What you call nitpicking, I call setting the record straight. Being accused of being condescending when I argue with reason and logic is pure rubbish. It is obvious to me that there are more âcry babiesâ than there are traders. I am not going to waste any more time on this.
No one is denying that you argue with reason and logic xtraction, your posts prove that very well - itâs just the tone and attitude that they have an issue with, just as they do with the phoenixâs. This was just a discussion on the dreary side of things, youâve presented some very helpful material-
edit: might have misinterpreted that as an ultimatum nevermind
You infer âtone and attitudeâ from my posts and that in itself tells more about you than me. I make my case and state my claims succinctly. The problem lies with the reader not with me. If I tell you the world is flat, youâll laugh and call my crazy but centuries ago that was the prevailing truth. âTrendâ, âsupportâ, âresistanceâ, âmultiple time framesâ are the prevailing truth now and I am saying âthe world is roundâ when I tell you they are âmythsâ and âillusionsâ. The problem is some people hold these concepts with the esteem of religion. My refuting those concepts is akin to going to a church on Sunday and shouting out âGod doesnât exist, itâs a myth and illusion.â Centuries ago, I would have been stoned to death. Today, I get verbally âstonedâ for debunking their âgodâ.
Has anyone proved me wrong with reason, facts or logic? NO! Instead, they have dismissed me as âsomeone who has obviously never traded or done any serious study of tradingâ. That is not proof that my statements are incorrect. You have to understand the difference between the conceptual and reality and once you do, youâll realize my claims are accurate.
The difference between ThePhoenix and me is night and orange. Not even in the same universe. My posts were on topic and focused on the topic. I did not start out making personal attacks or calling people derogatory names just because I could not win the debate with proof, logic and reason.
I havenât posted for over a week. I posted some last night. I received an infraction for âcross postingâ because I posted a âStop by THE FOREX STOREâ message in more than one thread. I thought it was better to invite traders to visit my thread rather than debate in their threads. But the forum admins saw it differently. Something doesnât âfeel rightâ about receiving an infraction for this.
An infraction for that on ANY forum isnât uncommon. Itâs usually referred to as spamming.
You offer some valuable insight, and a simple, and effective system, but not everyone is going to subscribe to your train of thought. Nor do they want to debate it, in their thread OR yours.
Itâs a live and let live world. Until people figure out they what they are doing doesnât work, they arenât open to a lot of suggestions.
The old adage âyou can lead a horse to water, but you canât make it drinkâ was never in more valid.
Take a little stress off, add a thought when you can, and relax a tad. Crack a joke or two instead of coming off like Kevin Spaceyâs character in the movie âSevenâ, and you might actually have some fun.
Youâll be surprised at how willing people start to listen, when they donât feel like they need to âdebateâ. Even if it IS with logic.
I guess my sense of humor is an acquired taste. I find it fun and funny shooting down âmythsâ and âillusionsâ. Arenât forums the place to debate?
[I][B]FORUM: a public meeting or assembly for open discussion [/B][/I]
Doesnât open discussion imply OPEN and DISCUSSION? If one doesnât possess the mental acumen to participate in a civil debate they do not have to resort to uncivilized behavior like name calling.
This is a trading forum and the only thing that matters is profit/loss. As traders, our mission is to maximize profit and minimize loss. That is where the focus should be placed. If one puts forth a system in a forum, they should be able to prove how it makes a profit especially if the rules are complex and not readily observable.
To me, profit/loss of real money really isnât anything to joke about.
Why canât people debate in a civilized manner? Why must people resort to name calling, personal attacks and insults?
My guess is because theyâre under 15, people arenât as civil as weâd think in the first place, and/or youâve done something theyâve seen as offensive
The problem is some people hold these concepts with the esteem of religion. My refuting those concepts is akin to going to a church on Sunday and shouting out âGod doesnât exist, itâs a myth and illusion.â
Thatâs what I mean by the tone and attitude business - if in that age you were to politely invite people to an open conference or debate titled âGod doesnât exist, it is a myth and an illusionââŚ(youâd probably be relentlessly hunted down and burnt at the stake instead) but in a more modern day society youâd be welcomed as a skeptic and a challenge to the more outspoken believers in good will. Even today, if you were to run into a church proclaiming that sort of thing, interrupting a ceremony/sermon - when I was a kid someone actually did - youâd still be physically haulled out/removed without a second thought.
On that note thereâs plenty of christians (from my experience) who have doubted that god actually exists but from a broader metaphysical standpoint the empirical âtruthâ is just another perspective. More to the point Iâm sure there are certain spiritual/mental benefits they are experiencing from believing in god as opposed to believing in many or not believing in one at all; the primary reason theyâd react so violently is because god is already âworkingâ for them*. In comparison, wading through the vast multitude of trading techniques and systems out there, someone might already have found something that is âworkingâ for them. S/R is something that has been âworkingâ for many people - itâs the globally spreading christianity so to speak. The 95% rule says alot about that but in my opinion itâs just incorrectly applied, and the beauty of it is that like religion this is a concept thatâs fairly unfalsifiable.
*To digress the hostile reaction would also stem from the fact that theyâre probably subconsiously insecure about their own faith and belief in the first place and any form of interruption that causes this to waver results in a mixture of both inward conflict and outward response. Itâs a little bit like one reason why relatively unrestrained behaviour/characteristics such as arrogance can be so disliked; the people that find it irritating are the ones that have the potential (everyone) to be that overbearing but have gone to great lengths to suppress their ego in the first place - the whole exterior questioning->provokation and resultant interior insecurity->hostile reaction on a time investment.
I beilieve you trade in a very unusual method or style.
I did saw some of the posts and discussion and etc.
I personally do not really understand what you posted.
I believe it is very vague and is not easily explain in wording.
Therefore, your messages does not really get across or convinced
people. This is just how i felt.
How do you define unusual? Trading when price crosses a threshold is considered a common practice in most markets. Thatâs what I do at the weekly open and previous weekâs high/low. What donât you understand about that?
There sure is a lot of hostility amongst traders. If you post a system and I find a âflawâ, shouldnât you be happy because I may have saved you from losing? At least you have a reference point and you can recheck your calculations and see if something isnât what you thought it was.
If someone finds a flaw in my trading, I would treat it as an opportunity to learn.
Could this be one of the reasons why forum admins do not want links to other sites posted:
[B]âThe best way to ensure Google finds your site is for your
page to be linked from lots of pages on other sites.
Googleâs robots jump from page to page on the Web via
hyperlinks, so the more sites that link to you, the more
likely it is that weâll find you quickly.â[/B]
[B]Q[/B]. What was the original purpose of the internet?
[B]A[/B]. The internet was invented for exchanging raw data between researchers
Invented for â[B]EXCHANGING[/B]â not â[B]INHIBITING[/B]â.
