Don't Make Trading Harder than it is

Thank you for your answer!

The way I trade, well, try to trade is very simple.

[U]I use mosly two chart:[/U]

  1. 4 Ticks chart
  2. 5 mins chart

I look the 5 mins chart and try to find what’s is going on.

[U]Im looking for:[/U]
A) breakout
B) end of consolidation
C) when the price slow down to go the other way

All of this using S/R MACD Scholastic and Fibonacci.

Then I make my move, and, now, since I lost me 16k, set a stop lost about 7/11 pip.

The price almost always hit the stop lost.

But it’s a “good” thing, because price often continue in the same direction.

I have only 3 pips of spread to covert for a free risk trade and I can’t even covert that most of the time.

SO, the big question is, what the hell is wrong with my strategy???

:frowning:

P.S: As always, feel free to not answer that but, do you live from your income from forex alone?

Thanks!

yes I trade full time since October last year. I don’t feel qualified to rate your strategy as I have never looked at a tic chart in my life, My stop and entries are passed off swings and fiblevels and support resitance levels et… trendlines what ever is available. but stops and targets are also the same areas. not sure if your get those patterns on a tic chart.

So, if I understand, we do about the same thing except we use different time frame for ours chart…

I know you use almost all of them but, if you had to choose two of them for the rest of your life… Which two would those be?

Thank you.

Just wanted you to know that I’m reading your posts with great interest. Ive recently begun to lean towards trading price action and getting rid of those fancy lagging indicators.

I’m thinking about trendlines and horisontal S/R-lines and maybe linear regression, which is beatiful to look at, but maybe less useful than trendlines after all.

Have you any experience to share on regression lines vs trendlines?

Best regards

I would use 15 and 5 , But the 15 would have been made a 2 or 4 hr at the begging of trading to spot potential turning areas and then reverted back to 15… That way the lines are on my trading chart. I have gone over alot of this already… I don’t use any indicator except the slow stochastic.8,3,3 only to show divergence… but we are gettign ahead of our program here…

Did u get my e-mail ??? Ken Lee

No I have never used it , There are a lot of iindicators and they all work for someone are they wouldn’t be there but all the variables of how to set them up etc… I just don’t know… I like looking at the chart and choosing my trades from them alone … We are getting close to putting it all together,

  Ken Lee  :)

I sent you a e-mail through babypips … Private message me your e-mail address… Ken

Hi Kenneth!

Are you going to explain to us that divergence strategy? cause that would be great! :smiley:

later… Yes…We aren’t there yet…:stuck_out_tongue:

More Fibonacci stuff

Lets look at the fib tool a little more as we had a break upwards on the GBP/USD today … Lets see how we would handle that… As you can see we dre our fib on the 15 minute from 1.4425 to 1.4051 I placed yellow lines there for clarity… Most of the afternoon yesterday price sat on the 61.8% fib level which is one of the prime turnaround levels… As we discussed the other day if you would have gotten into this trade of that line. And was excepting to go way down you might have been disappointed it would have been a good 40 pip trade. But it was hours later when it finally dropped almost a 100 pips.It just wasn’t ready yet, But if you had placed your stop above the 61.8% line. You could have been in the trade to take those pips. I wouldn’t have been I would have entered on the break of the consolidation area and did get a bit from it.

Anyway as long as the price was below the 61.8% line we were looking for the price to come back down. But it broke above the 78.6% line and then the top of the fib.. This means this fib is no longer of use to us.. So we need another one for new levels..

So we zoom our chart out to a 2 hr chart and look for the next biggest swing . and redraw our fib from 1.4997  to 1.3500. We can now see the price is hovering around the 61.8% level again.

This will be another possible turning point. We will have to wait and see. But this is how we use our fib tool if it is broken and of no use move it. You can also do these levels ahead of time then zoom back down to a 15 min chart leaving the lines on it . Then if it breaks the level you know the next area. Which if your in a trade gives you a profit target area.

