Making money on Forex - what's the catch?

tl:dr the question is what’s the catch, why does forex trading look like an ‘easy’ way to make money.
edit: reading back through this I don’t want to come across as though I’m saying “gosh this is easy I’ll start trading tomorrow”! I mean I’m finding it logical and it makes sense so far, so I want some other peoples perspectives :slight_smile:

[B]Hello all, [/B]I’ve been investigating Forex trading for a couple weeks, and am in Pipschool and running a demo account through Commsec (Commonwealth Bank Australia). I’m currently “making” a lot of money on the demo and trading seems quite easy. So I come asking what’s the catch? What am I missing?

Bit of background. I’ve done statistics at University, and my partner has degrees in business and economics. We like statistics and curves and numbers. Having a degree in Psychology and in fact having been in therapy for a few years I understand more than most how to keep my head in check, so the emotional side of trading shouldn’t be a big problem either, or at least not one I can’t work through. My career is technical - IT systems engineering so I know how to handle stress :stuck_out_tongue:

The commsec account is set to $20K and it wouldn’t be too hard for me to get that much money together in the next 6 months unencumbered. I’m not in Forex to make a million, I’m making around $500-1000+ a day in profit in the demo which is more than enough for my goals. I’ll hold something for between 12-36 hours on average.

I’m journalling my trades, my thoughts, writing down my trading ideas and what works and doesn’t work, and I’m using stops to limit losses, and generally paying very good attention in pipschool and the forums. I’ve lost $2K in one trade and it hurt but statistically I know I’ll win over time. Don’t get me wrong it hasn’t all been up, I’ve lost $3,300 whilst trading and I still made enough to satisfy me. So I feel like it would be reasonable for me to assume that with 20K of real money, more trading history and experience under my belt, and some more pipschoolage that I’d be able to average these kind of returns each week.

Why does this look relatively easy to do? I know two weeks isn’t a good enough sample size but I’m eager to find out what I’m missing. Have I just been “lucky”? As a cynical person I know there’s no get rich quick button or magic financial bullet, and while I don’t think Forex trading is one of those, it looks like something I could leverage. So cynical me is currently waiting for the “ahhhh there’s the catch” moment. Please point it out if you can see it.

I’m a wordy bugger so if you got this far I like you :smiley:

It seems easy right now because your trading fake money. When you start trading real money you begin to add emotions to your trading. Then it’s not very easy.

Thanks for the feedback. I went on a reading bender last night again - worked out a potential couple catches for me which is great so I can adjust my trading as needed.

  1. I’m risking too much capital per trade. It’s working for my trading style right now, but if I have a few bad trades in a row it would be bad :stuck_out_tongue: I can minimise this by better charting and predicting I suppose.
  2. Emotions - yep. I haven’t seen everything come crashing down, so I don’t know if it’ll send me into a panic mode. I’m currently losing a lot on a trade - and if it doesn’t pick up soon I’ll be out several thousand so I’m currently exploring as best I can how that would feel in real money.

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Demo is easy because orders never reach the real market. They are sent to some server for separate book keeping. The real market reacts 100% differently. This is the banks territory, and they will run in both sides to kick 80% of traders out of their positions. Take care.

Trading with real money is nothing like demo as far as I know. So my suggestion is to go ahead and open up a live account and start trading nano lots. If you’ve already managed to pull in more gains than losses on demo. Try applying same strategies as you’re doing on demo on your account. And see what happens. Then you’ll know. Forex isn’t as easy as it seems. I’ve seen/heard people from impressive schools with impressive degrees failing at forex. So your background doesn’t necessarily determine if you’ll make it in forex.

What’s the catch ? Not everyone has what it takes to be a consistently profitable trader I think. So the only way to find out is to try it out yourself with real money.

Hope that helped !

Still, 500 to 1000 a day you are on the right track.

+1 to pretty much everything said about emotions.
If $20,000 isn’t an astonishing amount of capital to you, I’d say test the market with a couple hundred dollars in a live account. Trade for 4 or 5 months straight, and re-evaluate.

I think success in demo trading is not really indicator for success in real trading. You should try with small investment in real trading and you will find the catch easily. Hope this help.

Tomalt,

The Dark Knight is right - real money is a whole different kettle of fish. I try to use only 10% of my equity (over all my trades not just on one :)) tempting as it may be to use more!

You need to have good charts and learn to use them before even contemplating using real money.

Stay in your demo as long as you can and learn which indicators are best suited to you i.e. I personally use bollingers (1,2 & 3 deviation) Parabolic Sars, Fibs, 10 & 200 moving averages, trend lines and MACD but you may find that too cluttered. I am not sure what charts to Commonwealth Bank offers but I find MT4 charts provide me with what I need (these can be opened in a demo and kept in background)

Hope this helps and may you succeed in your future trading