GB politics discussion thread

@Falstaff There is a name I have not heard in a while… Dominic Frisby…

He’s an old trader from years ago…

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In UK the National Police Chiefs’ Council have today updated the arrest numbers relating the recent riots in that country.

That number stands at 1024 - of that number 575 have been charged.

These numbers incl arrests by PSNI relating to disorder in Belfast

As at Aug 9th the total arrested stood at 741 with 32 of those relating to online incitement - representing 4.4% of those arrested.

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@peterma Of course you can supply links to these figures you have quoted…

There is a school teacher in Ireland called Enoch Burke & he’s in prison 4 months now because he refused to call a male pupil “she”. The judge said he’ll stay in gaol until he changes his stance…

This is fact…

I’d believe Konstantin Kisin’s information over many other commentators in the UK at the moment… The propaganda units for the UK Government… Also known as the BBC and Channel 4 have been caught fudging facts a great many times…

There was a report in the Times a few years back which is where Kisin’s data came from…

“Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.” - George Orwell

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Actually it’s not fact - Burke was released from jail in June past - it’s summer hols for the school so he doesn’t want to picket an empty school.
Likely he will head back when the hols are over - you never know when it comes to religion. :slight_smile:

Yeah not only these guys but also ‘news’ channels on a well known site whose owner espouses free speech.
There was a heinous attack in Southport, England on innocent children - it was reported on line that the perpetrator was a recent asylum seeker who came over on a boat the previous week. No one in the UK could legitimately correct this lie since the the evil doer was under 18 - only a court could do so.

By the time that a court did exactly that the riots had spread - fed by the online ‘information’.

Btw if you do a FOI you will get the info on arrests etc - also the UK police publish same info - easy to find.

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So Enoch Burke hasn’t spent 400 days in an Irish Jail as a result of his opposition to the extension of transgender rights, following a direction by the school to call a former student by a different pronoun…

Having to call somebody “they”, has no basis in Irish law…

Burke argued that in his judgement Mr Justice Owens completely disregarded his constitutional rights of freedom of conscience and the free profession and practice of religion when he refused to comply with the school’s direction to call a then student by a different name and use the pronoun “they”…

@peterma What was I thinking…. Asking you to provide links to your opinions and assertions… !

Only fools would believe that these riots have been sparked by the Southport incident and some of the misinformation reported on many social media channels… It was the straw that has broken the camel’s back…

The UK Public are sick and tired of becoming second class citizens in their own land… The grooming gangs… The knife crime… The home invasions and carjacking… The welfare drain…The housing crisis… The Rioting from both sides of the religious divide has become part of everyday life across the UK… The indigenous residents have had enough of illegal mass immigration…

To the point that the rest of the Commonwealth Canada, Australia and New Zealand are issuing travel warnings for anyone planning travel into the UK…

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Civil servants left squirming by MP’s migrant question: ‘You MUST know!’

@Falstaff If this doesn’t convince the public why the UK is in such a complete mess… Then nothing will… It’s astounding the amount of complete incompetence we have in our current Global leaders and self indulgent officials in the administrations around them…

So basically they have no clue who they have let into the country… Why should they care… They get into their Audi’s and Mercedes and drive out to their country estates comfortably protected behind wrought iron gates…

Same shite in the United States… Canada and here in Australia…

No answers to important questions… No consequences for not answering…

Strange how during COVID they were filled with numbers and facts and stats but now they’re absolutely clueless… Disgusting… Its society today… Big rewards for failure…

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Yep - Mr Burke broke no law by thus refusing the ‘they’ term - I’d say he was 100% right to refuse such a stupid demand (a demand that is illegal in UK).

He didn’t get jailed for ‘they/it’ - he got jailed because he refused to obey a court order not to attend the school which had sacked him. It was the school that took him to court - a church of Ireland school. When he continued to attend the school sought to have him jailed for breach of the court order granted to them…

Stupidity at it’s height - grown men & women (perhaps shld say grown theys) behaving as idiots.

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It just isn’t “fact” at all.

Firstly, he’s not in prison now anyway.

Secondly that wasn’t the reason he was sent down in the first place.

Apart from all that, well done! :grimacing: :sweat_smile:

My problem with your posts isn’t with your opinions (with which I often agree, not that you’ll care about that either way, and rightly): it’s that the “facts” you try to back them up with are so often just downright wrong, while at the same time you don’t hesitate to challenge others with whom you disagree for links to verify their facts (which typically they immediately provide!).

If even those of us who are instinctively and intrinsically “on your side” are embarrassed by this, you can imagine what your “opponents” think, and how much damage you’re doing to your “cause” by the way you discuss it …

Or maybe not? Maybe you just don’t think about that at all?!

