Going offshore to escape the CFTC

Might be better to create a discord group or similar, to cover multiple topics that are relative to American traders. Just not sure how many people would be keen on joining. Maybe conduct a poll.

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Fxchoice and Eaglefx are both very good

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Something like “Trading as a US citizen”…

I’m picturing a discussion and comparison of the tools we have available to make a living as traders in the USA with less than 10 million dollars.
All of the following would be fair game;
Forex Offshore
Forex Domestic
Binary Options
Futures
Stocks
Crypto

We could leave this thread as pure Offshore discussion.

Hyperscalper, if people want to discuss their trading strategies they certainly could. I don’t think anyone would complain about someone sharing a profitable system! :slight_smile:

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OK, friend, how about this post ?

:slight_smile:

hyperscalper

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Looking at the carry trade… usd/jpy or chf, here are the brokers that I have accounts with in order of best rates…

#1 FXChoice
#2 LQDFX
#3 Cryptorocket/Hugosway
#4 Tradersway
#5 Coinexx/TurnkeyFX

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Thanks for the answer MrInvisible. Lately I put a lot of time into this, it is not so easy to get the numbers for some brokers. There are even comparisons online, but some brokers do not give out information on the web. So I have to chat with them to get information. There is even a case where I had to register a demo account as live chat said he cannot give but I can see it in MT4 so I need to register…

I must say my situation is a little easier as I can register with any broker and in many cases the best carry trade is given by the here called “onshore” brokers.

The trick is however, onshore brokers have the best carry trades but in many cases you cannot get good leverage at all so in the end a worse carry trade with more leverage might still be the better solution. Especially as I have seen that it has been a case that a broker has different leverage (200:1) during the weekdays and a lot worse (60:1) leverage for the weekend. This fact really messes up things.

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CLOSEOPTION BINARY MULTIPLE ACCOUNTS

These outfits usually stipulate you can have only a
SINGLE account, and that they’ll ban you if they
discover otherwise.

I begged them, insisting I wanted 2 accounts; one for
options <1 hour duration and the other for options
which are >1 hour out to 30 days expiration durations.

Very reluctantly they agreed to allow me to open a
second account. With the exception that the system
would
not allow me to use the same phone number ( I used
my second line), it worked smoothly. [edit] I opened
a second email for the second account, as that would
probably have been a conflict also, with the existing
account.

[EDIT] I repeat that this company, CloseOption requires
KYC identification, but is very friendly to U.S. traders.
So it’s all above board and, as I’ve also said, they
appear honest, and their system execution is beyond
reproach in its accuracy. In other words, they don’t cheat :slight_smile:

They are amenable to some negotiation, and do have
good support for any issues.

[edit] I have been using LTC crypto (under their "Bitcoin"
umbrella of funding choices) but noticed it is not
available
so I asked their support and they said it
was only temporarily unavailable. They use a 3rd
party for a wide range of crypto funding choices, and it
has always been very smooth.

I consider this Binary Option broker to be a valuable
tool for high volatility News Event trades, as well as
in a number of other ways in the underlying Forex market.

hyperscalper

i don’t think there are any interest in option trading in this thread

@SmallPaul - Difficult to say. I suspect that most readers of this thread are lurking in the shadows, and we may likely never hear from them.

I would like to state, as a sort of soft word of caution to @HyperScalper, however, that you might want to start including some disclaimer in your posts just to cover yourself, in the off-chance that things do not work out.

You have already stated that you are not associated with any of the binary brokers that you are advocating, but I personally would not want to deal with any splash-back, should someone try to make some bold claims about you. It is just a matter of avoiding the inconvenience, I suppose.

I only say this because I have been in a similar situation with a cryptocurrency ICO, and although I knew that I would be fine, it did not feel nice having to deal with the accusations and threats. Intelligence is not something that is equally-dispersed, evidently, and it can be a difficult task trying to reason with crazy people holding pitchforks. :smile:

the title of this thread will draw like minded so i don’t think traders are looking to talk about option trading in this thread

EDIT: i think a topic like option trading does need it’s own thread

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What would I want to disclaim?

When I talk about using CloseOption Binaries, I’m talking about
FOREX trading, which is my main focus.

When I use it, I’m trading a FOREX prediction, but simply using
the 1) precision, and/or 2) the risk management features
of the Binary platform.

U.S. persons (which is the focus of this thread) can freely access
this broker, and can do so with KYC and good support.

But, as should be obvious, I am a U.S. FOREX trader, so
any tool I could recommend which helps FOREX traders
to succeed (like an option platform with a FOREX underlying)
is fair game, I think :slight_smile:

Y’all can take or leave my suggestions but here comes
my DISCLAIMER : I don’t get kickbacks from brokers.

