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Old 04-12-2009, 01:31 PM
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This thread is meant to demonstrate how I use Volume (VSA) in my trading.

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Hi!
I can't fully understand how to use VSA on forex, so i may suggest that this thread can be very very interesting.
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Old 04-13-2009, 07:39 PM
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OK, I will start with the basics.

I use the "volumes" indicator that comes with mt4. The bars that appear tell you the amount of ACTIVITY per candle (if you are using candles for price, which I mainly do). So, on a 1 min chart, each volume bar tells you the amount of activity that occured during the coresponding 1 min price candle.

So, we now know the amount of activity per 1 min candle, higher volume bar means more activity. The next thing to determine is IF it's buying or selling activity. The most basic way to determine that is to ask "what did the price do". If you see price moving up during that 1 min candle, we can say there is more "buying" activity.

BUT, buying AND selling activity will occur on a candle as well. How do we know which one has the increased volume?? to put it another way, the price candle may be green BUT, what if it has a big wick on top..indicating selling as well? The answer lies in the candle close. A large wick on top, with increased volume shows us selling pressure. But needs to be taken in context with things such as s/r, and background buy and sell pressure.

Very high volume spikes can mean buying and selling in large amounts. That usually happens when for example, buyers made a final push up to resistance, where they found sellers entering, all during that one candle. So, that could cause a volume spike...lots of buyers AND sellers during that candle.

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Old 04-14-2009, 03:25 AM
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Alright,

I think we all need a little more now

Btw, it was nice to trade with you last night!

Hope I'll read you here in the forum pretty soon!

Regard.

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ok, some more about what I do. I will answer some common questions that I get.

I mainly trade gj, ej, gu and eu.

Time frames: I look at all TFs to get the big picture. If I can get a scalp trade in the direction of the larger TF move, I will sometimes let a piece of the trade run for more pips.

Method: As I said in a previous post, I include volume or "VSA" in my trading. I also use common stuff, like SR, Fibbs. Which I'd rather draw myself, but I have some simple indicators for that too. Also, patterns are very important..you can find most patterns here on babypis in the school section. I suggest memorizing them.

Entry signal: No fancy indicators. Big traders dont use the HV237 trend analyzer 3000, so why should you?? Indicators are for refence and secondary to SR, fibbs, and Volume...the only things you really need to trade VSA. The rest is bells and whistles. The idea with VSA is to KNOW what the market is doing and why, not just to be told when to buy and sell. With a basic understanding of those 3 things, the market will either make sense, and you will trade, or be undecided and you will not trade.

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Old 04-15-2009, 10:56 PM
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ok, some more about what I do. I will answer some common questions that I get.

I mainly scalp GJ, aka "the beast", because it gives more pips..it's one of the most active pairs. I also trade ej, gu and eu. I like to stay on one pair though, to focus all my attention.

Time frames: I look at all TFs to get the big picture, and use the 1 min for entry. I have a large TF and smal TF template, which are completely different as far as indicators. If I can get a scalp trade in the direction of the larger TF move, I will try to let a piece of the trade run for more pips. This way I avoid a large draw down..which I REJECT! lol

Method: As I said in a previous post, I include volume or "VSA" in my trading. I also use common stuff, like SR, Fibbs. Which I'd rather draw myself, but I have some simple indicators for that too. Also, patterns are very important..you can find most patterns here on babypis in the school section. I suggest memorizing them.

Entry signal: Wouldn't you like to know, lol. (just kidding). I dont trade blindly off indicators. That is garbage. You are smarter than your indicators by far. And big traders dont use the HV237 trend analyzer 3000, so why should you?? The indicators are for refence and secondary to SR, fibbs, and vsa...the only things you really need to trade. The rest is bells and whistles. The idea is to KNOW what the market is doing and why, not just to be told when to buy and sell (unless you have the banks ea on your pc, lol). With a basic understanding of those 3 things, the market will either make sense, and you will trade, or be undecided and you will not trade. It is that simple for me.

...more to come.
You will hate me for that but... about a video?

But seriously, thank you very much for sharing

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Default Understanding VSA

I've been very interested in VSA, and it seems like people either swear by it, or think it's useless based on the fact that currencies are over the counter, and the indicators really just count ticks. I guess ticks are price action, and price action can reflect volume. In any case, I've seen screen shots of MT4 charts at the same moment on the same pair, from different brokers that show very different volumes.

Does the broker matter when it comes to the quality of the volume data?


Lots of things confuse me about VSA.

It seems that everyone has a different term for different bars and patterns. When I first started reading on the subject, I was looking at a table of patterns. Several of the patterns said "This pattern could represent a top, a bottom, or a continuation." I thought, " This isn't very helpful... any point on a chart is a top, bottom, or continuation."

My gut tells me that VSA could be a valid tool, but when it comes to applying VSA in currency markets, the available info isn't easy to digest and apply.

Hopefully you will be able to really come down to my level, and help me wrap my head around the methodology.

Thanks
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I've been very interested in VSA, and it seems...
Thanks for the post Babatot. Yes, I am aware of the vsa in forex debate. Tick volume is very helpfull to me, I combine that info with SR, fibbs, patterns.. I'll give an example:

Lets say price is moving up to a major fib level. We are wondering if it will hit that fib level and pull back, or break up through.
One thing you will very often see, to signal a reversal back down, is this.

The 5 or 15 min price candle hit the level and pulled back forming a candle with a large wick on top. If volume level for that candle is extreamly high compared to the recent range..it's a give away. Sell orders were hit during that 5 or 15 mins, which caused the spike in volume. BUYERS push up price to hit target, found sellers, may have even closed longs and went short..all creating the increase in activity.

Try to spot this by scrolling through your 5 and 15 min chart.

1. A move up to a resistance level.
2. A 5 or 15min candle with at least 40% wick on top, and a volume spike.
3. A reversal down begins, good entry for a sell trade.

*same works in opposite direction, with a wick on the bottom of the candle.

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I will be around to learn some about this system, thank you

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