Either way, it’s not good. :roll_eyes:

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Look out folks… The forums latest self appointed expert on everything has spoken…

“Opponent’s” Wow… Hetero…You’ve been in more threads in 6 weeks than I have in 6 years… And your fifth Babypips Profile in as many months… Of which three were benched and another fell on her own sword…

Yes I got the details wrong in that post… Yes… His jail time was for picketing the school that sacked him for refusing to acknowledge a transitioning transgender student… Yes, he was released in June as PeterMA posted… When I f*ck up… I’ll man up and admit it…

This should be fun from here on in…

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Noted - thanks.

Not quite, but admittedly my third in a decade - the other two aren’t still active - actually one was probably quite a bit more than a decade - I was told that’s ok.

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@Trendswithbenefits ref - how our countries got to this state. I’m watching a fascinating discussion between Joe Rogan and Jordan Peterson atm - It’s long so I will link it at “current time” - just watch the next few minutes unitl he explains the book “Ordinary men - Robert Browning” - I don’t know what comes after that - but I’m watching the whole thing as I am fascinated with the upcoming “Re-education of Jordan Peterson” - which I will link to second - in case you’re interested.

'https://youtu.be/04wyGK6k6HE?list=TLPQMTUwODIwMjS7hPY35YebgA&t=3105

'https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDOYglqeTck
atb F

PS Bear in mind that the first is 7 years old - so we have moved on from there and in particular I’m thinking of “Two tier Keir Sta…” and his “standing army of police” (ALL Police in the uk Now have to have “Degrees” and undergo extensive “training” at the “College of Police”.

“standing army of police” - (Freudian slip) - also relates perhaps to his two tier policing of a certain “minority” - by allowing them to “Self Police” by negotiation with their “Community leaders”.

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So your own government suppresses its own people, something they’ve done worldwide with other countries they control?

The chicken has returned home to roost?

This is a normal behavior based on history.

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@Falstaff The relatively peaceful and prosperous western way of life is currently under siege… Just most people are too busy… Too simple and too apathetic to realise what is happening around them…

It’s the apologue of the boiling frog that is happening to citizens across the globe…

Throughout the Commonwealth and many other nations there was always supposed to be a separation of powers decree…

The ‘separation of powers’ is the principle that the power to make and manage laws should be shared between different groups—the Parliament, the Executive and the Judiciary—to avoid one group having all the power.

Unfortunately, This is no longer the case in many democracy’s across the western world as Governments have stacked their decks to ensure increased control of their populations…

It’s obvious across social media and forums like this one… Where vociferous minorities currently have the edge over the inaudible majorities…

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Border boss catches out Diane Abbott spreading ‘bizarre’ misinformation

Jesus… I thought we had some morons in Australia’s Parliamentary Committee’s…

She is dangerous!! A well paid politician, with no idea… No wonder the UK is in such a mess…

Shouldn’t she be reported to the police… Shouldn’t she be arrested for dangerous misinformation…

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@Trendswithbenefits

You don’t understand, she’s the court jester :rofl:

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Bad men need nothing more to compass their ends, than that good men should look on and do nothing. (likely John Stuart Mill mid 1800’s)

This is thought provoking - can we let the minority do their thing because the majority are silent - is this how communism became a power.

Somehow we must always let the majority have a voice - not easy since they are often silent.

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Everyone has become a victim of the system and everyone wants their old way of life back. That’s universal. Our happiness and misery were not created out of nowhere but by our own actions

You think so mate ? - I’m hugely encouraged by the response of the young “White males” ! insofar as they’re NOT rioting and are simply going “Red Pill” - Even those who are supposedly “thinkers” do not understand - but Universities are 60% women, 40% men students now ! - and “their” response is becoming very visible too !

Here’s Dominic Frisby’s take ; (only 5 minutes)

'https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5GHkljX-So

And if you read Ayn Rand “Atlas Shrugged” - you’ll exactly understand what these people are worried about - Even though they don’t know it any more than “the Hierarchy” in Rand’s book did ! - Thier thinking when their world was falling apart is just exactly what you’re seeing now !

'https://youtu.be/KXqoNaF7DnM?list=TLPQMTcwODIwMjTDZm5kXMVxZg&t=2151

“Who is John Galt?”

PS - If anyone has a few quid to spare - that would make a great fillum just now - when the woke films are going bust !

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Oh we had a voice mate - 2016 we voted Brexit - Every election since 2010 we voted to reduce immigration - we had a voice ok - but were frustrated and ignored, ridiculed and punished for being stupid - by those who consider themselves our “betters” :roll_eyes:

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