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Starting a new thread for this Global crisis that is affecting us all…

The Snake-Oil Salesmen and the COVID-Zero Con…

A Classic Bait-And-Switch for a Lifetime of Booster Shots (Immunity as a Service)

These vaccines were never going to be able to eradicate SARS-CoV-2 and here’s the science explaining it.



Some very Interesting reading demonstrating how these vaccines are simply not working and are driving the mutations of these variants… I quipped months ago that “The vaccinated would kill us…”

The data contained in this report demonstrates not a single instance of a country noting a decrease in cases following initiation of these vaccines. You will also see the Pressure Selection of different variants of the virus beginning with Alpha, then Beta, Delta, and now Mu. Like the indiscriminate use of antibiotics, the indiscriminate use of Mass Vaccination has not eradicated the problem, but has promoted Pressure Selection of these Variants.

You can read below how I linked information on the possibility of max vaccinations generating survival of the fittest variants over 8 months ago (See Below)

More information on SARS-CoV2 and the Vaccines are discussed at a molecular level by Dr Fleming.

As usual, proof that this article is not coming from a clueless paid for content talking head.

Dr. Richard Fleming - PhD, MD, JD

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Another of the many Conspiracy Theories around COVID now confirmed to be correct.

Dr. Anthony Fauci has been lying to the US Congress about his involvement and the funding of Gain of Function research in Wuhan China…

Next domino to fall will be the confirmation that this Virus originated in the Wuhan Lab and not the Batshite crazy theory that it originated in a Chinese wet market.

This article from May 2021 has now been proven to be absolutely on target. Front and center in this is the dubious Peter Daszak, WHO has his finger prints all over the origins of this COVID Pandemic…

The difference between a Conspiracy and fact… Is currently running at about 6 months.

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Around the same time as Ancell Keys Then !

Great pickup @Falstaff, The COVID Vaccine rollout is just a case of history repeating…

No coincidence that it’s the same Pharmaceutical players a few decades on…

For those that have a short attention span… Watch from the 35min mark and you can see how big Pharma played with the trials, the data and the truth about Statins.

Even in Australia the Statin Lipitor would have to be the most prescribed drug for the over 40’s…

COVID Vaccines are just the new and improved model for a hugely profitable window of opportunity…

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Is this the same Dr Richard Fleming barred in 2018 by the FDA after finding that he has 2 felonies that involved fraud - surely not since your research would easily discover such details?
Federal Register :: Richard M. Fleming; Denial of Hearing; Final Debarment Order

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The linked piece is by Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche.

Here is an opposing view from Mcgill - if interested zoom down to the bottom summary.

The Doomsday Prophecy of Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche | Office for Science and Society - McGill University

The US Food and Drug Administration announced the resignations of two top vaccine officials on Tuesday, and reports said the two were leaving the agency in anger over the Biden administration’s plan to roll out COVID-19 booster shots before the officials had a chance to approve it… Just Wow… Again?

These two lead the FDA office in charge of approving vaccines… What’s gone wrong??


@peterma, I think we have had this discussion once before? I have read this hit piece from Canada’s McGill University. Which I take as nothing more than a character assassination attempt after the Take Home Messages at bottom…

“Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche is a veterinarian? who recently released an open letter boldly claiming that the COVID-19 vaccines will be harmful to humanity by allowing the virus to mutate in dangerous ways”

Once again have a look at his decades of vaccine work on his Linkedin Page

Then read Dr Richard Flemming’s scientific data filled article and see which is closer to reality…

You won’t find much there that you can dispute!

"He is hardly a masterminded medical criminal… He’s the only Doctor in the history of the United States to defraud Medicare and Medicaid healthcare benefit program for services he did not provide… And fabricated data on a Soy Chip??

On a clinical study of a soy chip food product for the purpose of evaluating health benefits. As Fleming admitted during his guilty plea, he received approximately $35,000 for conducting a clinical trial, but he fabricated data for certain subjects".

Feel free to continue to play the man… I’ll continue to play the ball…

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This is the second time you have posted this item which is little more than a thinly veiled hit-piece masquerading as a scientific critique. Heavy on speculation and extremely light on facts. Veterinary medicine is an extremely demanding profession with many overlaps with human medicine, many of the medications, treatments and challenges are common and to belittle it speaks volumes to the authors ignorance.

As for the take-home message it is total garbage. The Dr is not the only voice raising the alarm about vaccinating in the midst of a pandemic. Prof. Luc Montagnier also raised the same issue in several interviews.

They can’t reformulate because all they have is a highly speculative, and as it turns out a highly ineffective approximation of a Covid-19 spike protein which neither confers immunity or prevents transmission. The circus around variants is a sideshow to distract from the failure of the vaccines to achieve any of their goals. There are several cheap and effective protocols that have far superior outcomes to the ‘vaccines’ which are causing deaths in unprecedented numbers.
And whether the Dr is working on a new type of vaccine and has yet to publish is totally

The whole tone of the article stinks. It would be much like describing Ian Botham as a moderately talented rugby player with an interest in cricket.


And for more good news:

From today Denmark has removed all restrictions - no masks, no covid passports, no crowd gathering limits, sing and dance in venues until your heart is content.

“We’re aiming for free movement …What will happen now is that the virus will circulate and it will find the ones who are not vaccinated,” epidemiologist Lone Simonsen (Uni Roskilde).
“Now the virus is no longer a societal threat, thanks to the vaccine,” she added.

Hey ho hey ho, it’s off to work we go :slight_smile:


An interesting thread, thanks to all participants. We get this at home on a daily basis. One of four of us refused to be vaccinated on the grounds mentioned on here. Two over-sixties and two under-30s make up our happy household.

