Bitcoin Purchase/Deposit/Withdrawal

Hello -

Need some help/support to understand how Bitcoin deposits and withdrawals work with some of these Brokers?

Let’s take Coinexx as an Example:

  1. Who do you use to purchase Bitcoin?

  2. Do you lose money on the transaction fees to buy Bitcoin and also deposit/withdrawals?

  3. How easy is it to transfer money from your Bitcoin account to your bank account?

  4. Do you lose money in the fluctuations of Bitcoin prices and how do you plan for this? Not hold the money in Bitcoins for long?

  5. Anything else I need to know or keep in mind?

Thank you all for your help and support for these questions. Very new concept for me.

Hi and Welcome,

I knew nothing about Crypto currencies three months ago, but having spent a great deal of time in the past ten weeks I am now the proud owner of a small investment “wallet” holding six different crypto currencies. My intent is investment, not trading, though I will add trading as an accelerator in about two months time when I have sufficient knowledge and have done some experimentation.

First, there are two types of brokers - those who accept Fiat currencies (USD, EUR, GBP, etc) and hold your funds in their Exchange on your behalf (with you at risk if they fold or get hacked), and those who do not accept Fiat currencies. The latter would insist that you transfer Crypto currencies into your account with them on their exchange of a type they deal in. All deal in Bitcoin (BTC) most deal with at least BTC, Ethereum - ETH and recently Tether - USDT - a coin whose value is supposed to represent 1.0000 USD but whose actual value fluctuates about a tenth of a percent or so. Depending on broker type, you use your base currency that you transferred INTO the Exchange Account to buy other tokens (crypto-currency) such as BTC, ETH or any of nearly 2,000 other variants. Crypto is growing very quickly.

1 I have not purchased Bitcoin (yet) but I used an exchange provider named Bittrex who accept USD fiat input currency (for a 3% deposit fee), and who accept withdrawals in USD to a Fiat bank account. There are hundreds of Exchanges like Bittrex. I subsequently opened an account with FTX before I decided to create a “cryptocurrency wallet” independent of these exchanges and now have most of the crypto funds under my direct control and not on any external exchange. That is either in a warm wallet or a cold wallet. Do some reading on those search terms.

2 Transaction fees are very low for crypto. They are between 0.1 and 0.3%, but there are some minima - you may pay the equivalent of USD 1 to deposit or withdraw, but annoyingly, each exchange charges in different ways. To move from Bittrex to my warm wallet, I needed to purchase a small amount of ETH to be able to pay the “GAS” for moving the tokens from the Bittrex account on their Exchange to my warm wallet account off exchange. Then some small fees to move USDT (Tether) from my warm wallet to new FTX account. Bottom line - don’t transfer very small amounts of funds - or if you do, understand that there are some minimum fees.
3 I have not yet transferred any money from any Crypto account to a Fiat bank account, nor do I intend to for a few years yet, but will do that as a test in the next 2 months just to make sure I know how to do it.
4 I don’t really understand the reason for this question. You need to decide what it is you intend to do with Bitcoin, or any other crypto currency. For me, this is a five to ten year dollar cost average based medium term investment where I expect that the future may be a little representative of the past, though not expecting Bitcoin to repeat its 10 million times value gain (yes, from $0.001 to $10,000) over nearly twelve years. But I am expecting SOME of the tokens to make 10X their value over the next five years, and my investment plan reflects this expectation. So I am in no hurry to take anything OUT for the foreseeable.
5. Yes, I have spent probably 300+ hours reading, studying, watching crypto videos, and reading white papers to understand what each of these crypto companies does for a living, and where their future impact is likely to be in our world of commerce, contracts, IOT and about 30 other sectors, and make my decisions accordingly. If that is not your bag, you could just pay for a crypto advisor to tell you what to buy and when. There are thousands of them on the web, just like the guys who sell Forex courses so you can trade like a gazillionaire.

I hope this has been useful. A word of caution. If you think there is a high risk of losing your money trading Forex, don’t even go there with leveraged crypto speculation (long or specifically short). You’ll lose your ass in about ten milliseconds.

:slight_smile:

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Mondeoman -

Wow! Thank you for the very detailed response. You are the man!!

This is why I stay away from cryptos. Not worth the hassle and risks IMO.

#3 Some of this might depend on your exchange/broker. At least in the early days, depending on how far you verified account (how much personal information you shared), that opened you up to higher levels of deposit and withdrawal at one time. And some of this is baked into the regulations of certain countries. And then also your bank of course, receiving funds. Is the transfer done by ACH or wire transfer, each with their own time frames to complete.

Some crypto exchanges will allow you to transfer/sell crypto holdings to cash or stablecoin, which in effect give you a “bank account” with the exchange. I can’t talk to whether crypto brokers do this or not but many of the top shelf US based crypto exchanges will let you hold USD (and a small handful of other major fiat currencies) in your wallet.

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I use a local app to purchase my bitcoin. I upload it to Tenkofx and place trades most of the times. Yes, price fluctuation does affect btcusd conversion, but I don’t withdraw profit often. Right now I am in the profit by long margin. Bcus I do trade with my bitcoin, any loss due to price fall is insignificant.

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You can use fiat currency for buying bitcoin. And there’s no transaction fees involved.

I haven’t really tried crypto trading with Tenkofx. First I thought the spreads are too wide, but when I compared to other brokers, it is even lower. Still the spreads in general scare me. Do you have a special strategy trading cryptocurrency?

Thank you that you raised up this question, as I am a newbie to cryptocurrency and recently started to learn how to trade with crypto. I am a beginner to the trading world and I remember when I was younger I used to trade with real currencies and was earning good money. Nowadays I am planning to learn how to trade with cryptocurrencies and in order to trade on any platform you need to buy firstly a crypto and the main crypto nowadays is bitcoin and you always need to track bitcoin price on trustable websites as this will the main crypto that influence other cryptos price. Hope I will learn a lot and start trading like a beast when I was younger.
  1. paybis or coinhako
  2. fees are indeed exorbitant
  3. easy
  4. Nope much, if you are worried abt the fluctuation, just exchange it to cash and hold it in online money wallet.
  5. too much transaction in a single month, your local bank start to question whether you are money laundering and terminate your service. it is important to keep money transfer frequency to once or twice a month.

I use Coinbase and Instacoins for my bitcoin purchases.
Yes fees aren’t great but holding offsets this .
I find it relatively easy now but at the start Coinbase was harder to withdraw than Instacoins for me.
All in all I’m up on my initial investments as I DCA and only invest what you can afford to lose same as any investment nothing is guaranteed

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I agree the easiest to use was Instacoins. I buy a bit each month from my salary and just leave it there. Don’t use Coinbase at all anymore personally prefer crypto.com

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I used Coinbase for a while as well but kept running into issues with them. Then I wound up getting locked out of my account, the whole thing was a headache. Wound up using Instacoins instead and I agree the whole process is less frustrating.

They are a good alternative to beginners coming into crypto for the first time for sure

Wait whaaat. How did you get locked out of your account? I use Coinbase too! That’s scary!

Didn’t finish KYC or something?