does the EU want the UK to stay? me personally not anymore. UK brought destabilization to the EU and even if they stay they will demand things which will destabilize the EU even further. rather an end with a shock than a never ending shock.
now the damage is done. the bomb has exploded. EU and europe has shown how fragile construction it is. UK staying and demanding silly things for their stay will not make it better or make it unhappen and give trust to the EU back.
there ya go you see…
you really are one of the many regular fans/viewers 
don’t be so fractious bobby boy, smile & the world smiles with you, well certainly 52% of the UK anyway
as master cratchit famously uttered….“god bless us everyone”
right, best hot foot it off the boozer for the [B]remain[/B]der (hehe get it?) of the day & sink a few celebratory sherbets!
toodle pip & have a wonderful weekend one & all
& remember…[I]the futures bright - the future’s red white & blue![/I]
interesting.
Brexit leaders saying “no hurries with the brexit” obviously only now realizing what they did. while EU is pushing for a quick exit as soon as possible.
scottland pronounced a new referendum.
ireland pronouncing a new referendum.
gibraltar pronouncing cooperation with EU and Spain.
EU staying strong and not trying to negotiate witj UK at all.
like i said. the average voter does still not know what his “out” vote caused or will cause in future.
and its funny how “bum bum boris”, the leader of the brexit campaign, is surprized of the effects this is having on the markets and the GBP.
Yes, Turbo, you are right…
Even the Frankfurt-London stock exchanges
third merger attempt is now endangered…
we got some interesting months ahead.
We do, Turbo…
ANyway, glad to see you enjoyed your Swiss holiday
not really. if you want the truth: im sad all day. and nature i couldmt enjoy as i simply constantly followed the reactions of the EU on todays results.
it is as ive been expecting it. no extra saussage for UK. choosed to leave and now EU us pushing it to be fast and sharp. no “please stay UK!!!” from any side of the eu. its exactöly the other way around as i see it from the statements of politicians.
it seens to me that UKs population took this vote vrey easy going and not really knowing what theyre doing and now the next morning a lot of people woke up thinking “i got cheated on my vote”
Exactly what part of a majority decision referendum to you not quite understand mate?
We neither want nor expect those muppets in Brussels to begin offering any kind of carrot for us to chew on, lol.
We voted exit, the result is clear & unambiguous & we’re not in the slightest bit interested in any further negotiations with the EU other than when can we extricate ourselves from their ridiculously overly bureaucratic nightmare.
For the sake of balance so as not to further destabilise the playing field, UK have offered to put forth a smooth transition, but if those muppets don’t want that then so be it.
It simply shows other countries with similar aims what they’re really like & will further galvanise their objective to exit that circus too.
If those muppets hadn’t tried to shaft Cameron so often with their laughable insults you wouldn’t be in this situation at all. Do you seriously imagine the UK population were simply going to sit back & watch everything we’ve worked for be eroded by a bunch of half wits?
We’re British mate, we’re made of far sterner stuff.
you might find the picture i posted interesting
The quote from Churchill is very timely, Turbo,
A few years ago there was talk of a public referendum (by collection of public signatures)
to … wait for it…
REINTRODUCE THE DEATH PENALTY in the United Kingdom…
On reaching the 100000 signatures, the public could lobby Parliament, who would have to
debate it…
The issue then would have been: do the people really have the best judgement?
No, nor does Parliament, some times, as in the case of going to war in Afghanistan,
as the Chilcot Inquiry cleary made obvious.
Unfortunately, scapegoating Romanians, or Jews, or the EU are just manifestations
of a deep dissatisfaction that a country has with ITS OWN ECONOMIC AND POLITICAL SITUATION…
So Britain will have its democratically voted-for bright new future… Nobody knows that it will be
worse than the present time, but that is not the point… The point, like Turbo says, is that it
was just that, a protest vote against ‘the establishment’, but indeed I would much rather see
a referendum to abolish the House of Lords (or make it elected, at least), or to abolish the
monarchy, which would actually be much more immediately about ‘the people’ regaining sovereignty
over their own affairs…
So we chase a wild conspiracy theory of unelected foreign power but do not first look closely
at the state of democracy in this country?
The UK ELECTS MEPs with due democracy, where NOBODY ELECTS the Lords…
The UK has the highest number of CCTV cameras and privacy intrusion than any other developed country, potentially…
The UK has a tax system that allows corporation to domicile here for tax avoidance…
So before we called other countries in the world antidemocratic we should look at our own laundry basket
and do a thorough wash…
There you go.
Happy trading.
Peace.
So interesting, you chose to post this comment twice!
The only interesting & gratifying thing about late June 2016 is the fact we’ve finally, at long last decided not to renew our subscriptions to the over-rated EU club!
