GB politics discussion thread

Hugely emotive subject with no easy answers - just questions.

Happened that back in the day my local MP was Enoch Powell - long story but he ended up here because the Tories ejected him.

Was he right in his predictions on immigration and rivers of blood?

My own opinion is that he was from a different time and era - bit like Alf Garnett in that we all laughed.

My next-door neighbour is from Poland - the only time I see him is Sunday for a few mins - rest of the time he is working.

There is a lot going on behind the scenes

UN Pushes To Criminalize Opposition To Mass Migration

The UN pushes the mantra that Sustainable Development is only possible in a multi-cultural society, which guarantees the elimination of the nation-state. However, immigration is only pushed toward First World countries, like Europe and the United States. ⁃ TN Editor

Levers Of Power

In a press conference, de Graaff raised the alarm over an international conference in Marrakech, Morocco on Dec. 11 and 12 where the U.N. Global Compact for Safe, Orderly and Regular Migration is to be signed. Though the pact is said to be non-binding, it is meant to establish the groundwork for an Orwellian campaign to cement mass migration as a human right legally above any and all criticism.

“One basic element of this new agreement is the extension of the definition of hate speech,” de Graaff says. “The agreement wants to criminalize migration speech. Criticism of migration will become a criminal offense. Media outlets that give room to criticism of migration can be shut down.”


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There is a difference between a country’s power and the world’s power, where countries agree to follow even if it means their demise.

The solution that seems simple to fix for a country’s government is not so simple when they follow the rules of another powerful entity

In the last 50 years, despite all the cries about mass immigration and all the politicians on both sides of the isle who came and went, stopping mass immigration never received the support or backing it needed to change course. you guys never thought about that.

As a matter of fact, it has gotten worse

Also, you have the scenario where you made your own bed and now you have to lie in it. Clearly, mass immigration to the west has been reshaping these countries and is so difficult to stop

Remember, humans first appeared on earth 4 billion years ago, and the world never stops shifting

The end of the Conservative Party ?

Note "Sunak Bump"

"The Beginning of the End - YouTube

AND - know what ?

I don’t care !

Note for Americans - We use RED for "Commies"

When it comes to immigration, there are a lot of factors at play

UK Pork Producer Flies in Filipino Butchers to Replace Lost EU Workers

(Bloomberg) – One of the UK’s biggest pork producers has spent £4 million ($4.8 million) hiring butchers from the Philippines, after a staffing crisis threatened to hamper production.

Until Britain voted to leave the European Union, 65% of Cranswick’s workers in the UK came from central Europe. That number has since plunged. Last year, the staff shortage was so severe that Cranswick had 25% fewer staff than required at its processing plants in areas such as Hull, northern England, and Norfolk, eastern England.

The Carefully Calculated Mass Migration Agenda

UN immigration official: Use migration to undermine European national homogeneity.

Please read the full report and let me know what you think

Making migration work for all - Report of the Secretary-General United Nations

The report focuses on making migration work for all, emphasizing its links to the 2030 Agenda for Sustainable Development. The report highlights: (a) options for Member States to help migrants fulfil their economic and social potential; (b) steps to promote regular migration; and (c) policies to meet the legitimate security considerations of Member States concerning irregular migration. It also explores the specific challenges arising from large mixed movements of migrants and refugees.

13. We must also show respect for communities that fear they are “losing out because of migration. While there is powerful evidence that migrants are of significant benefit to both their host countries and their countries of origin, we cannot be blind to citizens’ perceptions and concerns. Communities blighted by inequality and economic deprivation frequently blame migration for their troubles. While it is necessary to explain why such views are mistaken, it is essential to address the underlying vulnerabilities and fears of all citizens so that we can make migration work

Could it be that the State lied to us ?

"No more deals !" - We’ll see

"He's back! - YouTube

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If it seems like governments across the Western world are engaged in a frantic effort to force as many immigrants from less developed countries into American and European cities as possible, it’s because they are.

Canada raises immigration targets, aims for 500,000 new immigrants per year by 2025

Immigration Minister Sean Fraser revealed the new targets Tuesday, saying the move is necessary to ensure Canada’s economic prosperity.

The Establishment are officially Laughing at us !

"Grooming Area Rotherham Named ‘Children’s Capital Of Culture’ 😡 - YouTube


At Least the BBC have not shown Pakistani Muslims in their staged Photo !

Immigration is an emotive subject - filled with human labels and their connotations.

To be a “Republican” in the US is a respected label, yet in the UK has a different meaning. As Falstaff points out to be “Red” or “Blue” over here has the exact opposite meaning as in America.

The “migrant” label likewise is used in the same way as the “boat people” label back in the 80’s


Credit: Nathalie Robin

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For millions of years mass migration has been occurring, It’s part of our nature

Mass Migrations across the World-System’s History

Moving has been an essential human characteristic since the beginning of history. From the worldwide expansion of hominids departing from Africa 40.000 million years ago to the actual massive migrations of populations, humans have demonstrated that settling is as intrinsic to our nature as it is changing our residence.

Mass migration

Immigration from Europe accounted for about 40% of the total United States population growth in the late 19th century. It has been argued that the term should include other mass migrations that occurred in the same period since similarly, large numbers of people migrated long distances within the continent of Asia, most notably during the Pakistan Movement and the subsequent partition of India in 1947.[

For millions of years, cultures with distinct identities and characteristics have been occurring, it’s part of our nature, etc etc etc.

Every culture have distinct identities and characteristics, that has not stop mass migration


Jusk ask the Native Americans, or the Australian Aboriginals. The fact that they once had very distinct cultures, with their own identities and unique characteristics, did not stop mass migration from Europe totally destroying those cultures and the people who belonged to those cultures.

Mass migration has always happened. No questioning that. Why even make such an obvious point actually, unless you were trying to infer that it isn’t anything to be concerned about, just because it has always happened?

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Just pointing out mass migration always happens, not that there is never a problem, but it has happened in many forms both good and bad, like what you stated, and in forced migration, doing slavery.

The question now is why is mass migration such a big topic, Is it because of what you stated, and now that this is happening in western countries?

Because the West once had a distinct culture and identities, with unique characteristics that one could argue was worth preserving. But those cultures are being destroyed, with the full intent of those who are making sure mass migration happens.