                  Good Trading To All    Ken Lee     :rolleyes:



Ken,

I would urge you to continue posting here. I’ve been following along, enjoying your posts. I trade in a manner similar to yours, except on a longer timeframe - usually off of 4 hour and daily charts - and your posts have been helpful to me.

So, if you’ll continue post, I’ll continue to follow along. :smiley:

Good trading to you,

Jon

Support And Resistance Levels

The support and resistance levels are a known variable in our trading. They are known because they are arrived form historical

data. To find these levels we only have to look to our left on our charts. As we have seen with our other tools , they are available to us on every time frame chart. But those in the higher time frames carry more weight ( are more important).

These areas can be turning areas or conituation areas dependent on how the current price is reacting to them. I will try and explain how I see the interaction of price at these levels. On the higher time frames. The area looks as we normally think of this levels. There is prices moving up and turning back down and prices moving down and turning backup. and the odd breakout or through areas as well.

 On the smaller time frames these same areas can and do look like consolidation areas . This is because as we can now see the actual struggle of the buyers and sellers as it unfolds..  But at some point one side or the other will prevail and price will turnaround or break through.. This is why I believe so many Blogers use reference to might ywar mongers as  this to them is a battle.. Let us not add any power to the act of war and see it for what it is... Buying and Selling..

As I believe it to be ( could be right could be wrong) Price is moving up to a known resistance area. It can be resistance for 2 reasons. It can be a place that some have choosen to place stops or it can be a place where others feel it is time for a change of direction in price. So as everything else in life we don't have to deal in absolutes, which most of us actually do, (Unfortunatelly as soon as you let that go and understand anything can and will happen you will be a better trader for it. )

Anyway price is moving up to a known resistance area. It may push right through it , As happens time and again at 00 numbers, I believe this is caused by 2 things . The big players may not show there cards by having orders peviuoslly placed and the time lag between the movement and the execution of those orders allows price to spike through. The second is that the price is moving on such a fundamental issue (news) and is such a large group of buyers it would take a great amount of sellers at this area to even slow it down, and sometimes doesn't and it just blows through. 

But during what I consider normal trading I believe that price is held back by the amount of money wanting to be sold at this level which stops the  price and reverses it at least in the short term. Then as we watch more attempts to break this area, which is more buyers seeing that the move up might be the right choice, are one buyer determined to break it.  If the Buyer/s has more money to buy than the sellers has money to sell the area will break.

But if the seller has a lot more at risk he could offer more up to be sold, or other selllers can see this as a selling or short oppurtunity till the buyer/s lose interest and the price starts to retrace.

In the Big boys game of Forex these levels aren't absulote like us day traders take them . We use them to enter or exit trades. They use them to add on or to reduce there risk. Until they know what ever swing they are riding is over. 

     We looked at swings earlier and as everything else we have shown they are on every time frame, and each is as important as the other dependent on who is looking at it, But that being said the real players in Forex The Big Boys look at longer times to gauge the total picture and make there plans. That being said take a look at the GBP/USD on the Weeklly chart. It is at a area of great concern making new lows. But that ride down was 7,500 pips off a pin bar doji.. or you could have waited for the lower high swing to enter would have lost a thousand pips and waited 5 months to enter... Not my patient level..  

We will also see that supprt and resistance levels tend to gravitate near 00 and 50 areas. This is understandable , as I am sure the main players with there team of 30 analysis and the mailroom boy making sure someone didn’t write a economic comic about the president, aren’t going to say well 1.2831 is interesting more than likelly 1.2850 or 1.2800… Just my thinking.

The attached chart is the GBP/USD 1 hr I tend to draw S/R lines on a higher chart the zoom it in to smaller time frame. I can see the areas easily on my 15 or smaller charts.The circles are showing price enteracting with the S/R lines.

We trade support and resistance lines the same as Trendlines … Bounces and breakouts. We also have to be concerned with the fake breakouts just the same as trendlines.

