Going back to Emerald’s thread topic, I give you…
the cover of the 25th October issue of the magazine ‘The Week’:
How topical!
This is probably a little more applicable.
How I imagine what the OP looked like while posting this thread.
…Jesus, I can’t believe I had to respond to that.
http://forums.babypips.com/newbie-island/69482-there-future-currency-trading-3.html#post664024
Well- sorry Bob lol. I didn’t read this post until after I made my own (which wasn’t too nice). Listen, I’m all for moving on- 100%.
No hard feelings, but, I’m not deleting my response to your claims. It needs to be out in the public.
Good luck out there- see you around.
Jake
Vent all you need my friend (you have been official upgraded fro bro to friend). I am glad we can put the past behind us. As I have always stated I have great respect for Jake the trader. Your depth of knowledge and ability to articulate that knowledge speaks for itself. So my sincere apologies if you ever thought I was attacking you or stalking to defame. If I ever question you it was soley to promote independant thought amongst others.
That’s why I don’t like marketers. Marketing is a very cold calculated science that promotes an enitities goods and services and rarely does it promote independent thought. Dont think anyone can survive in this game who can’t think for themselves.
So emeraldoc, what’s happen to BP. Nothing at all. We are still a community of passionate traders that can disagree in zealous rage but can respect each other at the end of the day. Some just need to toughen up.
All the best Jake and I look forward to learning more from you
Bob
What happened to BP?
Not really a lot. It’s just like any other forum that has many members. I visit a lot of Hot Rod forums. There are always the loudmouth types that act like they just built a Ridler winner, and dispense advise whether solicited or not. Then there are the quieter lurker types that actually have some wisdom, and a ton of experience, but don’t pop up every time someone has a question that they could have easily answered with the judicious use of the “Search” function.
That pattern is prevalent on just about every web forum on almost ANY subject you can imagine. Gardening. Guitar playing. Sports. There’s always a few loudmouth know-it-alls, and a few truly knowledgeable lurkers, but it’s always mostly a soup of inexperienced beginners that are generally ill equipped to discern the difference between the two.
No matter the subject, the internet in general is a “buyer beware” situation.
Here’s an internet mechanic horror story for you: Tuner wrecks customer’s Ford GT, situation devolves from there - Autoblog
The reason that’s not happening is because if they did link to an independently verified account folks would see some very disappointing results & would very quickly conclude that the potential returns v/s the time invested would be negatively skewed & not worth the effort.
That’s why you witness so much resistance from these vendors, their cohorts & others who casually trawl these forums throwing their hindsight trades around like confetti to supplying live proof of their trading progress directly linked to the strategy/model being presented.
They constantly trot out these excuses about confidentiality agreements or privacy & hacking issues & try to paint those enquiring as trouble makers or trolls. The reality of course is most of them are either running a net negative or barely profitable (live) balance or simply playing via a demo account.
Revealing their actual trade sheets to the forum membership would very quickly expose their inadequacies & burst their bubble.
So, what happened to Babypips?
The same thing that’s playing out on similar forums.
It’s becoming tired of high profile members dragging hundreds of posts behind them, giving false impressions of financial success to novices.
Newer members need to become much more savvy before blindly accepting these rose tinted views being painted by some on here.
And the only realistic means of identifying the genuine articles on these forums is to see an independently verified track record of that persons live trading history before investing their time & effort.
And no-one should be shouted down or belittled as a troll or trouble maker for requesting the most basic form of validation before investing that time & effort.
In fact anyone who doesn’t, needs to ask themselves some uncomfortable questions.
Wow, is that really FXJake? Or am I confusing myself with another Jake? 
No connection Kevin.
[QUOTE=“FOREXunlimited;664271”] No connection Kevin.[/QUOTE] LOL, :p…
I could not agree with MT more…
I know you. You’re that professional hedge fund manager or … hang on… listern… what’s that…crash… bang… slap. Thats the sound of me jumping up and down slapping my bare behind. Because I don’t care about you or you’re hired goons that only have something to say on this types of threads. Your input into the BP community has in effect been sweet FA. Talk about trawlling and the pot calling the kettle black.
First how about you show us the way. Lets see you letter of employment. Your salary. Use your real name ( not some greek muse of song and dance). Your verified track record.
Second the only people that need this information are incompetent lazy metally retarted sheep. These people don’t like hard work or have the intelligence to figure anything out for themselves. They look for short cuts and wish only to copy some-one-else’s system. They will always be failures in whatever they do. The path to success is the longest, hardest and most tedious journey one ever takes. And its more a journey into self discovery than speculating. People fail because they are not prepared for the huge amount of time one must invest in one self. As I said. People are lazy. And they certainly don’t like to have to critic themselves.
