that's a fair comment
yes you should, but i think the problem is two fold
1. the Main issue starts with the trader and that they start trading forex thinking it's a get rich quick thing, with not much effort required.
Hypothetically, if they started, super committed, it wouldn't be as much of an issue, but they don't.
then you have the fee that is required for training to cover the cost of the person training them.
which is understandable . Everyone has to be compensated for their time.
but again, here the problem is they expect it to be super cheap and to make riches beyond their wildest dreams
sadly it doesn't work like that.
so.. get help.. YES
my suggestion is ... pick up bits and pieces of knowledge where you can for free, instead of getting one mentor to show you everything
i believe getting inputs from multiple people is better than getting an entire course from 1 person.
another Point... NO
you should change what you are doing, because it's obviously not working.
ok, ASSUMING THE 5% ARE HONEST AND ARE WILLING TO WORK FOR PEANUTS.. YES, IT'S LOGICAL
but they are not
you gotta understand this... i'm gonna say something now.. IT'S GONNA UPSET PEOPLE, but it's the truth
the guys that know how to trade . SEE THE NEWBIES AS IDIOTS AND STUPID, because FOR THE MOST PART THEY ARE (not all of them are) but around 99.9% are
and that being the case, it is clear they will not succeed . so. here is what happens.
and here is why you get so many scam courses
since the newbies won't succeed and they WILL LOSE THEIR MONEY , the course providors figure logically. WELL. WE SHOULD BE THE ONE TO TAKE THEIR MONEY BEFORE SOMEONE ELSE DOES
i mean.. the end result is the same , they still end up broke,
but why not have them give their money to us before they go broke
THAT'S HOW THE MAJORITY OF THEONES THAT KNOW HOW TO TRADE THINK
newbies are an asset that generates income and there are so many of them lining up to Get stuffed over.
it's like there is a line and they are yelling ME.. ME.. PICK ME FIRST.... SCAM ME FIRST..
so do you really see the logic in approaching these people for mentorship..........NO MATE.
Statistically speaking, you are highly likely to get scammed in your effort to avoid scams (and.. i'm being dead honest with you here.. ok)
it's more productive to understand WHY THEY FAIL and then DON'T BE LIKE THEM
3 Main Points
- dont' be emotional
- Don't be greedy
- have a plan
right there you just eliminated around 70% of the reason of why people fail
it certainly is
you need help along the way and you'll pick up pieces of information that are useful, even from the scammers
but do it on your own (THAT'S FREE ADVICE AND VERY GOOD ADVICE)
yeah of course, let the dealer charge you 3 - 4 times more ....... totally correct
or here's another idea
go to a site that teaches you how to troubleshoot a car so that the majority of stuff you can do yourself
and get the mechanic to do the big stuff
(as is the case here)
Become a Mechanic... go to TAFE for 3 years
same deal here, you are going spend around 2 - 3 years learning how to trade anyway.. aren't you?
if you want to take the approach of , take it to the mechanic or dealer
BE AN INVESTOR AND TAKE IT TO THE INVESTOR TO INVEST FOR YOU AND PAY A FEE FOR A GUARANTEED RETURN
but.. the fee will be small
but you are here because YOU WANT TO TRADE
hence, YOU WANT TO BE THE MECHANIC
Exactly. IF they are available
ARE THEY ?????
No.. it makes more sense to have not pulled the car apart before you knew you could put it back together
you should know how to find part numbers on parts so you know which part to order
and if you don't know these things......... CALL A TAXI so you can get on with your life
before you pull the car apart, YOU SHOULD OF HAD A PLAN
A Survey hehe
What for ?
yes Really, this is what people charge, this is a normal cost in business, especially finance
go to a finance expert and ask to create a financial portfolio that takes a few hours say 3 - 4 hours,, Watch them charge you $5,500 for a basic portfolio and plan, that's more than $1,000 per hour THIS IS NORMAL.. ok
i can understand why you think this is a big figure
but YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND THIS IS NORMAL
and also..... THIS WOULD BE MY RATE.. i don't need to do a survey to know what my time is worth.
as far as i'm concerned (and not being rude) i don't need to mentor people, but KEEP IN MIND if someone approaches me for it, it would not be smart for me to drop everything i'm doing and the money that i'm making to babysit someone for like $50 per hour, that would be stupid on my part.
so.. yeah... this is normal
I understood what you meant
but my point was...
newbies always like to dictate what THEY WANT
with respect, you need to understand YOU DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT YOU WANT,
sometimes in life, you need to go through crap that you don't want to go through to get to what you really want
let me show you ...
and... I'm guessing that you want to hear YES = it's good And NO = It's bad
well. CONSIDER THIS
there life is shit because of what it is and their habits
meaning.. THERE LIFE NEEDS TO CHANGE and it needs TO BE AFFECTED
you said... will it affect their job.............. STUFF THEIR JOB.
