Swing trading results- Price Action Strategy

Hi Duane,

great work i see you have put alot of effort into this. kudos. just curious to why your selling swing trading so hard and dismissing day trading?

I assume by swing trading your meaning using timeframes d1 and higher and day trading you mean 1m to h1?

Both can be profitable, but in the end price is action is the same on any timeframe. I don’t agree that day trading is more risky than swinging. I used to trade d1 now mostly h4 and recently tried m5 and found it no different and i was scared as everyone says scalping is really hard. Its just the same you just have to only trade low spread pairs and depends on brokers.

But anyway keep up the good work.

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darth

Hey man, thanks

Yes its the never ending debate between Larger and Smaller Time Frames. Yes, Swing trading - 4Hour and Daily, Day Trading, lower time frames- 1h and lower. Why did you make such a big switch from Daily to 5 Minute?

I will never say that it is [B]impossible [/B]to be profitable Day Trading. But if [B]95% of people[/B] are said to fail and the [B]majority of traders[/B] do so by Day Trading on the smaller time frames, isnt that saying something?

The reality of Forex Trading is that we are all trying to establish a pattern on the price movement of a very important financial asset. However, given that the price of this asset is influenced by so many factors on a Daily basis in such a short-time - trade, investments, Central Bank activity etc.- isnt it going to be more difficult to establish a pattern at such a micro level than with the larger, clearer trends?

Economists already have difficulties in Regression Analysis to establish these patterns using more reliable price data on a monthly, quarterly and yearly basis, so for us to try to do so with even more random, erratic movements each day is a very ambitious task.

There are just too many factors that affect the markets and traders each day to make this a viable choice.

Stop Losses - if these are normally 20-40 Pips for the typical day trader, and the market tends to move by only 60-80 Pips on average, the margin for error is very small especially when you add arbitrary spikes and whiplashes that are much more likely to take out Small Stop Losses than those on the Higher Time frames.

Emotions - this is the biggest factor- trying to constantly force yourself to make money each day given

  • the myriad of factors to consider
  • the pressure to meet a daily or weekly goal
  • the unavoidable reaction of humans to losing money

just makes it an unnecessary uphill battle.

Most will continue to trade this way however, since it is the most promoted way. But the [B]possibility[/B] of profitability is one thing, [B]the reality[/B] is another.

Great response, that’s the thing everyone has his/her view, based apon what they get told, what they experience and what they trade. I’ve been wipsawed on daily as well as ever other tf, banks will manipulate every pair regardless of broker. And don’t get me started on brokers…

But the important thing is that you have a system, that seems to be doing well for you bro. I won’t lie I’m on a losing streak after a winning streak, part of the game. But I strongly believe any tf can be played the same, my mentor trades h4, but loves to scalp so he taught me how, and its no different. Just don’t have the time to be a full time scalper though i wouldnt want to be either.

Anyway look forward to your results.

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darth

…well yes, its all about peoples experiences. but the thing is that most people who trade the smaller time frames seem to have the same bad experiences - including me when I used to Day Trade as well.

Sorry about that losing streak…hope it turns around. Thats actually a very interesting strategy- 4H AND 5 minute. My method is actually suited for persons like you who dont have the time to Scalp. It can even work in the background while you use your existing method. The trades are not as frequent but when they appear, they compensate for the wait.

Another good trade came in today on the GBP CAD - 199 Pips. I will go into detail later in another post but I will show it to you here.


This makes 6 out of 8 trades that are successful so far, together providing a 22% return and close to 500 Pips. This means that I and those who trade with me would now need just 8 trades for a 100% return. Earning a 25% or 50% commission managing 1 Million with a 20%, 50% return would look very good in a bank account.

Swing trading with my method allows you to pick the best trades with large returns without having to trade everyday. Sometimes I wonder if this market was meant to be traded everyday, week instead of identifying the major movements, trading them and sitting back to wait on the next one.


199 PIPS GBP CAD - 22% OVERALL RETURN, 8 MORE FOR 100% RETURN

Methodology continues to produce results.

