Mactrader0712 here new to Babypips

Been trading for a couple of years. Self-learning from past costly mistakes. Blown up my account twice which is painful lessons but have learned from them. Been interested in stocks since the lows of the great recession. Always will to learn new systems or ways of trading.

These days I use the 20 day moving average and short term exponential moving averages above or below as they pull the 20 day moving from Bearish to Bullish or back to Bearish. Using the 5 day exponential moving average cross the 12 day exponential moving average to keep me on the right side of trades. And the RSI 14 as to when its way over brought to start taking money off the table.

Some things I have learned is price has memory and past resistance and support areas play a big part. Those areas are not exact pinpoint price’s but areas of previous areas of support and resistance.

Now a days is if I see a new trader willing to learn is I try to tell them. Don’t use real money until you learn and have a system that you can win more times that not.

Use RSI 10 as a trend continuing indicator only. Above 50=Bullish. Below 50=Bearish. Trades can stay in over-bought/over-sold for weeks - which is not a reason for taking money off the table.

Otherwise, a simple but effective strategy, If you’re gaining consistent profits, carry on. Best of luck for 2022.

Thank you and I will give that Rs 10 a try . Merry Christmas to you and your family.

Hi @Mactrader0712 - It was interesting to read your post!

I trade an almost identical approach to you using a combination of both shorter and longer term EMAs to keep with the changes in the move directions. I use slightly different values but the concept is the same.

I also use the 14 RSI but only watching for crossings of the 50 line as confirmation of what is happening with the short term EMAs. I don’t use the OB / OS levels on the RSI but I agree with your approach of using these as an indication when it is worth scaling out a bit (but not reversing positions).

I also identify historic S/R zones on the longer term charts to help define targets and stop levels.

I use this approach on 4-hour charts for currencies and 1-hour charts for indices.

This has been my core approach for many years and I have found it to be very stable and consistent. However, I would add that I use it as a discretionary method and apply my own judgement when to apply it. For example, avoiding entries prior to key releases, weekends, national holidays, elections, and so on.

I would also add that deciding direction is only 25% of any trade’s consideration. There are also the issues of 1) when to enter, 2) when/where to take profit and 3) when/where to stop out if wrong.

Risk and money management are just as important as direction and are essential pre-requisites in optimising this approach.

All the best to you for the New Year and I look forward to hearing more of how you are doing with this simple, solid, stable, sensible trading method! :smiley:

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Thank you SovoS.
I have in the past used different type of systems and this seems to work most of the time but like with all stocks the bottom can fall out at any time. I’m always looking and other’s that post systems or ideas. Add about 100’s and 100’s of charts that people have posted on different forums, twitter, stocks twits, forexfactory , forexstrategiesresources , stockcharts.com and a few others. One thing I have found is the vast knowledge of past posts in forums using the search.

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You are certainly right that price can move adversely very quickly. And this is why we need to be very clear which tools are appropriate for which problems…

Any system/method/approach can only do what it is specifically designed to do. And most of the time we only look at trading methods for three purposes: which direction, where to get in, and where to get out. And, as you say, there are thousands of variations of these methods, all of which work some of the time - but not all of the time!

But none of these can resolve the problem that "like with all stocks the bottom can fall out at any time." Why? Because we are using the wrong tool for the job. This is work for our risk/money management tool, not our method tool.

It is a common, and understandable, reaction whenever our method fails, to seek additional indicators or PA techniques to try and “plug the holes” in our method which seem to be suddenly letting in the water and sinking our ship. We will never achieve a totally watertight ship because the sea will always, at times, do the unpredictable. If we knew what that was then it would no longer be unpredictable.

But the good news is, we don’t need to know when or where the unpredictable will occur.

Firstly, we need to understand and accept that what we are trading is “probability”. This means what we are trying to identify is the “likely but not always” nature of where price will go next.

Identifying likely direction is possibly the easiest part of trading. Whereas knowing where to exit a trade is possibly the hardest part of trading. And this is where we need to apply our risk/money management rules.

There are three parts to any price chart:

  1. where the price has been
  2. where the price is now
  3. where will price go next

And we only know parts 1 and 2 which we see looking to the left on our chart. But we cannot know part 3 which is looking to the right on our chart.

So it is therefore easy to realise that whilst our trading method can identify the most probable next direction, it is always only based on extrapolating from parts 1 and 2, whichever method we use. And simply seeking for more variations on the method will not change this basic fact.

The fact that the future is unknown means that we are left with an “if-then” element in our trading decisions. Once our method has given the direction and we enter the trade we also need to know the two “if-then” solutions: If price goes in the right direction then where do we get out? And if price goes in the wrong direction then where do we get out?

This is where we need to remember that our overall consistency in trading is NOT conditional on each, individual trade. Rather, it is the sum result of all our trades over time.

This leads to the need to analyse the success rate of our method in combination with our normal profit size and stoploss size. This is then overlaid with risk analysis of our choice of position size and possibly scaling in and out of positions.

In summary, I guess most methods/systems work some of the time. But whether we can use them to consistently produce a net profit over time is more a function of our risk/money management - and this is the area that is so often neglected. Instead we tend to just move on from one method to another, or look for more indicators and lines and shapes and candles to hook onto our existing method…

Trading is not so difficult once we learn which tools to use for which purpose :slight_smile:

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its a very good description with good information , got so many fine lines , thanks for your nice post.

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True - Trading is not so difficult once we learn which tools to use for which purpose :slight_smile:


It is a process that each people who wants to trade goes through.