Thoughts on Amy Sangster of infiniteprosperity.com.au

[QUOTE=“konan;504642”]I thought also it was not the same person as before. Weird…[/QUOTE]

First one was Amy… The second was her midget partner logging on.

Good to know, coz I liked the first person way more.

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Good to know, coz I liked the first person way more.[/QUOTE]

Classic short person syndrome…

Don’t be a shortist!

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Don’t be a shortist![/QUOTE]


Only room in my heart for one half-man…

Lannisters ha! We shall see about that… I need to have a heart to heart talk with Khaleesi and her dragons :wink:

Though, I like him too…

Here is an interesting tidbit I found regarding Robert Himler and Amy Sangster…

"*Furthermore i decided to look into his (Robert Himler’s) wealth, being a private investigator, i used my acquired skills to do a little digging. I did some various land record searches and public record searches to see if Robert Himler truly owned what he said he owned and built what he said he built.

Well come to find out his “home” in florida at 1383 Chatfield Place Orlando, Florida and his “home” in Pennsylvania at 128 Lakewood Rd Greensburg, Pennsylvania do not actually belong to him. If you do a record search you will see that both places are owned by Robert E. Himler and Elizabeth Himler (married couple in their 50s).

Who are these people? They are his parents, just do a birth certificate look up. Need more? If you look up even more records you will see that his parents own US AUTO MART, INC. a car lot! This explains the lamborghinis etc. Even more record searches revealed that those cars are dealer cars from the lot!"

Since Robert is Amy’s boyfriend and partner in crime… And Robert’s dad owns a car dealership and according to the above reference is letting his son borrow some of his cars… You have to ask yourself how hard it would be for Amy to have access to the cars she flaunts as her own for advertising… Without ever having to pay a dime for them… The basis of her claims that she is a profitable trader so she can afford these hot cars becomes less and less likely…

So in essence… You’ve got two young people, using the parents dealership to gain access to hot cars for photoshoots… Pretending like they own the cars to substantiate their claims of being highly successful… They target the the lower intelligent and discontent 20 something’s who feel like society owes them, and who are looking to find a way to quickly gain money without much work.

Then… Amy creates a site which, to someone completely new to forex, seems like a pandora box to riches… In actuality it teaches generic trading systems (dozens of similar systems floating around on the web for free) with a dash of “winners mentality gibberish”, profiting off the subscription fee while having the convenient excuse of “well if you don’t experience success in the market it’s because of you not us!”.

What I said

What “someone” said.

There is no need for all of this drama. If Amy were to come out and answer the questions in the thread that would be better.

I saw this thread and felt the need to post…
The post from the person you are referring to does seems very much like Amy’s style of writing… I’m a member of IP.
Their strategies have been performing rather badly in the last 3-6 months, lewis and amy keep referring to the profits made late last year to try and make up for the losses but they don’t come near. Most traders will experience drawdown, but for 6 months straight, c’mon. Their facebook page has other members posting of draw-down but the posts are deleted as soon as lewis or amy see them… this kind of makes me feel sick that they are hiding this to get as many members as possible as drawdown is a part of trading so why hide this.

Here is a link of one of their members (not me) myfxbook which is constantly updated:
myfxbook.com/members/drefhill/demo-ip/601002

Here is a image from one of their members (not me) who posted a 2 of their strategies (power trends, bounces):
tinypic.com/r/2n8wv10/5

There was a post on their facebook page where Amy wasn’t even aware that the power trends strategy wasn’t doing well for several months… this almost shows that IP themselves my be no longer using these strategies… or at least power trends & bounces.

They are soon going to release a day trading version of the course… but I really hope that they assess if the current swing strategies are still valid.

These guys are not traders and it shows.

…but Amy is so beautiful…:frowning:

Instead of just posting my myfxbook stats link (i allready posted it few pages before) why not if you’re also an IP “student” opening also your own account so peoples can have more stats to compare.
I’m pretty often on their Facebook page and haven’t really realized that they delete the bad comments, i’ve made some and posted my stats and they haven’t been deleted. Once one got deleted but it was an answer to a “Facebook IP follower” so that person also had the posibility to remove the comments and not only my comment got deleted but the all topic so i really think that this person reallized by himselt that he asked something wrong and removed the all topic by himself (i don’t remember what the topic was about) i remove my own comment pretty often on Facebook sometime i even write commentsbut don’t validate them because i reallize by myself that i’m wrong or that i’ll make a mess if i post it.

How do you know that they will release a daytrading version of the course ?

The post from the person you are referring to does seems very much like Amy’s style of writing

Which person/post ?

How can you say that ? What shows ?

So i guess everyone here is waiting for your myfxbook stats.

That’s great i’m waiting to see your myfxbook stats link.

Here is an other IP student myfxbook link.
Yen System | Myfxbook

Because they are not as brave as you :wink:

Good to see you again drefhill! and thanks for giving me the summary of IP courses. Now we have a better idea of what this course is about and new traders can weight in and hopefully they can decide if this IP courses is for them or not…

Good-luck!

FIRST OF ALL. I AM NOT A INFINITE PROSPERITY STUDENT. Now that’s out of the way see below

I have learnt most of my forex knowledge from babypips, and think its a great start into what can be a confusing journey. I decided to learn how to trade forex after knowing the creator and head trader at infinite prosperity briefly, I have no affiliation with or to them. I see the problem not so much as what they are teaching but who they are teaching really, as it seems the easiest way to learn is to simply follow other people instead of forging your own path. I believe the same as most of you really, that simply paying for a course will not make you a good trader, its through trail and error and hard work ! simply buying a course to gain knowledge can leave you with very high expectations for quick profit, with minimal work put in. This is the problem with any course in forex, it attracts lazy people, and the majority would be a poor reflection of what is actually being taught. I believe the knowledge in the course at infinite prosperity is solid and when traded correctly would yield great results for the people dedicated to learning forex .