Mate, seriously, i have in the past put people in positions where they were forced to lose their jobs, they now earn 5x more because they were put in that position and needed TO ADAPT
the easy road is HANG ONTO YOUR JOB
but consider that Most people have a crap job anyway that pays crap money
WHICH IS WHY ARE HERE IN FOREX TO BEGIN WITH
and then... you want to say something like... I DON'T WANT IT TO AFFECT MY JOB hehe... Seriously.. cmon mate.. think about it
to become successful means YOU HAVE TO CHANGE WHO YOU ARE NOW .. ok
YOUR LIFE HAS TO CHANGE
YOUR JOB HAS TO CHANGE
YOUR FINANCIAL SITUATION HAS TO CHANGE
YOUR LIFE HAS TO BE TURNED UPSIDE DOWN because, now. it's not working.... right
so... if you are after someone to mentor you that WON'T AFFECT YOUR LIFE..... good luck with that, you'll probably get scammed.
first of all i would say.. don't be so sensitive
i mean, you are wanting financial freedom, yet you don't want to stare at screens
mate, i have epilepsy ok.. and i'm not whinging about staring at screens...
you have no excuse
but LUCKY FOR YOU THOUGH... yes, it can bee achieved without a lot of screen time,
but, in the beginning when learning, you do need to be in front of the screens a lot
later, you can relax with that
it depends though
if you are a scalper... you'll have tonnes of screen time
if you are a person that places a trade for a few days, it'll be different
if it's a strategy that works... YES IT DOES
sure, and i'm happy to talk to someone FOR FREE to get them to understand this stage. thats' not a problem at all
but.. goals and priorities are important , there is no point trying to earn money if you don't know what you are earning it for.
i think you missed my point.
my point was... THE EVIDENCE IS BS... you will be lied to , they will call it evidence but it will be BS.
the point is .. newbies don't know what evidence is to begin with, thats' why there is no point asking for it.
you can use the term system or strategy... I KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN EITHER WAY.
here is my point about newbies
look at all this that you said
ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU BECAME AN EXPERT ON WHAT IS DEFINED AS THIS AND THAT AND SO ON
mate, Call it whatever you want. I KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN.. OK
AND Incidentally, your points are mistake.. but.. it doesn't really matter, i'm just saying . ok
don't get too hung up on this stuff. it doesn't help you make money.
no, generally you'll get scammed
now let me ask you this
if i was 30 years old and you were 13years old and we were going to be in a fight.
you need to establish certain criteria to protect yourself so you can win
WHAT EXACTLY ARE YOU PLANNING TO DO ?
YOU DON'T KNOW ANYTHING, but, you think you do
let's say you were 19... which makes it worse
you now think YOU REALLY REALLY KNOW, and still you'd get your arse handed to you on a platter
yes.. you need to establish a clear way to protect yourself (this is very important)
yes.. you need to have a clear goal
and yes.. if you don't have these things you are wasting your time...
of course, this is correct
BUT.... you don't know how to protect yourself, you are just repeating what others who don't know have told you and TO YOU ... IT SOUNDS LOGICAL
then.. watch how you lose all your money
You are the 13 year old who thinks they can win
the Market is the 40 year old that will kick your arse without breaking a sweat and laugh when you are on the ground
YOU NEED TO ACCEPT THAT YOU ARE DEALING WITH A SUPERIOR OPPONENT
Now here's the million dollar question
HOW DO YOU PROTECT YOURSELF AGAINST SAID OPPONENT
they have been doing this for over 100 years
How long have you been doing it for ?
think about that
some fights ... it's best to walk away
others, you need a plan, but MAKE SURE YOU KNOW HOW TO KEEP YOUR HANDS UP TO PROTECT YOUR FACE,
don't just put your hands up at your chin LIKE YOU SEE IN BOXING MOVIES, because you'll got a hook to the temple.. simple as that
so MAKE SURE YOU KNOW that's the point