Wish I Knew That Before!

Hello to all,

Forex, like anything else worthwhile, is not something that comes naturally…or without a cost.

To become proficient and profitable at Forex takes time, patience, persistance, determination and discipline.

I am still amazed as to how many people think they can learn forex quickly…then start to make millions within the first year or two.

You don’t go to school for two weeks, earn a masters degree…then land a cushie job paying 80K a month a few days later!!!..we all know that…so why do people STILL delude themselves that this is possible with Forex???..This sort of an attitude has in the past and will in the future, end up costing alot of hopefull people alot of money…not to mention the dented confidence and bruised ego that accompanys a margin call. :frowning:

I put these failiures down, in part, to misinformation.
Idiots on the internet advertising all this money to be made in no time at all…AFTER taking a course with them that promises to be “The best money you will ever spend”

I also put it down to hope…the hope of the individual to make easy money, to enhance their way of life…to get them out of the rutt they have been in for the last few years or so.

This combination is DANGEROUS!!!

Babypips.com is the top forex site on the net right now, the education it provides in it’s school has been invaluable for many on here, including me.

However, as with any “job”, education is little substitute for experience, there are always those tit-bits of information that only the experienced can tell you about, there are always short-cuts that you wish you had known about before you began.

These short-cuts and tid-bits are what i am after in this thread, those morsels of good advice the experienced traders now take for granted, but those just beginning will have to learn the hard way.

Perhaps if we all chip in a few “tid-bits” of advice that WE wish we had known about before we started…those who are considering trading the Forex, just starting out, or who have been unsuccessful can learn from our mistakes and/or wisdom.

In any field education is advantageous…experience is priceless.

To stop from people getting too nausiated from long posts (like mine)
i was thinking that we should all list 5 things that we wish we had known about …BEFORE we started trading the Forex :slight_smile:

Please don’t be embarrassed by any of the points you put down…if YOU thought it…it’s likely there are plenty more who are thinking the same thing…especially if a few people have raised the same point…the more people who raise that point, the more that point is relevant for everyone else…ego’s away people…Let’s just concentrate on making everyone a better trader :slight_smile:

So here are MY 5 things i wish i knew before i started trading Forex;

  1. It ISN’T “easy money” you have to work at it.

  2. You WILL lose!! Be prepared for it.

  3. Don’t dream of your winnings until you have won!!!

  4. Treat your money as a tool, like your car gets you from A to B, your initial investment in Forex is money you use to get you from THIS AMOUNT to THAT AMOUNT.

  5. When starting out, begin trading on the longest timeframe you can…the more proficient a trader you become, the smaller timeframes you will be able to handle.

Well, thats it from me…i hope many more people can contribute to this, if they do, this could become one of the most informative threads on the Forex market available…lots of experience all in one place…for free!!

Happy trading :slight_smile:

Not to sound lika a cynic or anything, but, the people who keeps the game we call “the free markets” going, are the lousy traders. This is not a post made to bash your educationing of the unexperienced, i think that it is important that all traders know this.

Trading is a zero-zum game, if a trader wins money, another trader loses/has lost money, when a trader makes a deal, he is wishing that the other participant of the deal is making one of his worst deals ever. The inexperienced is joining a game where the odds of success are 20% (at least for equities), most of the people he is trading against has done this longer than him, and/or are more educated than him. Maurizio is extremely correct when he says that this is not easy money (long term investing can be, but wheres the fun in that :stuck_out_tongue: ). A unexperienced trader would be smart to watch the market closely, look for patterns, read like crazy.

New traders who do not take precautions (education, self-education), gamblers and so on, are the food in the market food-chain, the sun in the market-ecosystem or whatever. :stuck_out_tongue:

Very nice post maurizio77, very informative and I agree with it completely. You have to work on it, to make money on Forex. I ruined one my live account once already, so I’m going to take my time with demo and I found this forum and going to learn from here and contribute when I know something.

Man, do I understand the [U][B]Wish I Knew That Before!!![/B][/U] thing.

I would have skipped the stock market and went strait Forex.

I’d actually like to add something. Now many may disagree and that’s fine, but it seems that great motivators tell you to visualize winnings, in fact many successful professional athletes do. It seems to help, but I think it is how you visualize your winnings that helps. Anyways just my opinion on the subject. Have a good one eh!

I have to agree with Shadow on the point of visualizing your winnings. If you don’t dream, then why are you here? I think the point the OP was getting across was don’t let big $$ blind you into doing stupid orders, or holding onto losses with the hope they turn around when you should have dumped them long ago.

