Post of the Day: Stop Placement

[B]Student’s question:[/B]

As the SMA 200 shows a uptrend market, I will

  1. Wait until the pair pulls back to the support line
  2. Observe the formation of the candlestick that touches the support line
  3. Fine tune with an uptrend in the 4 hour chart (for further confirmation)
  4. Place a LONG position upon the formation of a new candlestick (5pm EST) after candlestick/s before it confirms a reversal (long wick, bullish engulfing etc).
  5. Place a stop order 10 pips below the support line (to cater if the trend breaks)
  6. Place a limit of at least 1 : 2 of the risk : reward ratio.

Question: A candlestick in a daily chart carries a higher number of pips compared to a 4 hour chart. To avoid higher risks, is it better to place a position using the 4 hour chart or the daily chart?

[B]Power Course Instructor’s Response:[/B]

You are doing this just fine…well done.

My only concern would be the 10 pip stop that you mention. On any time frame chart, Daily, 4 hour or 1 hour, it is quite possible for price action to easily “wick” 10 pips or more below a trendline and then close above the trendline and move quite a distance in your intended direction…to the upside in this instance. Based on the Daily chart that you post, even a stop of 20-40 pips would provide a favorable risk reward ratio for the trade.

Regarding the second aspect of the question…

Using a 4 hour chart or a 1 hour chart will offer more favorable (less deep) stops in most instances. Depending on account size, since we do not want to risk more than 5% of our account at any one time, the Daily chart could be used for trend determination while the 1 hour or 4 hour could be used for “fine tuning” an entry as well as determining stop and limit placement.