We also have quite a few friends (surprisingly a lot more than I thought to be willing to question the status quo), who do not see the logic of the authorities’ insistence that mass vaccination will lead to herd immunity.

I am a bit on the fence with this. At one level, I am glad to have had the opportunity to be vaccinated as has my wife and (now) our younger son. And I feel a bit peed off that our elder son is so insistent not to have it despite having parents who are in high risk category for having compromised auto-immune systems.

On the other hand, we have done with nearly 80% of our life, and our offspring have hopefully not lived one third of theirs yet. I know if I were their age or younger, I would probably object too. So I am comfortable with the younger generation making their own decisions. But what about our friend who suffers from MS, arthritis and a few other complaints. She is not yet over 50. It turns out that she never had any conventional vaccines when she was a child (hippy parents?) and I blame her parents for that, and now she did not have her children vaccinated either. And I blame her for that. After years of eradicating some of the most crippling diseases, they are returning. And I would put my money on one of the top reasons being that unless everyone is vaccinated, those debilitating diseases will return to the poor people who did not participate in that “I am alright Jack” mindset. I accept the risk of dying from accepting to take the vaccinations, just as I accept to buy lottery tickets every week without being upset when I do not win the lottery.

For Forex traders, which side of the fence to sit on should be an obvious choice (as I took the wrong choice about seven years ago not having stents fitted, only to require emergency heart surgery three times about three years after my refusal. And it is this:

What is the risk of doing something when compared with doing nothing. At the time of my decision, the consultant told me there was a 2.5% risk of having a heart attack during the operation, and a 1.5-2% chance of dying on the operating table. So I refused to have the stents. Three years later my consultant (another heart surgeon) related to me that NHS had realized that they were great at telling only half the story, and had changed their advice to doctors and specialists to talk through the relative risk with patients - not to treat them as medical idiots. So he said the prior consultant should have added "but the risk of you not having stents is that your annual risk of having a heart attack or angina attack is 5% !!

Had I had that information seven years ago I would have voluntarily had the stents, and most likely would not have had to suffer later when I was on business overseas. At least I got really good stents in Italy - better than the ones in the UK, apparently.

So do we have the statistics to be able to make a value judgement on Covid 19? I don’t think so. We need evidence based risk analysis and it seems that there is insufficient evidence to date from which to draw valid conclusions. And we also tend NOT to believe the spin doctor specialists when they are accompanied on TV by the top politicians - are you telling me this to remain in your job because the boss stood next to you will fire you if you don’t tow the party line? Or are we genuinely being told the truth in a manner of delivery that does not require us to have to analyze complex and sometimes banal and meaningless “graphs” that change every five minutes?

I am undecided, because I have not seen the evidence based comparative risk assessment, and in this case I won’t be trading the Covid-19 outcomes.


Yet more good news from another little corner of the globe, this time Ireland.

Today the country has hit the 90% mark for adult vaccination. This news nonetheless is tinged with caution : The incidence rate of Covid-19 has decreased over the last fortnight, and the numbers of people in hospital and ICU have stabilised, the Chair of the Irish Epidemiological Modelling Advisory Group has said.
(source RTE)

Incidence has decreased over the last 14 days, and numbers in hospital and ICU have stabilised. The 7-day average case count has fallen from 1784 to 1421. But this is still very high. Vaccination is giving us great protection, and making it difficult for the virus to spread ….
(Source twitter - Prof Philip Nolan )

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Israel has been at 90% and is struggling with the hospitalizations.
The line of thinking that makes the most sense to me is the vax makes the virus continue to mutate to survive…


Have you thought you may be confusing cause and effect? What evidence is there that the vaccination causes the mutation? Isn’t it just as likely that the mutations are happening more quickly as more people have become infected by Covid 19 before, during or after they were vaccinated? Isn’t this the same reason why influenza is so difficult to vaccinate against because when you make the vaccine you just take an educated guess on what variant will be most prevalent next year? And if they get that wrong as they have many times in the past, the public declares that the vaccination in ineffective. They don’t say “they guessed the wrong mutation was going to be most virile” Better luck next year.

Aye, I got those numbers quoted me a few times, seems they have to do so in case you die and then make claim for negligence :slight_smile:

For me it was a no brainer i just asked for the form and signed. Perhaps a more difficult decision was chemo - here was a cocktail of drugs that I knew would have severe side effects and the time scale on offer was 6 months.

There were numbers quoted similar to your stent procedure and I had one week to decide.

In the end I took the poison - turned out was a life saver (although little hair since but working on that).

Bottom line is that I learned not to listen to fear - thanks for sharing Mondeo, glad you made it out the other side - and see that 20% that’s left - it will be brilliant.

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Nah. I don’t think that deep.

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This is not actually the truth - Israel’s R number dropped today to 0.80 - (below 1.00 is contraction)

The seriously ill number was also down to 672 - more than half not vaccinated according to Health Ministry. Of those 672, 173 are on respirators.

Source: Ido Efrati / Haaretz - today 10/9/21 - leads with the headline: covid continues to Shrink in Israel, Serious Cases in Decline.

No doubt the vaccinations helped then, right?

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Or maybe it’s just luck - you are a trader so where is the edge?

That all depends on this weeks definition of ‘vaccinated’.

0 shots = unvaccinated
1 shot = unvaccinated
2 shots under two weeks ago = unvaccinated
2 shots over six months ago = unvaccinated
3 shots with the final more than two week ago = vaccinated

It is impossible to quantify Israel’s current vaxxed vs unvaxxed status without a fixed point of reference especially since that point of reference is constantly changing. Once the fourth shot is mandated all previously vaccinated will immediately become unvaccinated.

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