I’d say I am still a rookie trader as I have not traded live yet, but cannot wait to when I feel I am ready and have a sound knowledge of the market as a whole - technical and fundamentally. I owe so much to babypips and infinite prosperity founder getting me to realise working 6am-2p, pays the bills but not much more

Dear Sir:

I believe the line in your statement that everything that you need to know about trading forex is free and online if you take the time to find and learn it.

Would you be kind enough to give some direction to information that with your experience would be valuable to the newbie?

I think that this website and the information here is one of those websites that offers a lot of good info. Having said that what other sites could you recommend?

I appreciate any and all help from others because for me starting with limited funds and then to pay thousands of dollars for the limited training and software that most of the trainers are offering just does not really work for me. I know that education is key. And in the short time I have been at this I have found some good basic information but to me I want pure education and time on the simulator and then I will worry about software as I would rather save everything I can for the time that I start using real money.

I need to accomplish becoming a trader, period! I will not give up! So please know that I am truly grateful for anyone that takes their valuable time to point me in the right direction.

Kind Regards
Mike in Osoyoos BC Canada

Hello, Mike

Of all the threads you [I]might[/I] have chosen as a place to introduce yourself and ask for direction, this particular thread is an odd choice. As a brand-new newbie, you probably [I]should not[/I] be hanging out on “guru” threads, or on threads (like this one) meant to debunk gurus.

But, here we are. So — at the risk of hijacking this thread — I will give you my answer to your question.

[B]1.[/B] Begin with the School of Pipsology (find the [I]School[/I] tab, above).

Go through the [I]School[/I] from beginning to end at least once, with these objectives: B[/B] to get a general overview of the forex market and forex trading; B[/B] to learn the basic concepts and the basic lingo (what is technical analysis; what are moving averages; etc.); B[/B] to find out what choices you will need to make after you become more qualified to choose (what trading style best fits your personality, your risk tolerance, and your available time schedule; what mix of technical and fundamental analysis best suits you; what trading tools best suit you; etc.); and B[/B] to gather the facts you need to make an honest assessment of whether this activity is right for you (it isn’t right for everyone; and there are many newbies who spend months or years spinning their wheels, because they don’t recognize that they really don’t belong here).

On your first pass through the [I]School[/I] curriculum, your objective [I]should not[/I] be to master everything you read. You won’t be able to absorb it all, and master it all, on your first try. Maybe not even on your second or third try. If you’re going to do this forex thing, embrace the fact that you are beginning a multi-year program of self-education.

[B]2.[/B] Take a look at 3 or more retail forex brokers, choose one, and download their demo platform. Learn to navigate the platform and its built-in charting package, so that you can experiment with the things you are learning in the [I]School.[/I] As you read about new stuff in the [I]School[/I] (various time frames, pivot levels, fibonacci retracements, etc.) you can drop those things onto your charts and get some hands-on experience with them.

By the time you finish the [I]School[/I] curriculum, you should have acquired some valuable theory and practice — theory from studying the [I]School[/I] lessons, and practice from your hours on the demo account.

[B]3.[/B] Learn to use the [I]Search[/I] feature built into this Forum. There is box at the top of every page in this Forum where you can type in keywords to search the Forum archive. This feature will let you pull up previous threads and posts in which many of your questions have already been asked and answered. The trick to using this feature successfully is to identify the one word, or the few words, which capture the gist of your inquiry — and to leave out unnecessary or extraneous words. If you are good at using [I]Google[/I] or [I]Bing[/I] to search the internet, then you will have no trouble with the Babypips [I]Search[/I] feature.

[B]4.[/B] You won’t need textbooks, or other websites, until you have done 1 through 3, above. But, at some point, you will want to ask for book recommendations, or broker recommendations, or suggestions on using EA’s or robots, etc. You first step will be to search the Forum for those topics, and possibly join threads already underway on those topics.

Most of us have accumulated a personal library of books, e-books, and articles on various aspects of trading; and you will probably find yourself accumulating a library, as well. But, that’s for a bit later.

I hope this points you in the right direction.

Welcome to a fascinating journey into forex — the largest market on the planet. And welcome to this Forum.

Clint thank you very much for the detail in your response. I really appreciate the time and effort. I agree 100% with you suggestions in regard to the School…Started yesterday and plan to OWN ALL the information contained therein before I take another step. I have at least 5 hours a day for this venture and plan to be here for the long hall.

Again thank you so much for taking the time and sorry about using the wrong thread

Mike in Osoyoos Canada

New here, searching this company also. I need 5 posts first to be able to introduce myself. Sorry for the random post

No, you don’t need 5 posts to be able to introduce yourself.

Go to the forum called Introduce Yourself, and do just that — introduce yourself.

And you’re right — your post does not belong in this thread.

Maybe, but I think we already have a mascot:

About

a.k.a. ‘Queen Cleopiptra’, FX-Honorary Woman Extraordinaire!!

Anyway, there are enough Infinite Prosperity threads… Here is one:

http://forums.babypips.com/newbie-island/58217-infinite-prosperity.html

An interesting one: