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Master Graviton Esq.,
At the risk of poking the cranky diamondback rattler with a stick :wink: ; have you had time to check out the link Tymen provided? I think it would really help people like beehjae understand how you personally define bubbles, squeezes, etc. Maybe clear up a few of his and others questions.

It is my understanding that the so-called no-go areas were only defined as a result of newer traders having trouble on CT trades; and that these will be removed once he returns and the method is refined as a result of all our experiences. Of course, we will have to wait & see.

PS. Still looking for a sufficiently grumpy garden gnome for your avatar :smiley:

You could probably upload it onto the Bollinger Band DNA Collaboration site that Merchant Prince set up.

I"m going to disagree with Master Tang here. That’s a sausage, as a bubble will not continue in the same direction as it was going after the opposite BB has curved it. Also, a bubble has a PA that goes directly to the opposite BB.

Look at the end of the BB walk that you posted. Look at the band it was walking. See how it curves inward when the PA reverses?? In my observation, it happens about 80-90% of the time with there is a PA reversal in either a sausage or bubble.
I look for that before I enter (in demo of course) on a PA reversal.

There is a fairly typical BB squeeze on your chart. The part before the deep fall in PA there, there is a narrow area before the bands widen, and the PA is quite level. That squeeze is on the 8 or so candles previous to the 8:00 candle on the 4th of May.

Hope this helps…

While your assessment of the situation is more than valid, you have to consider what was occurring at the time of the entry.

When beehjae entered that trade, the scenario would have been that of a bubble, as the rest of the chart we see now was not applicable.

Cheers!

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Can you mark a valid CBL for that area? and it’s respective short entry?

for academic purposes :slight_smile:

Whenever the mid bb is quite steep, as this is, it has the momentum to keep going in the direction of the trend. That should be a signal to exercise caution about entering a counter trend trade. I recall posting a chart similar to this one as it was happening, but Tymen said he didn’t think it would be good for a ct trade because of the steepness of the mid bb. He was absolutely correct. The pa made a quick return to the trend and did not get even halfway to the mid line. The lesson I learned was to be aware of the steepness of the mid line.

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There is no valid short CBL in that timeframe. You’d have to step down a frame or 2 to find the CBL. However it would be in the long candle at 8 am. That would be your short entry…

I see, since I would like to follow Tymen’s recommendations, I won’t go any lower than M30. At least I still didn’t miss anything, given that m30 is my minimum. :slight_smile:

I’ll be mindful of the steepness moving forward, however, it seems subjective again as to what is steep and what is not so steep.

I misunderstood the question… There is a valid cbl, but entry per tymen’s rules are a bit tricky… CBL would be on the 6am candle for the short. If you refuse to use a lower chart than m30 for entry, you will be looking at the end of the bottom of the 7:30 am candle. However that candle is bottomed out on the lower BB. I will have to let further comment to those with more knowledge.
BTW, I"m using a 3 candle CBL…

I like it. Although there is another avatar which would be emminently suitable.

“I promise not to ask any more questions, Graviton, honest I won’t!”

Speaking of tricky entries, this is the post I was referring to when regard to beehjae’s comments about the difficulties he is facing with bubbles, sausages and no-trade areas.

I would ask people to determine entry points using strict BB DNA rules on this TF alone. It raises yet again the issue some people have with BB DNA, which is that it does not get you into trends.

Thanks for a white colored chart hachiko, that chart you have, doesn’t have much entries as we’d like :eek:

Odd as it looks, that my feeds have some touches on the BB, while Hachiko’s, does not have any.

I appreciate the help from you guys. I feel so blessed. :o

Just going back to this entry here Beehjae.

I have provided a chart of how I understand the 2CBL strategy.

We take the most extreme candle with the lowest CBL and go one candle to it’s left (as long as the candle on the left has a higher high) - we draw the CBL on the high of that candle on the left, like I have done on the chart shown.

I have marked the extreme candle with E.

There are no closes above this CBL line and this would have stopped you from entering this trade.

As always, I’ll be more than happy to be corrected on this one.

EDIT Please ignore my second green CBL at the low of the chart, that is a 1 candle CBL that I drew yesterday while trading.

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thanks IH for the clarification. Much appreciated the chat. Will occasionally bug you now. lol :stuck_out_tongue:

it does work. when the signal line crosses zero level then your entry to buy or sale. You keep in your mind that its not the best entry

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After spending more time in the chat room and reading Gravitons thread, I found he provided an excellent explanation of how to avoid this issue by dropping down in time-frames until suitable entry points begin to emerge and then stepping back as you continue with the trend. Issue solved! :wink:

See this posting

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This is one heck of a tool Merchantprince - just yesterday I was talking to Beehjae and was just thinking of how useful a tool like this would have been!

My understanding is that with the 2 candle cbl a close beyond the cbl is not required. An entry can be made as soon as pa crosses the line. But with the 1 candle cbl a close beyond the cbl is required as well as a smaller candle body.
Please correct me if I’m wrong. Of course the other requirements must be met as well.