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An update? Been close to a month, Elon and D have been stumbling around, still confident that these two are the BEST there are in the country to run things? Seems they have it covered, right?

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Hegseth is throwing is hat into the mix. And the lawsuits are starting already.

https://www.axios.com/2025/03/26/signal-chat-trump-officials-lawsuit-hegseth

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Who would have ever imagined that something like this could occur? Consider the outrage from MAGA if this had happened during Biden’s or Obama’s presidency.

Entire Signal chats about Yemen attacks are published after Trump team denied it included any classified information

Newly published texts reveal the minute-to-minute breakdown of the “war plans,” weapons and targets in Yemen as Trump administration officials and military leaders discussed the operation with one journalist privy to the entire conversation.

The Atlantic’s editor-in-chief Jeffery Goldberg, who was inadvertently added to the Signal chat group discussing sensitive military operations, has published the messages after the White House and senior U.S. officials repeatedly claimed the chat did not contain classified information.

The messages from Hegseth, sent on March 15, the day of the attack, contain a detailed timeline of when U.S. forces would strike Houthi targets in Yemen and the type of weapons they would use. “Target Terrorist is @ his Known Location so SHOULD BE ON TIME,” one of the messages Hegseth wrote that day said.

After the messages were published, Karoline Leavitt issued another denial. “The Atlantic has conceded: these were NOT ‘war plans,’” Leavitt said in a post on X. “This entire story was another hoax written by a Trump-hater who is well-known for his sensationalist spin.”

Hegseth shared the plan approximately two hours before the bombs dropped in Yemen, The Atlantic reported. Some 53 people, including children, were killed in the attacks.

Those featured in the chat include Trump’s National Security Adviser Mike Waltz, CIA director John Ratcliffe and Vice President JD Vance, who were among those interacting with Hegseth when he shared the plans. There were 19 members in the chat group, according to the screenshots published by The Atlantic. The outlet said it has redacted the name of a CIA official who is named in the messages by Ratcliffe.

At 11: 44.a.m., Hegseth began posting the detailed plans in the chat and announced a “TEAM UPDATE.”

“TIME NOW (1144et): Weather is FAVORABLE. Just CONFIRMED w/CENTCOM we are a GO for mission launch,” Hegseth said, referring to the military’s Central Command in the Middle East.

The head of the Pentagon then shared the timings of the attack.

“1215et: F-18s LAUNCH (1st strike package),” Hegseth said. “1345: ‘Trigger Based’ F-18 1st Strike Window Starts (Target Terrorist is @ his Known Location so SHOULD BE ON TIME – also, Strike Drones Launch (MQ-9s).”

At 2:10 p.m., “more F-18s” were to launch, Hegseth said. “1415: Strike Drones on Target (THIS IS WHEN THE FIRST BOMBS WILL DEFINITELY DROP, pending earlier ‘Trigger Based’ targets),” Hegseth wrote.

“1536 F-18 2nd Strike Starts – also, first sea-based Tomahawks launched,” Hegseth said. At the end of the plans, he wrote: “Godspeed to our Warriors.”

Vance messaged the group afterward and said: “I will say a prayer for victory.”

Those featured in the chat include Trump’s National Security Adviser Mike Waltz, CIA director John Ratcliffe and Vice President JD Vance, who were among those interacting with Hegseth when he shared the plans. There were 19 members in the chat group, according to the screenshots published by The Atlantic. The outlet said it has redacted the name of a CIA official who is named in the messages by Ratcliffe.

At 11: 44.a.m., Hegseth began posting the detailed plans in the chat and announced a “TEAM UPDATE.”

“TIME NOW (1144et): Weather is FAVORABLE. Just CONFIRMED w/CENTCOM we are a GO for mission launch,” Hegseth said, referring to the military’s Central Command in the Middle East.

The head of the Pentagon then shared the timings of the attack.

“1215et: F-18s LAUNCH (1st strike package),” Hegseth said. “1345: ‘Trigger Based’ F-18 1st Strike Window Starts (Target Terrorist is @ his Known Location so SHOULD BE ON TIME – also, Strike Drones Launch (MQ-9s).”

At 2:10 p.m., “more F-18s” were to launch, Hegseth said. “1415: Strike Drones on Target (THIS IS WHEN THE FIRST BOMBS WILL DEFINITELY DROP, pending earlier ‘Trigger Based’ targets),” Hegseth wrote.

“1536 F-18 2nd Strike Starts – also, first sea-based Tomahawks launched,” Hegseth said. At the end of the plans, he wrote: “Godspeed to our Warriors.”

Vance messaged the group afterward and said: “I will say a prayer for victory.”

At 1:48 p.m., Waltz then sent real-time intelligence about the attack site, confirming one of the targets had collapsed, the outlet reported. “VP. Building collapsed. Had multiple positive ID. Pete, Kurilla, the IC, amazing job.”

The vice president praised the group following the confirmation, and Waltz responded with emojis.

“Great job all,” Hegseth said. “More strikes ongoing for hours tonight, and will provide full initial report tomorrow. But on time, on target, and good readouts so far.”

In its reporting, The Atlantic notes that if the messages had been received by a hostile actor ahead of time, the Houthis “would have had time to prepare for what was meant to be a surprise attack on their stronghold.”

“The consequences for American pilots could have been catastrophic,” the report adds.

The White House said it objected to the release of the messages in a statement to The Atlantic.

Screenshots of the messages were published by The Atlantic and show a contact named “Michael Waltz” added Goldberg to the group. It also showed that messages in the end-to-end encrypted app were initially set to disappear after one week. After Hegseth sent the plans, the settings were changed by Waltz so that messages would disappear after four weeks.

