person and learn all there is to know about forex in just two years. Technically, it is possible, but it depends on you.
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