I had this exact problem in the beginning. :o

As did/do I from time to time, still working through it…(just need to stop scalping on the side lol)

Only thing I wish I hadnt done in the beginning,

  1. Spend Thousands of buxx on FX classes, when everything you need to know is on the internet (like this glorious site :smiley: ), and in books that cost MUCH less.

I think the most expensive book I spent money on was $50, and I learned more about trading in that book than I did with all $3500 worth of “3-day classes” and “Mountain Retreat Courses in Southern California”. Plus the President of the school I went to mismanaged the money that was being collected from investors for us “Graduates” to trade on corporate accounts… just turn the knife in the wound why dont’cha lol.

While I did enjoy the classes, my pockets didnt. :frowning:

Theses are not the mechanical and operational answers you�re after, but I hope there is some value for you here. These ideas apply to any instrument traded.

I wish I knew patience to wait for the right trade.
I wish I knew that the best trades unfold over days and weeks, not minutes.
I wish I knew that I didn�t have to try to be smarter than the market.
I wish I knew that there is no system that can tell me more than the market price itself.
I wish I knew the true value of listening� to a trusted mentor�s imparted wisdom.
I wish I knew not only the financial value of interest over time, but the personal value of my time and interest.

Happy hunting�

Excellent answers all :slight_smile:

It’s interesting how those-in-the-know raise some of the same points . . .

A costly course is no contest to a self-taught Forex education.

Patience…Patience…PATIENCE !

Don’t overtrade…be that money or trades.

Longer timeframes should at least be utilised.

Visulise your winnings…a clever concept if you think about it…if you think like a winner, you’re more likely to trade like one.

Great posts guys…cheers :slight_smile:

Kudos to all contributors on this thread. Great insights all around. :smiley:

I think visualization is key to peak performance in any skill set. I would suggest not only to visualize a winning trade, but also to visualize the same trade going against you. As you visualize that, be mindful of your feelings and thought processes. Being mentally prepared for any situation is just as crucial as having the right tools for the job.

I wish!!
“I would have skipped the stock market and went strait Forex.”

wells said!!!

  1. Create/Choose a system and stick to it, do NOT deviate
    2)Use conservative leverage
    3)Do not Overtrade, wait for it, wait for it, Go In!!!
    4)I agree with the theory of looking at multiple time frames before executing a trade
    5)Always continue to learn/analyze the market

Oh so true…experience is the key…how do you get it…LEARN and Do
succeed and fail, succeed and fail, succeed and fail, succeed and fail
succeed and fail, succeed and fail, succeed and fail, succeed and fail
succeed and fail, succeed and fail, succeed and fail, succeed and fail

Do this enough and you will be experienced…"right now i am new and a sponge, tomorrow i will be older bigger…

I read this somewhere…i think it means my sponge will get bigger with time and knowlege…

anyhoo
GOOD LUCK you JEDI"S, see you on the other side

I think we need a section on Forex Sermons :smiley:

Regards, Tymen Wortel, Perth, Western Australia.

Wow! :slight_smile:

You must be digging through the long list of threads to find this one!

That suggests to me someone who’s taking this seriously. Keep it up!

That is very wise thinking.

If you haven’t already, may I suggest you have a look at posts by the user Tess. She started two threads; Alternative Technical Templates 1 and 2. The only threads here that I know of where actual institutional traders shared openly their knowledge.

There are many other worth while threads too of course, but I have a feeling you’ll find them without help…

It’s easy to spend hours upon hours reading here and then wondering: what did I DO today?

A couple of tidbits

you hunting with a shotgun standing out in the open firing at what moves?
or
you hiding in the bushes with a rifle waiting ‘patiently’ for the ‘ez’ shot.
That isn’t my stuff - but I felt it fits here
Move your stops to BE (breakeven) as soon as price allows - - being in a ‘free’ trade never costs.
one I think I heard about tiger woods way back when - - it takes many MANY years to create an overnight success. I personally like this one the best - because I feel that - it rings so true to forex especially – - you’re piddling along with micro accounts or whatever - and all that studying all that work - and all of a sudden you are risking $10 a pip or more - - – $10 bucks a pip - if you move 100 pips - $1000 overnight :slight_smile: I call that overnight success.
one more- - don’t go for broke - you will get it.
oh and
why not demo - - if you cannot be successful on it – - I am pretty sure you won’t be succesful live.

I remember spotting a pdf file awhile ago. It was a summary of the above thread. I was searching for it to no avail.

Is that file still around for download…?

A link would be very much appreciated. :slight_smile:

Thx.

I think this may be it?

Alternative Technical Templates.zip (1.87 MB)