What Dr Crockford actually said ;
Patrick Moore
PatrickĀ Moore
What Dr Crockford actually said ;
Absolutely, there is already some proof cause of that anyway and we do agree with whatever it may really happen there. How else we can be sure that that Greta Tunberg are for real. Lot of their living history for many many years it was really all fine and now that honestly. Letās wait out.
This is what happens when you write something in German, or Swedish, or Polish ā
ā and then run it through Google Translate.
Here in the UK we are having an election - which may bring resolution, or may be the start of something real and very big ! - a third and probably the most likely opton that it simply confirms to us plebs that we are totally disregarded by the āEliteā
However, in the course of the āPollsā Radio 4 (BBC) reported today on one of their propaganda programmes, on a New Poll which said that 40% of the Electorate would be voting according to their stance on BREXIT - and 4% - Yes FOUR percent, would be voting on "Environmental issues - including āClimate changeā "
However in true Postmeodernist style, the presenter was completely unfazed and said āWell 4% can be quite influentialā - and went glibly on to the āDiscussion panelā of Thermaggedonists they had assembled for this āRationalā - āDiscussionā
Greta Thunberg Marooned in America !
You absolutely HAVE to LOVE This !
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More GARBAGE āStatisticsā - Reported as āfactā by mainstream Media !
Remember the ā97% of Scientists agreeā - junk statistic which turns ut to be 0.3% when the figures are fact-checked ?
Well hereās another - 11,000 responents to an on-line poll are reported as shown below - including a "Professor Mickey Mouse " - I wonder if he is related to the infamous āMickey Mannā of Al Goreās āHockey stickā delusional film ?
so bad that such topics still exist. considering it as a hoax is disgusting 'cause of tons of evidence. yeap, climate changes on its own but we do contribute to it.
Quote from the video at introductory - in order to set the tone āletās check the authors, one of the 5 is a climate scientist, they include an expert on wolvesā:
William J. Ripple - William J. Ripple - Wikipedia (lead author and wolf expert)
The projectās lead author, ecologist Bill Ripple, collected signatures through the Oregon State University website, where a dedicated page urged scientists to add their names to the list. (globalnews.ca)
Thing is that it appears not only Mr Mouse but 33 other pranksters joined. Prof Ripple removed the 34 and allowed some other names yesterday, so the number is now 11,224 with add-ons closed.
This is how propaganda news gets it message across, first belittle the messenger (lead author) - then look for holes in the message (mouse).
Tell this stuff to the Polar Bear who hunts on the Artic ice - except there is no ice.
Or even the residents who live close to the river Don which just set a new height record.
Welcome in to the forum, I am honoured that your first post as a member appears in this thread.
This post however is similar to the typical response from the āthermageddonistsā elsewhere in the thread.
Throughout this thread those of us who are convinced that the supposed threat from CO2 is simply a scare story which generates huge revenues for a great many vested interests have posted much actual evidence in support of our stance, whereas the typical response of those who have an intellectual laziness is simply to state that we are ādisgustingā for stating our considered and evidenced opinions.
The general statement that ātons of evidenceā exists is usual, but none is ever presented - That is the main difference nbetween the two sides of this particular discussion.
Nobody disputes that climate changes on itās own (Well SOME do !) - Nobody disputes that we generate CO2, which is essential to All forms of life and relatively recently came close to getting to such low levels in the atmosphere that life on Earth was getting close to extinction !
I suggest you read this post and watch Dr Patrick Moore;'s video, which is one of , if not THE most informative pieces of evidence EVER produced to my knowledge. (Dr Moore was a founder member of Greenpeace - who resigned when Greenpeace lost itās way and became Politically motivated - he explains his credentials in the video )
[NOTE - His evidence has been presented to various knowledgeable meetings and posted as a serious documentary argument. He has invited ANYONE to challenge his findings ! - to date (to the best of my knowledge) NOBODY ever has done so ! ]
Past levels of CO2 in the atmosphere have been MUCH higher and levels of 2,000 - 4,000 ppm heve been the norm in the past, whilst life in all itās forms has thrived under these conditions.
Ice Ages were also produced in their normal cyclical patterns and frequencies and at the same intensities during these times of massive āgreenhouse gasā concentrations ! Why so ? one wonders ?
CO2 is still at āstarvation levelā for plants and elsewhere we know from Laboratory experiments that whilst it IS indeed a greenhouse gas (Regulary introduced deliberately into greenhouses to promote plant growth which it does hugely effectively) - Itās effect as a āwarmingā type gas is Logarithmic and a DOUBLING of CO2 is required to increase the temperature by between 0.8 - 1.5 degrees !
Apparently even Svante Arrhenius (the originator of the āCO2 hypothesisā in the nineteenth century) knew this, so why it is not factored in to these spurious Climate models they are using nowadays can only be a matter for speculation !
Is this correct?
I think so - If not he was in at the very early stages and is shown on board the RIBs sabotaging the whale hunters - He tells all in that video - including the lovely place he was born and brought up at !
Watch it mate - itās a superb vid full of real sense.
[Edit - to avoid confusion this is Not thePatrick Moore known in the uk as a TV star-gazer ! ]
He came later to the table:
He applied to join the ship, his focus was anti nuclear energy - in truth most of our generation was the same;
Also, like Moore, I have come to realize that nuclear created electricity is actually the cleanest way forward - only difference is I donāt get paid by those guys
Edit: aha - the star gazer was a way more interesting guy
Also, like Moore, I have come to realize that nuclear created electricity is actually the cleanest way forward -
Now THAT is something I can agree with you on - despite it being one of the absolute āNo-noāsā of the Thermageddonists !
I wonder why ?
I have come to realize that nuclear created electricity is actually the cleanest way forward - only difference is I donāt get paid by those guys
The implication being that he was paid to lie by the nuclear industry ?
Thermageddonists
Not really sure about those guys, all I know is that if Nuclear is properly controlled it is clean -well itās the best that nature has to offer right now.
The word āNuclearā does not sit well with environmentalist, which is understandable and know this - Sellafield has a pipe that emits waste - that pipe points towards my home, and I have personally experienced of what is generally attributed to that industry - nonetheless if properly controlled it is the the only way forward.
All that is the past, the NHS took care of that - so def not for sale
he was paid to lie by the nuclear industry ?
Nah, he is just paid by them - itās just the way it is, no big deal.
Always test a man/woman by his word - there was a trader on here some years ago whom i took at his word - āI will never chargeā - then he charged, when he did his word became worthless.
Itās not a big deal, just a test of his word:
PatrickĀ Moore
Itās not a big deal, just a test of his word:
My bad - the Video is perfectly clear that he applied to join a āLittle band of activists meeting in a basementā - and they went on to disrupt the US and French Nuclear tests before going on the āWhale rescuesā
As I said he issued an open challenge to anyone in the world to challenge any of his assertions within his comprehensive documentary and NOBODY has had the ability to do so !
Quote from Bear Grylls tonight - āLast year in the UK over 80 People died through falling into riversā
Always test a man/woman by his word - there was a trader on here some years ago whom i took at his word - āI will never chargeā - then he charged, when he did his word became worthless.
How is that linked to anything in this thread ?
Certainly NOT linked to the person whom you are defaming by association here
How is that linked to anything in this thread ?
Patrickās word: āYou can drink a whole quart of it and it wonāt hurt youā.
Interviewer: You want to drink some?.We have some here.
Patrick: āIād be happy to ā¦ I know it wouldnāt hurt meā.
When pushed Patrick states: āItās not dangerous to humansā.
āSo you are ready to drink a glass?ā
Patrick declined by answering āIām not an idiotā.
Between 29 July and 3 August 2019, Greenlandās ice had its greatest ever summer melt.
A report from the US National Snow and Ice Data Center:
ā¦the melting on the ice sheet surface amounted to ā¦about 90%" of its mass.
Melt runoff was estimated at 55 billion tons during the interval, or about 40 billion tons more than the 1981 to 2010 average for the same period
Iām out of this thread so no more replies.
Homes and farmland are inundated as people in Fishlake, near Doncaster, are urged to leave.