[EDIT] by the way… many of you could be asking why
doesn’t hyper mention NADEX, which has Forex underlying
contracts, right? Well, NADEX, in my view, offers a
very poor, and overly complex product which offers
very poor pricing and would certainly require a huge
learning curve. But, if you are using NADEX over
underlying FOREX, and it’s working for you; then
that’s fine. It’s just that NADEX is not a platform
which I’d generally recommend… :frowning:

[EDIT] CloseOption Binaries have essentially
no learning curve at all. Except that you must
designate an expiration timeframe for your
predicted price move. Other than that, it’s the
very simplest of all propositions, and for volatile
events
such as News Events, it is just grrreat
as Tony the Tiger used to say ! LOL :rofl:

hyperscalper

@HyperScalper - I do not mean to step on any toes. I am only looking out for my fellow traders. Truth-be-told, having a disclaimer may not matter much. It has been my experience that people will believe whatever they want. Unfortunately, if things go south, some people may quickly forget about all of those warnings and disclaimers and start cherry-picking things out of context etc…

@SmallPaul - Regarding options trading, I would not be quick to assume that anyone that finds this thread may have no interest in it. Personally, I was interested at first, but decided that it was not for me. No harm, no foul.

We all share similar issues with regard to trading, due to regulatory pressure and legal jurisdiction. Whether we are trading forex, crypto or something else, it is all relative; the same issues that are caused by the CFTC and other regulatory groups are still present. Having an open forum to discuss our options is important. I think that the focus on Forex may simply be due to the fact that this forum is geared towards that, but at the end of the day, we are all trying to take control of our own money and invest it where we choose, preferably, without the regulatory limitations that have been placed on us.

I am thankful for this thread, personally, and welcome any discussion that is helpful, whether it relates to me or not. If I see something that I am not interested in, I can simply choose not to read it.

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if you had interest in option trading before that is why option trading needs it’s own thread and should be talk about there

Not really sure that I understand your point. Binary options trading still covers forex and faces similar regulatory restrictions imposed by the CFTC and other groups, so I do not see why discussion of brokers that offer such services should be prohibited here. Similarly, brokers that offer cryptocurrency trading can be discussed, some of which are already on the trusted list. Those same brokers may also offer trading of commodities, stocks and indices etc., so any opposition to the idea should be backed by sound, justifiable arguments, in my opinion.

yes some forex broker also offer other assets but there main focus is forex, Binary options brokers primary focus are Binary option which should have it’s own thread

BTW i lost focus this is a broker thread, my bad

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Dang, I feel the sting ! Yo, y’all keepin’ it real !! :slight_smile:

hyperscalper

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Hi Everyone, my very post here! First, let me just say this thread is amazing! I have been trading for about a year now and just found this about a month ago. Tons of great discussion that I wish I had found earlier.

My question is: has anyone used capitalstreetfx (New user, so I can’t include the link)

They say they take US residents, so I opened an account and they did indeed verify my documents. I have not yet deposited any money for trading though as I haven’t been able to find much discussion of them online. I found a few comments about them on forex peace army. Other than that though, I didn’t find much.

Any thoughts?

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Just use the trusted brokers from page 1. These are the brokers many of us have used and have great experiences with. The others on the list, although they accept US residents, either do not have positive feedback here or they simply lack enough of us using them to obtain the trusted broker label. if you go through the thread, you will find 4-5 that many of us use. It is best to spread your funds among at least 3 simply for risk mitigation purposes.

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I totally agree @grandpipmaster. Everyone should distribute their risk across many brokers. I have accounts with several of the “trusted brokers” labeled here and they are all great. I have also ventured into trading with some other brokers like AAFX, who I have been using them for 9 months without issue. (This is a broker that has been labeled a SCAM online.) They offer No Swaps on their fixed spread accounts, which I haven’t seen anywhere else other than with FXGlory. Those two features can be useful for some trades. For the vast majority of my activity, I use the trusted brokers, but I do like to experiment with others. Knowing it is risk of course.

I have spent some time on the CapitalStreetFX website, and I think this broker is worth serious vetting by members of this thread.

This broker

  • is registered in Mauritius
  • accepts clients from the U.S. (and just about everywhere else)
  • has a decent menu of trading instruments
  • has servers in New York, London, and Singapore
  • has a more complete FAQ on their website, than most other brokers
  • offers leverage of 150:1 on forex
  • and appears to have a proprietary trading platform (not MT4)

Spreads, swaps and commissions need to be looked at closely.

I did not chat with their (very persistent) Live Chat person, and I did not download their demo platform.
I was impressed with the well-written text on their website, and the details they provide in their FAQ.
I have added CapitalStreetFX to the Alphabetical List of Brokers at the top of this thread.

If any of you want to join in vetting this broker, please give us a report of your findings and your opinions.

grandpipmaster points out that we have a good stable of Trusted Brokers, and he implies that we don’t need to add new (and unknown) brokers to our List. I disagree with the part about new brokers. I think we should keep the doors open to new brokers for as long as this thread is alive.

What do the rest of you think?

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