   Good Trading To All        Ken Lee      :)

ps. If you draw your S/R lines off higher times then zoom down in time you may want to save them on your chart as there imortance never goes away and can come into play way down the line time wise…Next week or next month , when ever price revisits that area.


Hi Kenneth,

You are offering alot of valuable info in this thread. Great to see you touching on my favourite topic support and resistances. :slight_smile:

Classic Support and Resistance Trading

 We will now finish our discussion on Support and Resistance. I am now showing the S/R area on a 15 min. GBP/USD chart. Nice area was obvious to see . When you see a area like the circled high lites. This is resistance as it is holding the price down.. Then it broke above and the first blue arrow shows the retest of the line which is now Support as it is supporting price. All the blue arrows show good Long trades and there was a couple of shorts available earlier..

Anytime you are trading keep looking to the left on your chart and you will start to see areas that have had a grouping of wicks. These areas of S/R where price has tried to break through and failed. This is your sign of available trading areas. As it WILL retest those areas giving you many trades…

The chart I am showing is the GBP/USD of today and as it was in a uptrend at the time you will notice that the long trades continued to make higher highs. But if your Conservative and don't get to greedy all those long trades were good for over 30 pips each. I watch my 1 min chart for when the price starts to slow to exit..


   Good Trading To All    Ken Lee      :)


News Trading ( Danger , Danger !!! )

    This being the first week of the month and one of the busiest weeks for big news . I thought we should give a little space to that strategy as it is one that causes major loses to lots of people. I was 

waiting for some type of movement from the news which we got off the ECB rate anouncement this morning.

 There are so many reasons that make news trading a almost no win situation. The following I am sure is only a small list of why not to do it.. First is the brokers, At the time of news anouncements they are overwhelmed with orders. This causes you to not get filled or they slip your entry as they don't have anyone willing to take your price it is moving so fast. My favorite is when they just hold it and then fill it a long ways from where you wanted in minutes later. Then there is the fact that price moves in both directions as some people mainlly new traders don't understand the release and push price the wrong way first. Then the big guys push it in the direction it should go..  This is what we wait for... If you HAVE to trade news..

  We don't fight to get in, this is just another instance of chasing trades. Plus it normally hasn't settled into the proper direction yet.

Which for our purposes we don’t really care if it is right or wrong we just want it to settle one way or the other. When watching News trade try and get your mind into it mentally. Thin of the other players think about the people who have no idea and get in going the wrong way , or the ones that get there orders filled badlly and need to get out quick. Wtach the price action on a fast chart 5 or 1 min. Then thin about what your seeing… You will see price head the wrong way you will see scared traders taking a very little bit of profit. Then you will see the action calm down and after all the new retail players stop messing around the big guys will get the price moving in direction they want it to go… This is what we want… Then price will act as it always does just faster… S/R levels big number almost all come into play… And this is when you Might if you have too. Can enter… Let’s look at todays trade…

 The first chart is 15 min GBP/USD chart the circled area is the 1 candle after the news anouncement at 7:00 this morning. As you can see there isn't any place to enter unless you got in at the first.. Which unless you have a very good broker didn't happen..

The next is the 5 min same area arrows marking the top and bottom of the 15 min candle area. Not really entry areas on that time frame either… What to do… Missing all this great move… Darn !!!

The next is the 1 min… Alrighty that’s better see how price pulled back at the 1.4550 area a big number… then carried on. This is the safest news trade. You get filled, price has picked a direction, and you had a pullback some people taking profit. Which as we have already learned to go up we wait for a down first… If you trade this News you must have a tight stop. It can turn on you at any moment and limiting loses is the top priority in this game.

        He Who Loses The List Wins...

