I have this theory about never losing a trade when trading in mid market

Hey guys, I am a complete newbie, been watching Forex videos for the past few days.

I have this theory that if you trade in 1m, 5m, 15m, 1h, 4h and you just buy in the dips and sell in the highs, and if you are in the middle of the market range (say, the price always ranges between 1.05 and 1.35 but it is usually between 1.15 and 1.25), you can never lose a trade because it is almost guaranteed that the price will eventually go higher (or lower) to a level that will make your trade profitable.

Can someone with more experience elaborate on this?

Here is an illustration of what I mean.

In the image it seems that from 2004 to 2014 there has been a middle range in the market where price has always been coming back to - and if you always buy in the lows, you are 98% guaranteed that a high will come.

What do you think? Bear in mind that I am completely new with this.


There are a few things that are perennially true about price charts - trends tend to continue, though not in straight lines, and markets spend most of the time not trending, though not necessarily ranging.

Both these scenarios therefore offer very real and statistically positive opportunities for the trader. However, its also true that trends eventually end and price eventually enters a trend. So, both scenarios cannot persist indefinitely. The trend will end, the range will end. So, the problem comes when you buy the last dip in an uptrend, or buy the last bottom of a range.

Don’t be afraid of losing, the only way of not losing is to not trade.

The [B]problem[/B] here is that “never” and “almost guaranteed” are both exaggerations.

And the reason that matters (a lot!) is that if you adopt the philosophy of “if you wait for long enough it will eventually turn round”, your very occasional losers will be a real disaster (and might even wipe out your account).

The [B]underlying issue[/B] here is the fallacy that if you have a high enough win-rate, you’re necessarily destined to make profits.

Not only is this [B]not[/B] so, but if you look at beginners’ trading textbooks (such as those by Harris, Chande and Tharp, for example) you’ll find in many of them detailed explanations, sometimes with examples, of why in reality it’s a much more promising approach, for most aspiring traders, to develop and trade systems with win-rates in the region of 30-50% and to avoid anything much higher.

It’s counterintuitive: it takes quite a lot of experience to understand, but it’s generally right.

[I][U]Key concept[/U][/I]: win-rates aren’t really what matters. [B][U]Expectancy[/U][/B] is what matters. You need to be able to win more, collectively, from your winning trades than you lose, collectively, from your losing trades, [I]without having any disasters[/I].

Avoiding disasters, however occasional, is more important than maximising profits. Long-term, successful trading isn’t about profit maximisation: it’s about [U]risk management[/U].

Trading realities predicate that aiming specifically for a very high win-rate is generally misguided (counterintuitive and difficult to believe though this is).

Many of the observations in your post above are good and perfectly valid ones, and [I]most of the time[/I] you’ll be alright, but not [U]always[/U]. This is why you can’t in reality afford to hold on to positions for ever, and must let winners run and cut losers short. There has to be a point at which you say to yourself “My entry didn’t work out, this time”, and you need to decide in advance at what point that will be and make it your stop-loss level, on entering each trade. Otherwise you will, eventually, start having diasters. Those nasty “black swans” in the forex markets are becoming both more common and darker in colour (and there are reasons for that).

When I sit down at 8.30 every morning (or whatever time), my specific aim for the day isn’t “to make ‘x’ amount of money”; it isn’t even just “to make money” at all - it’s simply “to be able to sit down again at 8.30 the next morning and start trading in the same way”.

Edited to add: and welcome to the forum!

What does “funding your magin calls” mean?

Midmarket ( equilibrium) is the worst area to trade off or into.