Waltz said he took “full responsibility” and that he was investigating how Goldberg had gained access to the chat.

“I take full responsibility. I built the group,” Waltz told Fox News’s Ingraham Angle on Tuesday. “It’s embarrassing. We’re going to get to the bottom of it.”

Alina Habba, counselor to President Donald Trump, spoke to reporters Wednesday and said journalists were “making a big to do about nothing.”

“We stand by Mike Waltz; he’s doing a tremendous job. I think this is a distraction,” Habba said. “We would love if the press, for once, would focus on the actual facts and actions of the administration. This is just — this is frankly just noise.”

“We’re also allowed to use Signal for top level official communications. We also have other means of communications that were used,” she added.

Trump claimed that Waltz was “a good man” who had “learned his lesson” and would not be fired. The president also blamed sharing the messages on an error from “one of Michael’s people” that did not amount to a “serious” issue.

The Pentagon warned officials around the time of the leak that government officials shouldn’t use Signal, an encrypted messaging app, even for sharing unclassified material because of a “vulnerability” leaving it open to exploitation by foreign adversaries.

:rofl:

Get to the bottom on him adding the journalist to the group? “Why did I do that?”

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A fed up Piers Morgan brutally torches the Trump administration over its recent national security failure.

It’s a cult when someone will never, ever, ever, ever criticize their leader or party.

The same people complaining about DEI hires getting jobs are the same ones that applauded a cabinet full of unqualified people who are there solely because they wore a red hat. :+1:

Trump would surely have his fan base swallowing their own words.

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No scenario should this person retain his position; You jeopardize America’s security, and you are allowed to keep your role if you are part of this administration, Something of this nature should be about Red, White, and Blue, rather than Red Vs Blue.

JD Vance and other officials told Trump to fire Waltz. There was just one reason he didn’t.

Reporting by multiple outlets suggests that while President Donald Trump has been outwardly supportive of his national security adviser since the Signalgate security breach fiasco, internal discussions about Mike Waltz’s future were somewhat different.

After a day of bruising headlines about the now-infamous group chat that has inadvertently included journalist Jeffrey Goldberg, on Wednesday evening, Vice President JD Vance, Chief of Staff Susie Wiles, and top personnel official Sergio Gor had a private meeting with the president, Politico reports.

In that meeting, they suggested that it might be best for Waltz to be dismissed, two people familiar with the conversations who were granted anonymity to discuss them told the outlet.

While the president agreed that Waltz was at fault for the debacle, he ultimately decided not to fire him for one reason — that it would be a win for Democrats and the liberal media.

“They don’t want to give the press a scalp,” one of the people, a White House ally close with the team, told Politico.

According to Axios, Trump officials say the president was more angry that Waltz had Goldberg’s number in his phone than he was about the exposure of sensitive military strike details. Things got worse after Waltz’s sloppy explanation on Laura Ingraham’s Fox News show.

The New York Times reports that even before the Signal leak, Waltz was already on “shaky footing” and was viewed as too hawkish and keen for military action against Iran. This has caused friction with other members of the Trump team and the wider MAGA world.

No responsibility from either of these fools or the administration, yet will persist in blaming others for their misfortunes.

The Trump administration, including prominent figures like Defense Secretary Hegseth and National Security Adviser Mike Waltz, is downplaying the severity of the fallout from the Signal group chat incident.

Pete Hegseth took wife to meetings with foreign officials
The Wall Street Journal reports that Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth brought his wife, Jennifer, to two meetings with foreign military counterparts where sensitive information was discussed.

That’s the silliest part. So many unqualified people. Family members and spouses getting jobs. Being in special meetings. Going on foreign trips. Has it always been this way?

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Doesn’t matter if they are family members or not; some type of experience should be required at the highest level.

WASHINGTON — Kentucky Sen. Mitch McConnell is blasting President Trump for allegedly putting “amateur isolationists” in charge of US military policy.

McConnell, the former Republican leader of the upper chamber, bashed the picks for Pentagon leadership while commenting on Trump firing National Security Agency director Timothy Haugh.

“If decades of experience in uniform isn’t enough to lead the NSA but amateur isolationists can hold senior policy jobs at the Pentagon, then what exactly are the criteria for working on this administration’s national security staff,” McConnell told the New York Times. “I can’t figure it out.”

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@SmallPaul are you a Magnificent Four? A member of the Avengers? Are you… Superman?? You have been fighting this fight relentless for as long as I have known about BP… Never gets tired of the nonsense… Been good days, now the morons are out in the daylight?

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:point_up: Respect, Stupidity is stupidity. If someone can prove me incorrect, I will be glad to end the argument.

Behavior that shows a lack of good sense or judgment:

We all experience our times of stupidity and nonsense, but to move forward, you wouldn’t want that person lingering around you for an extended period if they continue to behave that way.

It’s funny, all this focus on DEI, and it being bad, and jobs should be won on merit, but all these people just don’t seem as qualified as I think they should be.

Like the Hegseth guy. He ran a couple non-profits. That’s it. Now he’s running a giant workforce with real world security and military consequences.

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I wasn’t very familiar with DEI; Forbes has an excellent article regarding DEI misconceptions.

Three Of The Most Popular DEI Myths Debunked

Diversity, equity, and inclusion, known by its popular initialism DEI, has been on the receiving end of increased hate as of late. Since the DEI boom of 2020, critics of DEI have been regurgitating different myths about the field, some of which have seemed to stick. This article explores three of the most popular DEI myths and provides evidence to debunk these prominent misconceptions.