Question on Set&Forget and eToro

Hi all,
this is my very first posto on babypips forum, I’m quite new to forex and I have an eToro account that today I use to copy traders and experience forex S&F strategy not in REAL mode. I found this useful link:

Daily 95 pips from the forex market [set and forget]
This trading methods that you will be reading shortly is not new at all and many of you could already be familiar with it. I am simply keeping the transmission of the knowledge ongoing for the benefit of those who are into forex trading research. I urge you not to take anything that you read on the forex trading for granted and do you own personal efforts to verify all the claims made. You should demo/practice/paper-trade all these methods before you decide to move onto trading them on your live account with some real money.

The Daily95 pips method has been said to be very profitable in the past and could still keep making money in the future as well, however, as we all know the adage, ‘past performance does not guarantee future returns…’… you should always bear this in mind. Having said all these, let us move to the strategy.

Overview of the method

This system is a pure ‘set and forget’ trading method and is 100% mechanical as well. There is no need to analyse anything at all to make trading decisions. When the time comes, you simply open your charts, place your orders, then close everything. It is similar to the weekly method we wrote about last week except that this one works on the daily with a twist on the money management system. We will be using a 30 pips stoploss and all orders will be placed on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday and Friday.

As I said earlier, the basis of this trading method is well known as we will be simple placing pending orders 5 pips above the PREVIOUS day’s HIGH and 5 pips BELOW the PREVIOUS day’s LOW. Yeah, indeed as simple as this, it is a daily breakout system and there is nothing secret about it. However, the secret lies in the ‘twist’ in the money management we spoke about above. With this twist, we will try to make 95 pips from a 50 pips move! I will explain how to get this done, no worries.

EXECUTING AND PLACING THE TRADES

  1. Determine at what time your broker closes its daily candle as this varies from broker to broker. After you have done so, bookmark this time as you will be placing your trades at this exact time everyday.

  2. After the new daily bar opens, place 6 pending orders on the PREVIOUS daily candle. 3 Pending buy orders above the High which should be as follows:

Buy/Long Orders:
i. #1 - Entry = HIGH+5pips, Take Profit=15pips, S/L=30pips
ii. #2 - Entry = HIGH+5pips, Take Profit=30pips, S/L=30pips
iii. #3 - Entry = HIGH+5pips, Take Profit=50pips, S/L=30pips

And 3 pending sell orders below the daily LOW as follows:

Sell/Short Orders:
i. #1 - Entry = LOW-5pips, Take Profit=15pips, S/L=30pips
ii. #2 - Entry = LOW-5pips, Take Profit=30pips, S/L=30pips
iii. #3 - Entry = LOW-5pips, Take Profit=50pips, S/L=30pips

Thats it, we have all our six orders in place. Since it is a set and forget method, you are free to go strolling around once you have placed your trades as these trades need no monitoring at all and the only possible outcomes are already known all the time… you will not be having any surprises at all. The possible outcomes are as follows:

  1. All the 3 pending trades get triggered on ONE side and hit takeprofit, you end up with +95pips on a 50pips move (+95)
  2. All 3 pending trades are triggered, two of them hit the takeprofit (+45) and the 3rd one is stopped by the stoploss resulting in -30pips loss totaling in +15pips (+15)
  3. All 3 pending trades are triggered, first hit the takeprofit of 15 pips, the rest are stopped and the pips loss is -60, the total is (-45)
  4. All 3 pending trades are triggered, all of them hit the stoploss resulting in -90pips loss.

These are the only possible outcomes for the pending orders placed on one side, now you can broaden the outcomes if trades on both sides gets triggered. So, with the strategy as is, the maximum that you can lose on one side is -90pips and the maximum you can make on one side is +95pips. However, if you are inclined to monitor your trades, you can move the stoploss to breakeven when trades are in profit to minimize the risk or you can use a trailing stop as well. This will solely depend on you at your own discretion.

The other aspect which need to be taken into consideration is the amount of lots you put on the trades. It is advised that we use less than 3% of the trading capital at anytime and keep the lots amount fixed for all positions, starting with the least available lots by your broker. However, you can play and tweak the system to make it your own for example you can use a bigger lot for the first order with the smallest Takeprofit as it is more likely to be hit and you can decrease the lots amount as you climb up the orders. You can also try other scenarios like using more that 3 orders with a higher takeprofit in an attempt to make 150pips from a 80pips move for example.

Please do take some time to read and study the method, then put some real time into the practice and demo so that you can gauge the performance of the system and know if it can suit your style or now. Suggestions and trading ideas are welcomes. Please report back. Good luck.

but I have some concern on method and eTore.

In article I read that I have to identify time for daily candle closing, but I’m not able to find it using eToro help, can someone help me with this information?

Then more questions on orders: what happens if I have a placed order, with a target price, that I manually cancel before placing it? Do I have to pay some fees?

Last question: what happens to my orders after midnight? Are they cancelled, do I need to pay fees to extend orders to next day?

TIA
Francesco:31:

Best is if you ask eToro support, but as far as I know they do not charge you when you cancel trades (or when trades are executed in general; they make their money through spreads and I do have to say that eToro has terrible spreads). Nothing happens to your orders after midnight unless you decide to cancel them or put a time limit on them after which they simply expire.

This is a recipe for a disaster. It sounds great in theory but when you try to pull this off for a few months you will see what I mean. This can generate great losses when you have spikes. About after the daily close, no!! The spread often opens as soon as the new daily candlestick begins. If this is the case for your broker you need to wait for the trades to normalize and then decide your actions. If you wish to try this with real money do keep us updated. It will take several months before you can determine for yourself the success of this technique but I will save you that time you will be unable to reverse by saying it is a recipe for a financial disaster

Thanks for this. For now, I’ll stay away from those spreads.