It carried on up to another big number 1.4650 and started to lose momentum the last 2 green candles having long wicks shows us that. The buyers are losing on this one now and then the sellers take over and it starts back down…

So to sum up if you HAVE to trade the news. Do so smartlly don't rush in the best entry is the first good pullback area after it has picked a direction .. If it is bouncing around and hasn't made it's mind up as where to go STAY OUT.. It isn't worth losing your money..

 [B]I don't suggest trading the news [/B],,, it is to risky.. If you do, 

use less than your standard trades until you get it down… Watch the action and learn first… Put yourself in the moment how would you react, what would your emotions be doing… Feel the charts… They are showing you the emotions of all the traders. That is why during the first of the news trade it looks like anxeities are running high… They are, a lot of scared frightened people out there losing money.

                                 Good Trading To All    Ken Lee    :confused:




Divergence and Convergence (Hidden) ???

 I can't remember all the different names for the VERGENCES. So I just do what I do... Babypips has a very good section on this with great pictures you can print off and have in front of you while you trade... I just know that Divergence is the disagreement of the price action to a price oscillator indicator I use the Slow Stochastic Settings 8,3,3 0r 8,3 . On the 15 Min time frame charts.. 

The way I see it is that price and the Stochastic get out of sync and have to try and get back together… I place trades based on where the price is on my Stochastic… I have a couple of charts I attached from Friday… So lets go through some trades…

On the GBP 15 Min. I am showing 4 possible trades let's go through each. The No.1 trade the price made a Higher High but stochastic Is making a Lower High. The Stochastic is Above the over sold line at 80. So I would be looking for a Short here. Once the Stochastic starts to turn and Cross it is confirmed divergence and we short. Good for a 100 pips.. 

No. 2 We have 3 trades here. The first lines indicated with green arrows. The first is the purple arrow, This trade would work if you were just confirming a long with this . The stochastic turned but didn't cross.. and went 30,40 pips then came back down.. The yellow arrows show the second trade where Stochastic turned then crossed good for over 60 pips.. 

 The third and best trade is the last came down below the other 2 . But the divergence setup was further time ( longer). Stochastic turned up and crossed and went up over 100 pips.  

 So what do we now know about divergence's.. The longer time frame it is spread over the stronger or better the trade.. ( just like everything else we look at Bigger chart times better information).

 If the Indicator is above the Midpoint Look for shorts if below look for longs.. 

  If The indicator is turning and then crosses stronger trade. But just turned can workout also.

Also when you are checking for Divergence on your charts use your cross hairs as sometimes it can make a difference just a candle or two..

 If you use this with your other tools it is a great confirming tool. But Divergence is also a very powerful trading strategy in its own right and can and is used be itself.. Again this is my take on this and how I see it and it's use.

The EUR chart is also from Friday 15 minute..  And shows possibility of 3 trades.. 

       Good Trading To All    Ken Lee



Here is a link to John’s thread on divergence has a excellent pdf and avi on it… Give it a read… Ken :):slight_smile:

301 Moved Permanently

We have now seen most of the tools commonlly used in technical analysis. In deciding the next direction of price. We will get started on putting them to use in the next section. So if your not clear on any of the previous post you might want to re-read them as we will be combining and using them together to get highe precentage trades…

   Good Trading To All  Ken Lee    :rolleyes:

Wow Ken great thread!!! I see I have some reading to do to catch up. Very good stuff and I hope all traders will benfit from your efforts. I can’t wait to see the applications part next :smiley:

We will get started on putting them to use in the next section

great info Kenneth, thanks for taking the time to put it all together - have followed along, now processing it all and trying to link everything into workable plan, have been attempting to follow a similar strategy, but keep getting into a tangle when trades don’t work out - then my plan goes to pot, as does my confidence. I find the balance between giving a trade room to breathe and knowing when it’s a loser tricky. i’ve tried a wider stop but find it hard to recoup the loss, so tried tighter stop, but then i just end up with more losing trades - albeit smaller losses, in the end they mount up to roughly the same. A bit off topic for your thread so apologies - and thanks again all your hard work here. cheers