Basic Question...?

Hi! Newbie from Canada here… I’m going through the pips school and before I go any further I got a very basic question:

In the pre-school basic when it says: [B]Forex trading is the simultaneous buying of one currency and the selling of another.[/B] I don’t fully grasp that concept… Why does it have to be bought in pairs? Can anybody explain it maybe in a different way or through different words or with different exemples then in the pre-school so I can understand it 100%?

It’s the selling of another that I don’t get… If I buy the pair EUR/USD, it means I’m buying both the EUR and the USD? But then automatically or instantly when I buy the pair, the USD get sold… so I end up with the EUR only…? So I don’t really owned a pair anymore…? Is that it? I’m confused…

Sorry but I need some more explanation to grasp that, and I’m more a visual type of person, so sometimes anything visual, like charts or graph’s helps me to understand…

Thanks.

Patso

When you make a trip overseas you exchange your domestic currency for that of the country you’re visiting. For example, dollars for pounds. You are buying the pounds with your dollars. Likewise, the dealer is buying your dollars with pounds.

Forex trading is based on the exact same mechanism, just on a larger scale and electronically.

Anybody whant to give it a try answering my basic question…?

I thought rhodytrader did. I will give it a try too.

You are not actually buying or selling. You are exchanging. You exchange one currency for the other in the efforts to exchange it back with a manipulation of the currencies value to each other.

In retail spot forex, none of this really matters. There are no actual exchanges taking place, just forward contracts that never end because they are renewed each day. That is kind of advanced and doesn’t matter either.

The only thing that matters is to be long (buy) on a pair that goes up, or short (sell) on a pair that goes down. All the other shop talk is just to impress women at the bar.

I’m sure you understand that the game is to predict what one country’s currency value will be compared to another country’s currency in the future… the foreign exchange rate. You indicate your predition by placing an order with your broker on the pairs your broker makes available to you. ie USD/CAD, EUR/USD etc

Placing a long (buy) order means you will make a profit if the base (first) currency increases in value against the 2nd currency of the pair at the time you close the order. A Short (sell) order means you will make a profit if the base currency decreases in value against the 2nd currency at the time you close the order.

Now if the concept of selling something you don’t own is what’s got you, then think of it this way… [I]"[B]The concept of short selling involves borrowing stock you do not own, selling the borrowed stock and then buying and returning the stock when the price drops.[/B]" [/I]…

So in forex market:

For a long order you are “buying the first currency” with the “borrowed money of the second currency”;

For a short order you are in effect “borrowing the first currency” to “buy the second currency”.

The “margin used” part of your account balance is like what is being held as collateral for the “borrowing” part while an order is open.

[U][B]So to recap[/B][/U]

if you buy the USD/CAD pair, you are buying USD with borrowed CAD dollars (when you close you are paying back the CAD with USD and if the USD went up you are left with a profit, otherwise you pay the difference from your account balance (a loss )

if you sell the USD/CAD pair, you are borrowing USD to buy CAD (when you close, you are paying back the USD with CAD so if the CAD went up then you have a profit, otherwise you pay the difference from your account balance (a loss).

The only actual exchange rate you ever have to deal with is between you and your broker if they require a different currency when you send in your initial margin, or hopefully later when you withdraw it.

Phew…Hopefully that helps :slight_smile:

Thanks guys…thanks sweet pip… got it now the way you put it in details but simple with the exemple made it clear in my head now… I think I’m going to like the pip school and this forum…!

Patso :slight_smile:

Welcome to the forum Patso.

Trust you will learn and profit much. :slight_smile: :slight_smile: :slight_smile: :slight_smile:

Here’s another example:

Your momma so fat she has to carry euros in one pocket and pesos in the other:D (by: Chris Rock?)

ok… not a good example at all and off topic. I just wanted to share it.

Allow me to try and explain this for you. First off that is a great question. Actually when you are buy or selling a pair you are really not buying or selling the currency itself. This is the surrency spot market. What you are buying or selling is the rate of exchange between the two pairs. Okay, now in the pair EUR/USD the first pair the EUR is the base currency. And the second currency is the cross currency. Which means this. When the market goes up in this pair the base currency is gaining strength and the cross currancey is weakening. In value agains one another. ( the exchange rate.) So to recap this when you buy the EUR/USD you are buying the strength of the EUR against the USD. And when you sell the EUR/USD you or in essence buying hte USD’s strength againsthe EUR. I hope this has helped and not confused you more I will await for your response to detemin if i did a good or poor job of expalining this.

To be more precise, you’re not really buying or selling anything. You are long or your are short. Actually, you are long and short. Where long, you benefit from appreciation. Where short, you benefit from depreciation.

rhodytrader,

Good clarification thanks!

Glad to help out!

…and I’m glad my question helped othewr people to… thanks everybody!

Even if I’m new here, I love this forum already!!!

Patso