Going offshore to escape the CFTC

Good question, Martin

Why don’t you ask Tallinex?

Very bad news .There is something very deceitful /deceiving happening . Capital City Markets traders better be made aware. Everyway I tried to get to Tallinex , through email , through search , through other websites , it goes nowhere unable to contact them through their website.
This is all it shows every time :
Tallinex does not solicit residents of the United States of America, Canada, Puerto Rico, Guam, American Samoa, Northern Mariana Islands, US Virgin Islands, United States Minor Outlying Islands or St Vincent and The Grenadines in relation to the provision of retail Forex services, and no option exists for residents of those countries to apply for retail Forex services due to regulatory requirements.

Tallinex works fine when you use non US IP

tried to withdraw my meager account balance from CCM and got this reply:

As you may or may not be aware, recent developments with our payment service provider has caused us to request clients to create charge back requests via their bank / credit union / card issuer for the initial card deposit amount.

In the light of recent events with our card processor, we advise you to make a chargeback in your bank for the following card deposits with CCM:

Card deposit (xxxx) 2017/xx/xx 18:xx:xx Deposit USD - US Dollar xxx.xx

As a result in accordance to the below email, the withdrawal request cannot be processed.

At first when I made the withdrawal request yesterday, my trading balance showed zero in MT4, so I thought MAYBE it would happen. But got this email and balance still reads zero - so truly gone at this point. Criminal!

I had no problem connecting to Tallinex website a few weeks ago from in the US !

There is no doubt about it Capital City Markets should be criminally investigated !
No matter how supposed intelligently CCM tries to write up their fake reasons for stealing every ones money , something very suspect is going on . Wake up !!!

I think we’re all very woke on this matter. Just reporting the latest info so everyone has information to work with. I’ve been around forex long enough to know that this is an all too probably occurance, so I’m never risking more than I can afford to lose. I wish we had decent domestic US options that offered some image of protection, but alas we’re over nannied on these matters.

We are slowly giving up with the offshore brokers.
Now have only TW few accounts. Stil testing Oanda and so far so good no issues yet.
Also we thinking to start testing Forex.com.
Those are the only options in US. If you are net worth over 1 million US, there is also Interactive Brokers.

If you are not scalping you should be able to make money with the 2 brokers I mentioned. I know
the leverage is only 1:50 and no hedging.
But most of the people i follow for years that are profitable do not hedge and use leverage less that 1:50.:grinning:

I do find it interesting that when I google search Tallinex & click on the link to go to their home page, I am taken to page that looks this… attached below.

This is a relatively recent change as I used to be able to at least “see” their homepage, even tho I wouldn’t be accepted as a US client.

I suppose it’s possible that the US gvt is requiring brokers who don’t work with US residents to link this as their homepage for all US IP addresses. That pretty much shuts down any chance of a US resident even enquiring about an account.

Tallinex is getting sued that is why I think they changed the website for US. I am wondering if they will show up to court. I believe it is in UTAH.

Can you post a link to that fact, please ? I’m interested in reading more about it.

Never mind, I found it… that’s disappointing.
:pensive:

Yeah, re: Tallinex, I contacted their website from my Amsterdam
VPS and of course that passes its IP filtering…

I am glad I did not use Capital City Markets but it was for reasons
of Spread and Commission costs which I told them were not
competitive. I was lucky !!

hyperscalper

How can a regulatory committee sue someone else in another country that has different country laws…? A man in one place says do what he says and another man elsewhere says do what I say or else, Smh. This is why I believe in natural law.

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Update on FinProTrading Live performance:

Market orders are marked as such.
Close orders are not marked, but I annotated some of of them, guess
I should be more explicit…(note to self…)
These are Orders in the EUR/JPY pair…

But you can see the general consistency of performance, which
I find very good !! We execute multiple position closures in
parallel also…

From a Technical perspective, FinProTrading is top of the list,
I believe… Unless somebody has something better with MT4.

Please ignore anything which is less than about 50 milliseconds,
since that is most likely not “real”…

[20171026-16:57:27.652(GMT)] OrderOp elapsed: 178
[20171026-16:57:30.840(GMT)] Sell Market OrderOp elapsed: 131
[20171026-16:58:29.996(GMT)] OrderOp elapsed *: 38
[20171026-16:59:20.668(GMT)] OrderOp elapsed *: 10
[20171026-16:59:20.824(GMT)] OrderOp elapsed: 146
[20171026-17:13:17.637(GMT)] Buy Market OrderOp elapsed: 172
[20171026-17:15:27.137(GMT)] OrderOp elapsed *: 2
[20171026-17:15:27.262(GMT)] OrderOp elapsed: 110 <-- Close position
[20171026-17:38:59.184(GMT)] Sell Market OrderOp elapsed: 205
[20171026-17:39:49.199(GMT)] OrderOp elapsed *: 9
[20171026-17:39:49.355(GMT)] OrderOp elapsed: 154 <–Close position
[20171026-17:41:02.887(GMT)] Sell Market OrderOp elapsed: 174
[20171026-17:41:46.621(GMT)] Sell Market OrderOp elapsed: 186
[20171026-17:42:41.074(GMT)] OrderOp elapsed: 81
[20171026-17:44:02.184(GMT)] OrderOp elapsed *: 32
[20171026-17:44:02.293(GMT)] OrderOp elapsed: 109
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[20171026-17:44:02.449(GMT)] OrderOp elapsed: 80
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[20171026-17:45:52.355(GMT)] Buy Market OrderOp elapsed: 186
[20171026-17:46:37.668(GMT)] Buy Market OrderOp elapsed: 137
[20171026-17:47:18.762(GMT)] OrderOp elapsed *: 10
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[20171026-17:47:19.309(GMT)] OrderOp elapsed: 543
[20171026-17:47:19.324(GMT)] OrderOp elapsed: 556
[20171026-17:48:00.418(GMT)] Sell Market OrderOp elapsed: 165
[20171026-17:48:37.277(GMT)] OrderOp elapsed *: 13
[20171026-17:48:37.449(GMT)] OrderOp elapsed: 162
[20171026-17:49:40.418(GMT)] Buy Market OrderOp elapsed: 154
[20171026-17:49:46.840(GMT)] OrderOp elapsed *: 5
[20171026-17:49:46.980(GMT)] OrderOp elapsed: 130
[20171026-19:05:46.312(GMT)] Buy Market OrderOp elapsed: 154
[20171026-19:08:18.281(GMT)] OrderOp elapsed: 100
[20171026-19:08:27.203(GMT)] OrderOp elapsed *: 76
[20171026-19:08:27.297(GMT)] OrderOp elapsed: 86
[20171026-19:08:44.906(GMT)] Buy Market OrderOp elapsed: 173
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[20171026-19:48:09.215(GMT)] Buy Market OrderOp elapsed: 720
[20171026-19:48:21.855(GMT)] Buy Market OrderOp elapsed: 185
[20171026-19:53:48.246(GMT)] OrderOp elapsed *: 6
[20171026-19:53:48.418(GMT)] OrderOp elapsed: 165
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hyperscalper

Im wondering now after seeing this enlightnning new info about Tallinex. If Capital City Markets really did get the money , but on the verge of being sued , so made a deal with payment provider to say they never got the money so then they can say they never had US traders and not get sued
??? See , get it ??? So if they (CCM ) say its complicated , lol , if this is the real truth ,yea is dam complicated !

We withdrew over 10K from CCM by wire right after our accounts were transferred.

Conspiracy theories don’t help; Clint can help
us stick to the facts only. Pleez, Clint !!! :slight_smile:

hyperscalper

have anyone tried to do the charge back like CCM suggest, i think the payment processor did get rob them, i just wonder what action CCM is taking against the payment processor

[quote=“HyperScalper, post:4790, topic:35612, full:true”]

Conspiracy theories don’t help.[/quote]

I agree. Let’s avoid creating fake facts.

In particular, let’s not confuse CCM with Tallinex.

According to Tallinex, there is no continuing business relationship of any kind between the two brokers. When Tallinex came under attack by the U.S. authorities – culminating in the SUIT mentioned above – Tallinex transferred the accounts of all of their U.S. clients to CCM. No business relationship existed between Tallinex and CCM prior to that transfer, and no business relationship has existed between them since the transfer.

At the time of the transfer, as Tallinex was in the process of severing all ties with the U.S. market, the choice of CCM (as opposed to some other broker) was a matter of convenience for Tallinex.

Therefore, CCM is not a party to the U.S. government’s suit against Tallinex.

And so far, CCM is not a target of the U.S. government on their own account.


[quote=“HyperScalper, post:4790, topic:35612, full:true”]

Clint can help us stick to the facts only. Pleez, Clint !!! :slight_smile: [/quote]

I don’t have many facts to stick to. Like all of you, I’m waiting for facts.

Specifically, I’m waiting to hear from members of this forum who are clients of CCM whether they have had any success in retrieving their lost deposits; and I’m waiting to hear from CCM that they have established a relationship with a reputable PSP, and have taken steps to ensure that this sort of deposit problem will not happen again in the future.


There is one thing I can add to the discussion at this time – the email reply which I received from CCM (which I initially said that I would not post).

Very early on Tuesday, October 24, I sent an email to CCM in which I made several statements and asked several questions. I posted that email HERE.

A few hours later, CCM replied to my email, refuting the statements I had made, and offering answers to my questions. I posted HERE that I had received the CCM email, and that I would not be posting it here in this thread at the present time.

I have changed my mind about that. Below is a copy of CCM’s reply to my email.

Note the last paragraph of their reply, in which they allude to the conspiracy-theory issue – although they don’t use that term. Also note that the abbreviation PSP in the CCM email stands for “payment services provider”.

Here is that email –


I mentioned in THIS POST the possibility of placing a WARNING on the Capital City Markets listing in The Offshore Broker List, but I said that I considered it premature (at that time).

In view of the fact that we might be looking at months before some of our members are able to resolve their deposit problems with CCM, I think a WARNING is appropriate, and I will add it this weekend.