[ul]
[li]GBP CAD provided an ABC Reversal Signal to start a False Breakout Reversal.
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[/li][li]Range was initially broken short, but eventually U-turned, providing the ABC Signal at Support.
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[/li][li]Entry took place on the 4 Hour Chart according to the rules, trade hit target 3 days later.
[/li][/ul]

This reversal was expected based on the 3-Wave Rule of the previous downtrend (Trade Secret/Rule of Methodology) and the pair of Double Bottoms that were formed;

DAILY CHART


So when this ABC Signal appeared to start the Bullish Reversal, it was not much of a surprise.

DAILY CHART SIGNAL


Setup and targets were set according to rules of strategy…

4 HOUR CHART


The market pulled back to test the Resistance of the Range on the 4H Chart and trigger our Entry Order before rallying sharply to our target…

4 HOUR CHART


DAILY CHART


Main Highlights of Trade

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[li]
[/li][li]Double Bottoms and ABC Reversal Signals;
[/li][li]Testing of the Resistance of Broken Consolidations;
[/li][li]Entry Orders set for Rule-Based Stop Loss;
[/li][li]Not looking at Trade to avoid emotions!!;
[/li][li]FXCM Charts used for our Signals, Dukascopy used for my Live trades;
[/li][/ul]

DEMO ACCOUNT RESULT- LAGS LIVE ACCOUNT BY 3 TRADES, BUT UP 17% IN 2 1/2 MONTHS

This is the FXCM Demo Account that mirrors my Live Dukascopy Trades, but is behind by a few trades.

After only 4 Trades, Account is up 17%, requiring only 8 trades as well for our 100% target.

RATE OF RETURN


TRADES


ACCOUNT BALANCE


Comparing the Live and Demo Returns with the Year-To Date Returns for the BarclayHedge Top 10 as at September 30, 2014…


…the Methodology appears to be able to hold its own.

Swing Trading

Duane
DRFXTRADING

Hi duane, can i ask do you usually trade elliot wave theory? do you always set limit orders? how many pairs do you watch? do you trade patterns everytime or breakouts?

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darth

Hey darth, no I dont use elliot wave theory…I use waves for targets and to analyze setups, but in a different way…

Limit orders are a must for me… cuts down the emotions that can get in the way by monitoring a trade etc…Based on the setup that I see and its expected movement, I target a specific amount and leave the market to do its thing…

I look at these 26 pairs…


I usually trade one at a time as well to keep it simple and my stress level down !! lol

so how to you exactly use eliott then? Im intrigued. Also Do analysis 26 pairs in depth or when you see a setup on one pair that instantly catches your eye, concentrate on that pair?

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darth

Hey man,

No I dont use elliot wave… I use the general concepts of waves, such as the 3 waves in this graph, but in a different way. (Trade Secret lol)


Yes I go through all 26 each day using Trend Lines etc… as you see in all of the graphs here. Once one meets my criteria for entry, I trade it. After Entry, I continue to analyze the market, excluding those that are correlated to the one being traded. This is done to avoid 2nd guessing my decision about the one being traded.

I also general trade one at a time since I really only see 1 pair providing me with a trade at any one time…

EURO CAD 73 PIP TRADE

This was a short position based on the False Consolidation Reversal taking place. This was happening on the Daily Chart.


After few days, trade exited based on Holding Period Rule for 74 Pips, short of the expected 150 Pips targeted.


Low liquidity during the Holidays was the main factor behind this lower value trade -BUT - MONEY nonetheless.

NZD CHF - 231 PIP TRADE

This was a Consolidation Breakout trade on the Daily Chart. Consolidation was formed between Downtrend and Uptrend Lines. Bullish Candlestick signal was eventually given to start the breakout long.



Entry took place based on my strategy and after a few days - with the help of market spike - trade captured 231 Pips , higher than the 200 targeted.


Strong Breakout, Strong Trade, Strong Results

With these last two trades, the Rates of Return on the Live Account (798 Pips from just 10 trades) and Demo Account (632 Pips from 6 trades) are up 47% and 37%, respectively.

The Methodology started on my Dukascopy Live Account on July 1, 2014 while the FXCM Demo Account started on October 1, 2014.

LIVE ACCOUNT RATE OF RETURN



DEMO ACCOUNT TRADE




Hardest part of Swing Trading is switching to it from Day Trading

After that, can be smooth sailing.


Duane
DRFXTRADING

keep it up man, your patience is commendable.

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darth