Can We Believe The Chinese Economic Numbers?

Friday 13th 2012. One of the reasons given for the modest rally in European stocks today is the Chinese GDP released last night. It had been estimated the quarters GDP would be down to 7.7%, last year it was 8.1%. The GDP quarterly number came in at 7.6%, almost as good as expected. There were other numbers released for Fixed Asset Investment, Industrial Production, and Retail Sales, and all the numbers came out at minor changes from the guesses.

The quarterly growth rate of 7.6% is the lowest rate since the first quarter of 2009, and down from a growth rate of 8.1% in the first quarter. Rarely do we have fundamental Chinese economic numbers that surprise the market. Is this because the Chinese observers are better guessers? Since the Chinese economy is managed, what are the chances the numbers are, shall we say, massaged?

True knowledge is when one knows the limitations of one’s knowledge.

Accurately measuring activity in a country as large as China is difficult and manipulation of the numbers only makes it more difficult. A better measurement of the health of the Chinese economy might come from other observations, including that the profits of steelmakers have collapsed, heavy equipment manufacturers are in trouble, manufacturing has slowed, as has the demand for electricity. This has resulted is a surplus of coal at ports and warehouses. With textile demand slowing, the cotton inventory at the ports has increased. In Macau, the casino revenue growth is reported to be down sharply.

Will the end of the business cycle result in a hard landing or not? The debate continues. Perhaps the Chinese economy will make the transition from exporting to a domestic consumption economy, during the next several years. Despite what Chinese officials are claiming, we – and probably they – do not know how this will end.

Should the Chinese have a hard landing after their recent bubble, demand for basic commodities such as iron ore and coal will obviously slow. Naturally, the A$ would be hurt since China is their biggest trading partner. In our last COT Report, specs in the Aussie futures were about even, so it would not take too many risk-on players to send the A$ back higher.

The US equity markets are firm today, and the Euro, after making a new low around 1.2165 is trying to reverse. The specs remain short and bearish so a reversal would grab their attention. Knowing the market is loaded short, Goldman projected the Euro is about to rally, with a one-year target of 1.40. On the monthly chart the Euro is flirting with the 200 month MA at 120.60. Maybe it is due for a rally, but on Friday the 13th someone else can trade it.

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I believe the answer is NO

There’s no chances of improvement in the Euro zone in the near term.

If you believe manipulation of numbers happens in China, it is safe to say that this also happens elsewhere.
I believe it is highly prevalent so we all should always be vigilant whenever we get fed by related information (on the news, tv, radio, internet).

Fring, I’m also rather dubious of most numbers being massaged, but how China expects anyone to believe they can compile GDP in 2 weeks when it takes countries like the USA, Australia and other months is really stretching credibility.

They also show growth, yet electricity consumption for manufacturing is falling quite drastically.

They have 1.3 billion people. probably they are using this to their advantage. :slight_smile:

I am not too familiar with electricity consumption in their country, but I know that women under 30 are frequently going out to meet their would-be husbands at bars or clubs (Chinese women are “unwanted” in their society when they are past 27 years of age). This phenomenon might partly explain the electricity growth. :slight_smile:

where do you get your data (manufacturing, etc.)?
As of February 2012, manufacturing surveys (PMI) were reportedly better than most people have expected - US, China, Euro area, and for some East Asian economies. Granted, the environment and statistics may have deteriorated since then.

Australia has got two big trade partners ex-China: Japan, and East Asia, and I believe they are continually expanding and improving their trading ties.

Fring, if you think you can cant 1.3 billion numbers faster than you can count 20 million, be my guest…

Their electricity consumption is data can be found in places like Reuters and others that also offer some commentary on it.

I fail to see how women chasing guys in nightclubs has anything to do with a 7.1% fall in primary industrial electricity use though…

I don’t blindly trust any data, but I think the Chinese is the most open to local officials upholding the party line in what they will report

Just brilliant.