Eurusd

Yes, that is exactly the point I was trying to make, we all perceive thinks differently based on our own experiences.

In the daily is very clear that has formed a higher bottom once the high of 3320 was crossed above, then she bounced back
twice at that level forming a triple bottom, (bulls are very much defending that level).

What will be the outcome? I do not know and I do not think that anybody knows, only fools will.

Also traders tend to see what they want to see instead of what is there and subconsciously hiding the objective evidence. Why? Because traders want to be right.

For the sake of the discussion, is it important to be right or to make money? I guess everybody gets what they deserve
from the market.

Keep in mind that the above is only my humble opinion, and I could be completely wrong about it (most probably).

But please continue with your analysis, honestly I find them quite refreshing and I am sure also others will find value in it as I do.

Cheers
Mike

A Trading Fairy Tale…

"Once upon a time there was an enchanted land called Marketland where a fascinating game called 'The Market was played most days. And the thing about this game was that it would go up or down every day and the players would make bets about the outcome – very simple game.

But there were complications, which had to do with the fact that all the players in Marketland had opinions about which way the market would go.

And not only opinions: The players had systems, methods, evidence and analysis to back up their opinions. They had Dactyl numbers and Pdontiff waves, Xandom lines and Zigdar harmonics. They had the legacies of the old masters, Oerbot and Caljen. They had inventories and earnings, money-flow studies, astrology charts and the benefits of 4th-order spectrum analysis, all of which was extremely fascinating. Yes indeed, the players had many marvelous things.

The problem, though, was that sometimes the methods called for the markets to go one way and it would go the other way. This never failed to astonish everyone concerned, and there were many long discussions about how or why the market could be so perverse. However, it was usually agreed that this had just been a temporary aberration by the market and that the methods and analyses were as good as ever.

But one afternoon something happened to one of the players, a man named Mr. Beright. And he was never the same again. Mr. Beright had made a detailed study of Azerhof numbers, becoming one of Marketland’s recognized experts on the subject. And the Azerhof numbers were now quite plainly stating that the market needed to go up, so Mr. Beright had taken a solid long position.

Unfortunately, quite soon after Mr. Beright had gone massively long, the market started down. This did not worry Mr. Beright excessively, since he realized the market had to go up. But the market (strange creature that it is) wouldn’t pay any attention. It kept going down. And down. And down. And Mr. Beright (understandably, since we’ve all lived through these moments) got quite anxious and depressed. But he knew it would all get better very soon, just as soon as the market turned around and went the way it was supposed to go.

Now all good fairy tales have children in them and this one is no exception. Mr. Beright, it turns out, had a beautiful five year-old-daughter named Herenow, and just as he was contemplating his sad fate, Herenow walked into the room. Sensing that something was wrong, she asked, “what is the matter daddy?”

“Oh nothing, darling, you wouldn’t understand. It’s just that the market is supposed to go up and it hasn’t yet.”

“Is this the market daddy? This line on the screen here?”

“Yes.” Little Herenow went over and peered intently at the jagged line on the screen. And the she said:

“Well daddy, I don’t know anything about the market. But it certainly seems to be going down.”

Well dear, that’s why you don’t understand. You see, the Azerhof numbers say that absolutely, positively the market has to go up here."

“I know, daddy, but right now it seems to be going down.”

“Not only that Herenow, but the Melinxar frequencies state unequivocally that the market has got to go up here.”

“I know, daddy, but right now it seems to be going down.”

“You don’t understand, darling. When the Azerhof numbers and the Melinxar frequencies agree, the market has got to go in that direction.”

Little Herenow looked puzzled. She went over and peered at the screen once more.

"I don’t understand all those things you’re talking about, daddy, and I don’t understand the market, but right now it seems to be going down. Doesn’t it?

Mr. Beright paused and looked carefully at his five year-old daughter. “Would you say that again, Herenow?”

“Just that right now, daddy, the market seems to be going down. That’s all. Did I say something wrong?”

“No dear…not at all.”

And at that precise moment something snapped in Mr. Beright. All those years of studying Azerhof numbers and Melinxar frequencies and everything else swam in front of his eyes. Then he looked at his little daughter again, picked up the phone and sold out his long position. And what’s more, he went very, very short.

Now Mr. Beright is a changed man. Because all that time that he used to spend studying Azerhof numbers and so on he now spends playing golf and enjoying his family. And his friends think he has become very strange, because he has no interest in all those fascinating systems and methods and indicators and statistics about the markets anymore.

But Mr. Beright doesn’t care because he’s making money. Lots and lots of it."

–From the book “The Adam theory of markets?What matters is profit”, by J. Wells Wilder, Chapter one.

First trade of the day:

She broke a major bottom barrier, pulled back to the average, got in, then stalled, got out @ 4.2 pips, my Sl was
trailed at 3 pips from an initial of 5.

Today is Non-Farm Employment Change. Need to be very cautious.

In two hours I will be stop trading for this week.


Second trade:

She pulled back to were she dropped before, got but stopped out at -5.9 pips.


But then she formed a nice block, that I could not say no, my third trade, made 7.3 pips I took the profit at the previous low at market.

A day like this I have to be very nimble to pull some money out of the market.

Enough trading for me this week.


If your referring too the tripple bottom that is formed recently at 1.3000. The part where 1.3000 was touched 3 times. By pure theory it is not a tripple bottom. A tripple bottom only happens at the end of down trends and i mean very end. This is just pure theory.

That 3 touches at 1.300 form a support level for a descending triangle formation which is a continuation pattern. The decending resistance line is the last lower highs that have formed

Thats what the chart is tell me.

I do not have any biases when looking at charts i let the chart tell me the bias.

That high is just retracement from the last leg from 1.42 to 1.26. The down movement from 1.42 to 1.26 will only be over ocne 1.33000 swing high has been broken.

Swimmology

A highly learned professor was traveling on a ship at sea. An illiterate sailor was also on the same ship.
Every night they had a discussion.
The professor asked, “Old man, have you studied geology, the science of the earth?”.
The old man replied humbly, "Sir, I am illiterate so I cannot read. I have not studied geology."
The professor then announced, “Old man, then you have wasted one-quarter of your life.” The old man became very sad at the thought that he had wasted one-quarter of his life.
The next day the professor asked him, “Old man, have you studied meteorology, the science of weather?” The old man replied humbly, "Sir, I didn’t go to school. I have not studied meteorology."
The professor then announced, “Old man, then you have wasted one-half of your life.” The old man became again really sad.
The next day the professor asked him, "Old man, have you studied zoology, the science of animal life?"
The old man replied humbly, "Sir, I am illiterate so I cannot read. I have not studied zoology."
The professor then announced, “Old man, you have wasted three-quarters of your life!” The old man became very sad at the thought that he had wasted three-quarters of his life.
On the forth day, it was the sailor’s turn to ask a question. He came running to the professor crying, "Professor Sir, Professor Sir, have you studied swimmology, the science of swimming?"
The professor looked surprised and said, "No, I don’t know how to swim."
The old man replied, “Oh Professor Sir, I am so sorry! You have wasted your whole life! This ship has struck a rock and it is about to sink. Those who can swim can swim that nearby island. All others will die.”

Hi,

just dropping by to say hello.
I am trading 70 tick EURUSD and will post the interesting trades, did not catch anything today.

see ya!

Hi Fox

Welcome to the thread, looking forward to some real action. 70 ticks? Sounds very cool.

Cheers

gud day to mike8,i recently startd trading n hv onli bin tradng d eur/usd.nw im seem to be makng mch mre wins then i am losses bt my problem is i cn never tell exactly when i am in a loss whch would help me in determing the right time to close a trade at a minimal loss.is there a sure way you know you are losing.

Hi Hle

I am not sure if I understand your question but I will try:

We never know if a trade is going to be a losing or winning trade, best thing we can do is to risk less of what your target
will be. So even with 50% RR, we will come ahead of it

This is a monthly chart, started beginning of 2001.


Hi,

just took a buy trade (chart is 70 ticks EURUSD, GMT timezone): range broken and with EMA20 nicely squeezing the price up.
This was very risky trade because of resistance just a few pips above (not visible, sorry I over-cut the chart) and I almost didn’t go for it.
2 reasons why I did took it at the end:

  • if the price would break the resistance just a few pips above I had believed I will easily get my TP of 9 pips
  • I could set very tight SL just below the last support - 5 pips

Putting this 2 together I believe it was worth a try even if it would failed.


Fox,

Well done.

I also saw it, but missed it.

Well, I have been watching the market for at least 6 hours and I missed at least two good trades. Why?
Because my little head had a bearish bias, due to the political turmoil in Europe, even if the chart was telling me otherwise.

Once I realise that, I waited for the right opportunity, a pull back to the round number, initial SL 5 pips, then 3. I got out a bit before my target was reached (10 pips), due to fear kicking in, because of my two missing trades.

Made 8.6 pips. Done for the day.


The euro fall was just too big for my taste and myself was looking all day for buy trades. Just one though but happy.
Nice trade you caught mate, good eye :wink:

Fox,

Yes, I find it difficult when I have a bias, that is why I tend to read nothing before I trade.

Below is an image of a high quality descending triangle formation that by nature gives a bearish bias. This bias is developed by the prior lower highs where the bears are winning the battle.

Keep in mind it’s not true until validated by a real breakout.

Hi guys,
today morning I had one trade with small loss of 3 pips but will not publish it because was a little stupid and was not the way I usually trade.
I got some time in the afternoon which is not my favorite time for trading but was really successful.
Got 2 trades, very similar, took the second because I could draw really nice resistance line which went almost 2 hours back. Both setups were range breaks with price being squeezed by EMA20. I find this setup working really well and feel confident using it. Both TPs were 9pips an SL 7 pips.
Comments?


Fox

Well done.

Very bad day for me yesterday, 7 losses, just could not do anything right. Loss all the money I made in one week. I need to learn from it. Maybe quit trading for the day after 3 trades.