INGOT'S RAINBOW ... A Position Trading Strategy

Just a quick “heads up” folks.

I have added a poll to the beginning of the thread, to help sort out the amount of interest and understanding in the trading community, about Position Trading.

Many traders are chasing the latest indicator ( and I do like some of them) but this has not been terribly helpful to their bottom line.

Some are also addicted to finding the best robotic trading ea available, and that too is ok.

But it is my belief that few traders have understood and really attempted to trade longer term, from an educated point of view.

You can select more than one option from the poll.

Best wishes

Ivan

What we are doing here is trading pull-backs in downtrends, over the longer time frames of 4H and Daily23/3. Because of the larger-size Stops Loss orders we need to protect a position, entry is very important though perfect entries should not be the ultimate goal.

The goal should be “safe” entries that may leave a few pips behind, but reduce our risk of draw-down.

But it is more important to identify the trend correctly.

And, looking from an even bigger perspective, we are finding and trading pairs that are in long term trends.

This means that:
we ignore currency pairs that do not exhibit nice trends;
we correctly locate SUPPORT and RESISTANCE levels;
we correctly identify the higher probability turning points following those pullbacks;
we place our entry into the market to capture the resumption of the longer term trend.

Doing this correctly on the higher time frame, from 4H to DAILY, will result in a larger number of pips, generally speaking, unless you are a skilled and competent Swing Trader, or Spot Trader, trading those styles.

But claiming a “larger number of pips” is going to hold true, only in the perspective of time spent at the computer.

This form of trading is called Position Trading, because there are times when we can get into longer-term trends that can last for months. And it can allow us to live a life outside of the computer screen.

In the EURAUD chart attached (first chart) it is clear that the trend that commenced on Monday 23rd March 2009 and ended with a serious rally on Wednesday 19th May 2010 was a Position Trader’s dream. Yes, I concede there were instances in this time, where stop-out occurred … quite a few, but then, opportunities to rejoin the trend came just as frequently.

The top-to-bottom move was worth between 5,000 and 5,700 pips, as a straight buy-and-hold event. But by faithfully taking stops, and re-entering might have caused this yield to increase perhaps another 20%. I do not know - I didn’t trade it, and I haven’t gone back over it meticulously enough to calculate this … it is a generalisation over that 14 month period.

Don’t miss the point that there was a serious opportunity there, and that the SAME opportunities exist even now, in one of the worst choppy markets I have seen.

I have refined the appearance of my charts for simplicity. In the second attachment, I show how the removal of the Rainbow-look, replacing it with a monochrome-look, enable traders to highlight a specific MA, allowing more accurate trade management. For example, some like the 35 EMA as a strategic indication of Support and Resistance, and I have highlighted this EMA in red. Simply select and change the colour as desired.

The other streamlining is the change to te MTF Stochastic appearance … also now in Monochrome, with the 14.1.3 stochastic now red. I find this setup less distracting Of course you may customise to your own tastes.

The charts attached should be self-explanatory. I am trying a different way to annotate my charts, so hopefully these will appear clearly once posted.

EDIT: I apologise for the poor quality of the charts … I will experiment with a better format. The problem occurs through the difficulty I have of drawing lines on MT4 charts, and using screen-shots instead. If anyone knows how to draw lines/arrows on MT4 charts, I would appreciate the heads-up on that.

Best wishes

Ivan



Just posting a chart to see if I can improve the quality of visuals.

The chart is SILVER - 4Hour - from August 2010, showing the great uptrend.

I have changed the 35EMA to red for illustration, and the image has been save straight from the chart as a .gif.

In the next day or so I hope to flip through my charts and come up with a live trade entry, if there is one.

I don’t want the thread to become all hot air and no balloon … :slight_smile: … so if there is an opportunity for a trade, let’s focus on one.

Best wishes

Ivan


I offer my apologies for anyone following this thread - I am unable to continue due to personal circumstances.

Hopefully at some time in the future the idea can be resurrected … perhaps in a new thread.

But for now I have to leave the discussion to anyone who has an ability to manage position trading … if they wish to carry it forward.

Thanks to those who have participated and patiently waited for the end of the story. It may never be told … but hopefully I will be able to complete what has been started when/if circumstances allow.

I would urge anyone who has not been able to make short-term trading work for them, to consider moving up to longer term trading ie the 4H and Dailies … focusing on just one pair.

Patience is required … and a desire to succeed … few make it.

Best wishes

Ivan

Loved the thread over which I’ve spent the last several hours pouring, and that I plan to re-read. Ivan/Ingot is right about direction - he was prophetic about the direction of authority vs. humanity in his country, and the world - when he wrote back several years ago. Let’s pray that more and more people/sheeple wake up so that enough of us are awake and the ship can be turned around - back to entrepreneurship, unmodified food, clean air, and life.

I missed the explanation in some detail about why the rainbow effect is useful as well as beautiful. As others wrote, the use of stochastics is clear in this system.

I’m a big fan of the MAs rainbow, and to be honest, not so much of the stochastic threads. So I may have a good tip for MAs rainbow traders here…

[B]Moderators, kindly let me know if I’m not allowed to post links to other forums. They’re not commercial, so I don’t see any issues posting them here, as they will only help traders, and for free.[/B]

There’s a guy - 7bit - who developed this brilliant concept. The anti-grid. All the credit goes to him, for an outstanding work.

Please, PLEASE, READ at least 3 times the official page, so you can understand the concept before shooting questions that you could find the answers there.

It will take some time until you grasp the concept, so don’t be lazy, spend some time reading all you can about the concept on the other 2 links as well. I suggest taking at least a week to read/study the method, to fully understand how it works.

This way of trading fits the “rainbow trading” like a glove. All you need to do is to follow the wave direction, and tell the anti-grid to trade accordingly.

I’ve been using daily charts to trade the rainbow, with the anti-grid strategy configured to 50 pips and 1 take profit level, on several pairs. Also, there is a semi-automatic EA so you don’t need to be glued to your screen all the time. It’s a set and forget EA, until the next opportunity shows up. So read the concept page to understand how it works, as it’s not straight forward for the most of us.

IMO, the fastest way to learn how it operates after understanding the concept is running dozens of visual backtests.

I hope I’ve helped.

snowballs and the anti-grid (official page)
snowballs and the anti-grid (thread)
Trading the anti-grid with the snowball EA (journal)

PS.: In order to trade live, I’d suggest hiring a VPS service to make sure the EA will work 100% of the time. This will avoid computer/MT4 crashes, lack of power or internet down.

Regards,

Beto.

Hi

I’m new to trading daily charts and came across this thread. I have read the thread through with extreme interest and wondered if anyone is still trading this and what success they have had?

Thanks

I am trading the system as a Newbie. I am starting to look for places to pyramid, thinking that Murrey lines may be suited to that.

Whaddya mean “Newbiie” ? - You’ve been here since 2008 !

Thass longer than “Martin” has been trading !

Newbie to Ingot’s Rainbow…