Its interesting to note that the company which took over American National Trading Corporation, Peregrine was a few years ago, having exactly the same problem maintaining net capital as required by the CFTC, and this was at the time, when the requirements were a lot less stringent. And yet, the company is still trading years later, has now plenty of net capital to cover the current requirements, and is fact in a similar situation as FXCM as to its capabilities to cover any proposed net capital requirement changes.
As of 07/06/2007 http://www.cftc.gov/files/tm/fcm/tmfcmdata0706.pdf
Peregrines Net Capital : 13,758,638
Requirement : 5,000,000
Excess : 8,758,638
Requirement Cover : 2.75x
American Trading : 2,159,273
Requirement : 1,000,000
Excess : 1,159,273
Requirement Cover : 2.16x
Here’s how some other brokers compare normalised with their ability to meet the requirements.
COMPANY | Net capital | Required | Excess | Multiple
FX Solutions| 17,295,130 | 2,064,386 | 15,230,744 | 8.38
GFT | 49,664,118 | 6,904,864 | 42,759,254 | 7.19x
OANDA | 49,222,317 | 9,172,410 | 40,049,907 | 5.37
Gain Capital| 18,930,914 | 4,341,150 | 14,589,764 | 4.36x
I-TRADE-FX | 3,957,357 | 1,000,000 | 2,957,357 |>3.96x
FCM | 44,626,492 | 12,977,713 | 31,648,779 | 3.44x
Peregrine | 13,758,638 | 5,000,000 | 8,758,638 | 2.75x
InterbankFX | 8,584,434 | 3,719,721 | 4,864,713 | 2.31x
1-World | 2,308,460 | 1,000,000 | 1,308,460 |>2.31x
AMTC | 2,159,273 | 1,000,000 | 1,159,273 | 2.16x
The pretext of this thread is dead firms walking … as I’ve posted before, if anything this is simply consolidation for those that can’t meet the requirements, and adjusting the books for most so that more of the companies capital is available for ‘net capital’.
Its also interesting to note Peregrines regulatory actions :
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(fined for not meeting net capital requirements in 2000)
from : OANDA FXMessage: NFA Forex Dealer Dead Pool
Originally posted by forexfigure:
[qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by FXstreet:
[qb] Hi WhipSawFX
I was not aware that Forexfigure was the same guy than FXstreet’s forexscholar.
I do not approve such practices of replying threads in different web sites as it does not leave clear what is your real interest when creating a thread.
Forexfigure, can you please explain why you opened same thread at Oanda, FF, forexnews, FXstreet.com…?
As I said, I do not like nor approve such practices
Francesc [/qb]
It is important information. For too long a lot of this has been swept under the rug in the retail forex industry. A lot of traders have been burned as a result. Whistle blowing is often greeted with harsh responses from those who want to keep all this information secret. But I feel the more places I can blow the whistle at the better it is for the industry. [/qb][/QUOTE]I’ve asked you a number of times, what you meant by this statement. Are you sweeping your ineptitude under the rug ? And what and who are you whistle blowing for ?
Whistleblower - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
A whistleblower is an employee, former employee, or member of an organization, especially a business or government agency, who reports misconduct to people or entities that have the power and presumed willingness to take corrective action. Generally the misconduct is a violation of law, rule, regulation and/or a direct threat to public interest � fraud, health, safety violations, and corruption are just a few examples. For instance, Jeffrey Wigand is well-known in the United States for exposing the Big Tobacco scandal, revealing that executives of the companies knew that cigarettes were addictive and that they added other carcinogenic ingredients to the cigarettes.
Which company do you work for ? and what are they doing wrong ?
from : EFX/MB Trading Going Under? - Page 3 - The NDD Forum - Savvy Traders Want to Know
Moderator: It’s appropriate this thread be ended with “badass’s” comment but it shouldn’t dissuade members from reading the rest of the thread because I think it has been highly instructive. It’s interesting that badass’s IP address is only 12 miles West of Forexscholar’s which is only 5.4 miles West of FXCM’s Manhattan offices. Like badass, I’m sure the inner circle at FXCM wishes this fear campaign (whoever started it) hadn’t gotten as much attention as it has.
Found the above graph interesting from FXCM’s Alexia page.
Related Info for: fxcm.com/
I would encourage everyone to read the thread over at Forex No Dealing Desk Trading | Forex Trading Instruction
EFX/MB Trading Going Under? - The NDD Forum - Savvy Traders Want to Know
Here’s the last post in it
I am closing additional posts to this thread because the ones that have been recently posted here distract from its central purpose. This thread is a must read for those who are visiting the forum for the first time. I suggest new visitors start reading it from the very beginning. It started almost immediately after I published a commentary on my blog related to FXCM’s offer of no dealing desk trading.
It’s interesting to note that neither Forexscholar and Basdass returned to the forum to refute their “outing” so there’s little doubt in my mind that they are, in fact, shills for FXCM whether employed by FXCM or not. It’s also been brought to my attention that identical posts suggesting that all FCMs with less than $5M in Adjusted Net Capital should be abandoned because the NFA is going to shut them done have been posted on a half dozen other forums. The poster, Forexsavior, obviously has little imagination otherwise he wouldn’t have come up with a name with such a striking similarity to the one he used here.
From the very beginning of this forum, I have tried to get brokers to openly discuss the dealing vs non-dealing desk issue and [apart from Justin at EFX and Steve at MBtrading who obviously speak for non-dealing desk trading] no broker or broker representative has come forward to defend dealing desk brokerage. Had Forexscholar [and for that matter Badass] clearly identified themselves, stating the nature of their affiliation with FXCM, their comments would have been very instructive. Unfortunately, they chose to hide their real identities behind manufactured personas. I can only conclude that this is the case because there isn’t a broker out there who can defend the indefensible. Members, of course, are intelligent enough to draw their own conclusions.
Personally, I dont think he’s a shill for FXCM, or anyone else. But its funny as hell, and some coincidence. If FXCM or another company were doing anything like this, they would have employed someone way smarter than this cutnpaster. But why would anyone post the exact same thread on every forum he can find :
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