so as majority of beginners I went through the phase of watching Guru’s to then realising they are mostly scammers who push their course, to then watching Imantrading exposing all of the people I was watching, and “learning from” at this time. For the last week I’ve been torn apart between using the combination of indicators vs no indicators and pure price action. I don’t know what is the way anymore. Can indicators eventually help u find the edge or is it purely price action that will matter at the end? If price action then what would be the next step of learning after babypips course ??? I went through Imantrading free course amd I don’t really understand how I suppose to practise. He says take lots of trades and learn the price action, but I believe I can spend 4 years taking trades and watching chart without major improvement (gamblin at this point). Is price action just raw chart without drawings or using things like trend line and supp/resist?
There’s many types of trading that might fall under the umbrella of price action such as support and resistance, supply & demand, trendlines, chart patterns, candlestick patterns, market structure, and even Fibonacci. Basically trading without indicators.
There are many methods and none of the them or right or wrong, they’re just different. There’s no one size fits all method of trading, so you should find something that resonates with you, something that you understand thoroughly, and can execute proficiently.
I’m more than slightly biased towards price action but maybe someone that has experience with indicators and naked charts can give you objective pros and cons of each.
Yeah bro, been there. Started with gurus, got hyped, then realized it’s mostly BS. Indicators can help if you use them right, but they don’t give an edge alone. Price action is cleaner and shows what the market’s really doing. After Babypips, focus on market structure — highs/lows, BOS, CHoCH, liquidity. Iman saying “just take trades” is kinda vague — better to pick 1-2 setups, backtest them like crazy, then forward test with rules. And nah, price action isn’t just a naked chart — you can still draw SR, trends, zones. Just don’t rely on indicators to tell you what’s happening.
i suggest you start a demo account and take detailed note about how you open a trade and at the end you will be able to find the best patern ffor you by just anaysing the notes you take
In a “directional bias” sense (whether you’re looking at the PA for potential long or potential short entries), maybe, yes.
But not for “when to enter a trade,” probably.
It’s “understanding how prices move and why” that matters at the end. That’s mostly price action, learned through education followed by practice (screen time).
It feels like that, at first. We’ve all been there. It improves!
It includes things like S/R.
In forums (and online, generally) “PA” just means “without indicators”.
Thank you guys, the replies really restored my view on the trading and I didn’t expect such a good value of the replies. I know I will have to put a lot of work in it, and I do not mind. I want to be in the 5% of traders that make it, even though it means a side hustle rather than main income (I can only build towards that).
As an experienced traders do you guys lean more towards futures or strictly forex? If someone did trade both (profitably more or less) did you have to learn price action from the scratch or some ideas/overall view apply for both considering volatility?
Almost all steadily successful forex CFD traders switch at some point to futures, so they can combine safe regulation, fund security, and genuine trading in a transparent market with decent leverage and having a real broker who’s on their side rather than against them. ((There are some other advantages, too.) I’ve never heard of anyone switching back.
No! It’s all the same thing.
If you can trade forex CFDs, it takes about an hour to learn the few differences you’d need to understand, to trade futures.
Thank you, yeah I am gravitating towards it while learning rather than forex, hence my dilemma whether I should focus on futures now, or I can just learn the very basics here and when the time comes jump on futures.
Amazing, I shall continue my journey to become long-term profitable with a clear view which you guys helped me establish.
I may comeback here at one point to share whether I reached my goals.
Fore to me is about learning what works for you. Here’s a challenge, pick 1 indicator example stochastic oscillator and check how it reacts on different levels across all time frames , note this down and then search for an indicator that show direction like your RSI, MACD just to name two. Check how they pair with stochastic and so on …use trendlines , whether you going to go for lean indicators, pure price action , you eventually have to use your lines. I would recommend to use lean setup,that’s a good way to start your pure price action.
It is easy to get confused because both indicator trading and price action can work when used correctly. Indicators are just visual tools that summarize what price is already showing, while price action focuses directly on structure, momentum, and levels without relying on signals. Neither is superior on its own, the real edge comes from understanding how market behavior repeats and managing risk around that.
Price action does not mean a blank chart, it means using raw price and simple tools like trendlines, zones, and candlestick patterns to read intent. Once you understand how price moves, indicators can help confirm or filter entries. The real progress comes from testing one idea at a time and learning through consistent review, not from switching between methods.
I think a lot of us have gone through the same cycle you described -following -gurus, realizing most of them are just selling dreams, and then swinging between indicators vs. pure price action. So you’re not alone at all.
From my experience, it’s not really about -indicators OR price action, it’s about understanding what each tool is actually doing. Indicators are just math applied to price. They can help you visualize momentum, volatility, or trend strength, but they don’t magically give you an edge. The edge comes from how you interpret and apply them with discipline and risk management.
Price action doesn’t mean staring at a naked chart with zero drawings. It usually means focusing on structure:
Support/resistance zones
Trendlines and channels
Candlestick behavior at key levels
Market context (are we trending, ranging, consolidating?)
That’s still “price action,” even if you’re drawing lines.
As for next steps after BabyPips:
Pick one or two setups (e.g., break/retest, support/resistance bounce) and practice only those instead of trying to trade everything.
Backtest them on historical charts. Literally scroll back and mark where your setup appears, then track results.
Move to demo or very small live trades to get screen time without blowing up.
Keep a journal. Write down why you took the trade, what you saw, and what happened. Over time you’ll see patterns in your own behavior.
Think of it like sports - practice only works if you’re analyzing what went wrong and adjusting.
So don’t stress about ‘indicators vs. price action.’ Both can work. What matters is building a process you can repeat and trust.
Hey bro, totally get what you’re going through — almost every trader has been in that same confusion phase at some point.
You’re 100% right — most so-called “gurus” out there just sell courses and signals without providing any real value. Good on you for realizing that early.
Now about indicators vs pure price action — truth is, indicators can help, but only if you truly understand what they represent (they’re all based on price anyway). Relying only on indicators without context is dangerous, but combining them with price action can actually give you a solid edge.
If you’re serious about learning pure price action, your next step after Babypips could be:
Focus on market structure, trend direction, and key zones (support/resistance).
Learn candlestick behavior — what each candle tells you about buyers vs sellers.
Then practice identifying patterns (HH, HL, LH, LL) and reaction around zones.
And yeah, when Imantrading says “take lots of trades,” it’s not random gambling — it’s structured practice. Try using a demo or small account, backtest setups, journal everything — what worked, what didn’t, why. That’s how improvement happens.
Price action doesn’t mean “no drawings.” You can use trendlines, zones, liquidity areas, etc. — those are all part of reading raw price, not indicators.
So don’t stress, bro. Stick to one style for a while, refine your process, and focus on consistency and journaling rather than profits at this stage. Progress will come naturally.
I support the idea of learning price action which however may time some time but eventually replace all other indicators to assist with trading. The price action traders are able to look at naked charts and can identify the setups.
The traders using indicators can also look at their charts and identify their set-ups. The fact that pure PA traders have no indicators doesn’t in itself make their set-ups any more reliable, more profitable or otherwise superior.
Maybe not, but it can perhaps make them easier to identify on cleaner charts, easier to define unambiguously, easier to monitor, and maybe closer to what many pro traders are using, too?
Price action trading also at least avoids the multi-indicator trap - so appealing to noobs! - of imagining that extra indicators can validly “confirm” what initial indicators “predict”.
I think the simplicity benefits are perhaps more significant to some folk than to others, though: many people seem to be attracted to complications?
True, it really comes down to what fits your style. Some traders thrive on clean charts, others find comfort in data from indicators. Both can work if you understand the logic behind your entries and stay consistent.