The debating’s done & dusted
It’s all over bar the shouting
Finito!
great post PMH!! really shows how some things simply aint right at the moment.
bit speed bump said it perfectly right with his infantile choise of words and his uneducated thinking which is a perfect indicator for the masses that made the vote.
we voted out. were out. and were happy about it"
and i am happy that the EU sees it exactly the same. uk voted out theyre out and thats the attitude of the EU states. showibg it that already from next tuesday decitions within the eu (also decitions which concern UK directly) are beeing done without UK.
if it was a protest vote or not plays no role anymore. and as i see it right now, uk gained absolutely nothing. as the main reason was to stop immigrants their tactic is wrong. as uk tries to take the same model norway is using to have access to the eu economic markets. but… norway is part of the free movement agreenment just like any other eu member. that is the main demand of eu to have acces to the european markets and UK will have to accept it. so now what uk gained is the following:
immigrants stay
access to eur markets get tightened
uk has no more influence in eu
financial markets of london loose ibfluence and their access to europe
uk loosing jobs
more imigrants will come due to the norway-eu role model which uk is tryibg to copy.
internal problems with scotland
loss of geo political ibfouence as now uk speaks only for themselves and not for 550million people
so… what exactly did UK gain with this again? 350millions they send weekly to brussel? but lost a market they traded billions with every week?
am i missing somethibg or the average UK voter knows more then i just posted only a few of bad sites of what is at stake? speed bump enlight me. let me guessyour answare will be “uugghhh gooo brittain we rool!!!”"??
Nice post, Turbo…Sadly we will be leaving an uncertain economic present to an even more uncertain economic future, so it is not a step to be taken lightly… Once the street parties are over,a lot of truths may begin to emerge about what it means to go it alone…
it already started not even 24 hours after the vote.
less immigrants - taken back
no economically bad consequences - taken back
money send to eu going to be put into health care - taken back
the list goes on but i think those were the main bullet points of the brexit leaders promises and they already took them back. truth comes after the celebration.
It is so interesting to read here all the different opinions and views on this event. As a British ex-pat living in Europe, I just thought to share here some comments which, rightly or wrongly, are starting to feed into the news in my part of Europe.
Firstly, it is reported that there is a growing volume of Brexit voters on social media saying how they now totally regret their vote, which was basically only intended as an expression of discontent and never dreamt that it would actually end up with a leave majority.
Secondly, that it highlights a clash in generations where the young are furious that the older generation has stolen their future as part of Europe with comments such as “We have lost our right to live and work in 27 countries”.
I don’t know where these statistics have come from but it is claimed that whereas 73% of 18-24 year-olds and 62% of 25-34 year-olds supported remaining in the EU, over 60% of those over 65 years old voted to leave.
It is also commented that whilst those older people who voted the UK out of the EU will not even be essentially around anymore once the long process of leaving has finally completed, the younger generation were actually born as EU nationals. They possess an instinctive thought process that extends beyond national borders and naturally incorporates consideration of their neighbouring countries in forming their opinions.
The general opinion that I read about here is that Britain does has genuine issues that have not been given the consideration they deserve but that leaving the EU was not the right answer. Or perhaps it could even be said that it was both the right answer for the wrong reasons and the wrong answer for the right reasons.
Europe is perhaps the most multi-culturally interesting area of our globe with a fascinating history and a wealth of value and opportunity in every walk of life. The UK is a big part of that Europe and will continue to be so whether it is in or out of the EU. Whatever the future that now evolves in Europe I only hope that we all remain friendly and undivided, otherwise maybe the only clinking of champagne glasses that has any real meaning is that echoing around the Kremlin.
I find statements like these so wrong in context. The U.K. is European without the EU. It’s such propaganda to say such things.
Manxx, just taken this off yhe BBC website
Also, 1.5m have so far signed an online petition demanding another referendum. One reason given by many is that they voted Leave as a protest but didn’t expect them to win
When I read this post I swear I thought I was reading a post written by Joseph Stalin. I don’t get this fascination with socialism Europeans have. How making the government (EU) your daddy is essential to growth. But if Greece, Portugal, Spain, and Ireland aren’t enough to make you want to eradicate this type of failed political system then Europe is really in trouble. Germany just needs to leave and it’s all over for these 26 countries that are suckling pigs on that teet. Unelected officials making policies and regulations for you is not a democracy. It’s communism wrapped in a new tin foil hat called the EU!
Yeah this sounds fishy to me. So people who voted for leave now want another referendum, does this sound remotely truthful to you? Depeche Mode wrote a great song in the 80’s called New Dress. It’s about the media manipulating news stories to manipulate the masses. A fitting song for a fitting manipulation.
first of all. thank you very much for this huge compliment. im really flattered beeing compared to stalin.
i didnt mention any socialism. dont know where you found that. you must be reading things that dont exist in my text. its not about socialism its about a family. in my eyes a person from UK is just as much a european as i am and in my eyes YOU are just as much a fellow european and i see YOU as part of my COUNTRY, THE EU. if you did not understand what im saying= europe os one. i see myself as european FIRST and only after that as croatian or german or english.