One only answers to themselves. One has to accept reponcibilty for ones own actions. You have to do this for yourself. That means hour upon hour of research. And lets face facts. Most of the crap out there has been produced by the industry marketing themselves. No different here at BP.
If you haven’t got the intelligence to figure out which members are active for the right reasons compared to the likes of yourself and your hired goons who only pop up at these times then I am afraid your not going to succeed in this game. End of subject.
So to conclude, I challenge you to open up and actually share some of your knowledge rather than trolling around hiding behind your desk.
And just for the record and I have said it before. I am a dairy man. I make things from milk. BP’s is where I have shared my journey. Its easy to use the search button and get a good laugh at my misadventures
You’re a rather emotional/excitable fella aren’t you.
Not the best trait to bring to the trading table by any stretch.
Just because others don’t share your views or opinions or have insights you quite clearly don’t, doesn’t mean you have to start stomping your feet & getting red in the face.
Calm down.
Excitable yes. Emotional no. Passionate definitely. So you only need to know what my favorite food is lmfao.
Extreme, ott reactions are a common theme on here, but given the clientele it isn’t at all surprising
To be honest, what thalia & others are recommending newbies do before committing time & energy makes perfect sense when you think about it.
Even the brokers themselves are gradually releasing regular update stats confirming very, very few of their customer base are net profitable over any given period, yet when you browse these forums nearly every thread you visit (particularly these price action threads) boasts more than a handful of contributors returning consistently profitable ratios.
And as if by coincidence, all these perfect traders reside on retail forums lol.
Not only does it not make sense, it greatly contradicts the stats from the industry providers.
In the fantasy land of the forums, the vast majority are net winners.
But in the stark reality of the broker platforms, the vast majority are net losers!
Therefore, requesting verification of consistently profitable activity from these thread starters, gurus & their loyal followers is a very smart & sensible move in my book.
Newbies should be shaking thalia by the hand & thanking him for dispensing that type of advice not jumping all over his back hounding him for it.
I take it double 6 that your comfortable disclousing you earnings for all to see. Think some need to practice what they preach.
Oh that’s right you too have nothing to offer. Hired goon.
You’re not very observant are you.
I obviously don’t frequent the forum anywhere near as often as you judging by your post count, but even I’m aware of his correct role in the industry & it most certainly isn’t as a fund manager. Neither is his username linked to a greek muse of song & dance, but then had you conducted even the most basic research before spewing out that rather clumsy embarrassing rant, you would have at least got your facts right.
Your even more clumsy counter request doesn’t stack up either. He’s not hosting a thread, providing trading advice, making wild claims of profit accumulation or inferring he’s a consistently profitable trader.
He’s simply advising newbies to ask those who do make such claims to verify them before investing time & effort in their offerings.
And then you wonder why those who possess information worth collating don’t bother to dispense it.
Dear oh dear.
OK, so I’ve had my bit of fun and proved emeraldoc point. It doesn’t take much to bring the trolls and goons out. Look at them come out of the wood work now. One just needs to know how to feed them. Bit like fishing really. Head of to the right spot at the right time of day, bait the hook and there’s dinner. Yum Yum Yum. Lads if you want to attack me head over to my thread and bag away. Here’s the link.
http://forums.babypips.com/newbie-island/68200-price-action-trading-tick-charts.html
Prefer it if you can demonstrate some of this knowledge you posses and critic my methodology instead of asking to see my pay check. All I can do is share my experience. Hope you can to
Promise I won’t bite or be nasty pasty.
What happen to BabyPips?
In my view, it is the same old thing since I started. It only changes when you change your view and when someone’s emotions get in the way and when someone disagree with someone’s point of you that is different than him or her. I know I was part of it too and took me a good amount of time to finally “gets” it.
My advice is don’t take it personally. Accept the fact that we all come from a different back ground, culture, and experience. Block the “noise” and only focus on the things that you think it will add value to you. If you can’t find it here then move on to somewhere else… Also, learn how to have a " thicker skin" and not to be bothered by it…
These is getting too emotional for me… I am about to break down and cry lol… ** wipe tears**
No-one’s asking to see your trading credentials billyboy because you don’t possess any.
The theme of thalia’s post isn’t/wasn’t aimed at the likes of you in the first place, but that fact escaped you as usual due to your excitable, emotional & combustible nature.
Once again, as is the norm with you, you made it all about you & it couldn’t be further from the truth lol.
No-one needs or wants to attack you either, again because you don’t have anything worth attacking. You’re not a guru or a trading product salesman & you certainly don’t fall into the category of boasting consistently profitable returns.
You’re just a dairy man who plays at trading on a part-time basis & is still in the early throes of acquainting himself with the basics. Plus you like to puff out your chest & bark every so often, but you’re harmless.
Oh & you’re the one being fished & fed if only you knew it!