Updating Trendline

Hi everyone! Just a quick introduction. I am newbie from London who finished school of pipsology about 2 weeks ago and now going over learned stuff, refining it an applying on practice.

I have a question on drawing Trendline.

For example - when I draw a trendline for a downtrend connecting lower swing highs do I need to update trendline if next swing high is higher than previous while price is still making lower lows? I’ll show you what I mean. Look at this GBP/USD 1 hour chart.


I dragged a trendline to connect 2 lower highs. A while later new lower high appeared. Which did not fit my trendline.


The question is: Do I need to update trendline by connecting first high with most recent lower high as price is stil is in a downtrend and is making lower lows. Like that


Or my trendline wasn’t validated and a new side trend taking place?

I would be so grateful if You could clarify that.

Two observations …

First, a trendline based on only two touches isn’t usually going to signify very much.

Secondly, when there’s just been a (relatively) enormous “thrust bar” like the one shown on your chart (of which the top is the first of your two touches), that’s not really a time to be drawing trendlines of that kind, including a “pre-drop high”, because something exceptional has just happened (maybe a market opening, a news announcement or whatever, but something “extraneous” to the typical TA situation, anyway).

Hi lexys , hope you are doing fine

I am sure many will disagree but I am not a fan of these trendlines, I believe you will find that horizontal lines at areas of support and resistance to be far more reliable. If you are looking for a way to follow the trend, try using a Simple moving average, here for example is AUDCAD 1hr chart with a 200 sma, see how price and the moving average are working together, pullbacks to the moving average also make for excellent entry signals

I agree unreservedly. I draw [I]only[/I] horizontal lines on my own charts.

I agree with Dr. Lexys and Dennis.

Thank you guys for your answers! It really means a lot for me.

It’s nice to see experience member to agree on something I was having a thought about. Even after spending only 1 month reading charts I have noticed that horizontal SnR lines are much more reliable that a trendline. I would assume because they are objective while there might be difference in how people choosing to draw a trendline.

Denis3450, thank you for mentioning 200 SMA. I did read about it last night and plotted it on my chart to find that it acts as very strong SnR level. I will definitely use it.

Lexys and PipMeHappy thank you a lot for your opinion on trendline and horizontal SnR levels.


… have noticed that horizontal SnR lines are much more reliable than a trendline!! Then when should you enter or exit? and how do you determine the price direction?

Price direction is determine buy trend of the simple moving average as I showed in post #3, if your sma is moving up and price is riding on top of it then you know you have a good uptrend, same for a downtrend except you want price to be riding below the sma. Entries and exits are a personal choice but ideally in an uptrend you want to buy on pullback to support, support could be the sma or a previous price point. A reversal candle ( pin bar, engulfing ) at support will validate your entry, taking profits again is a personal choice, if I have multiple lots then I might close all or part depending on price action signals I see when hitting overhead resistance,


How does price move? vertical, horizontal or diagonal?

BR,
Victor Lew:cool:

P/S: Many pips to all.

That depends, a little, on the charting methods we choose, to display it, strictly speaking? But if we use bars or candles (not everyone does), then it moves [I][U]vertically[/U][/I] within each bar, which is why from [I][U]horizontal[/U][/I] trendlines some people can most easily see when it’s “crossed a line”. And many pips to you, Victor … [I]many[/I] pips! :cool:

Can see better when switch to line chart.


Price always try to move diagonal up or down. Still find that trendline is not significant? hmm…

Yes; I take this point, certainly. Good to see a line chart. :cool:

(That’s why I mentioned that not everyone uses bars or candles, but I’d think it’s probably fair to guess that 99% of this forum’s users do).

I use constant-volume bars, myself (I trade futures), so the prices move vertically within each bar.

I don’t suggest that diagonal trendlines have no significance, only that - like several other posters on the previous page - I find horizontal ones [I]far[/I] more significant and reliable, myself.

You guys get riding from hedge fund volume and cut the lose short
But what to do with bigger accounts it cant be done same