GB politics discussion thread

I suppose reflects on current state of GB politics that Cummings, Frost or Farage could even be thought of as possible PM material given that 2 of them have never stood for election and the 3rd despite being anti EU only ever won in an EU election.

Anyways - there is a PM in waiting (pre next election) - he wears a grey suit but more importantly he is the opposite of the current PM - he is big time smart.

(and he’s not the current leader of the house)

"Theresa May PLOTS Against Boris' Leadership 😮 - YouTube

" 🚨 Cummings Backs Team Rishi Sunak For Prime Minister 🚨 - YouTube

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I don’t want to go to the polling station at my next elections where I live bearing my passport or some other photographic ID.

For decades it has been enough for me to turn up in person, identify myself by name and address, and vote.

Now I am being told by a bunch of free-loading self-aggrandising chancers (i.e. your typical British politicians) that it will somehow protect my democracy if I bring a government-approved photo of myself as well. For any of which I am liable to pay an administrative fee. To them.

This is a much more important disincentive for me to bother voting than the constant rain we experience down here.

Was it a party? Or was it a meeting at which drinks were served and not much work was done?

The covid restrictions in place at the time of the famous Downing Street party said that you could not socialise indoors with anyone you did not live with or who was not in your support bubble but you could gather indoors with people from outside thee two classes if it was reasonably necessary for the purposes of your employment.

It has been maintained all along that the staffing of No.10 was an essential requirement for the management of the country, and the staff there were effectively in close contact all day every day. No doubt as good public servants the staff shared tea, coffee and biscuits.

It appears that on one night after work had been completed, the staff shared alcohol, cheese and biscuits.

So where was the contravention of the rules? Where was the public health risk?

There wasn’t any. But Boris Johnson is too inept to even understand the rules and answer simple questions on them. How long Boris, how long?

Ed Davey self-isolating.
And there’s me thinking he’d already done that by joining the LibDems.

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My missus is very pissed off as she is not double jabbed and now cannot go to see Ed SHeeran.

I’d count that as a lucky escape.

If I had to choose I’d rather listen to Ed Davey.

hahahahahahha true

Link;

What is the real reason that the British government will not tackle immigration? - YouTube

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I watched this. Everybody should watch this.

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Don’t want a vaccination? - Then don’t get one - but either way, leave me alone.

The right thing for strident anti-vaxxers to do is to seek to influence public, government and medical opinion with reasoned argument and debate.

The wrong thing to do is take direct action against the vaccination process, such as -

  • intimidating children at vaccination centres and schools (Hertfordshire; Guildford, Surrey)
  • gluing the locks on a vaccination centre’s entrance doors (Gorleston, Norfolk)
  • graffitiing and vandalising the vaccination centre (Truro, Cornwall)
  • posing as fake vaccination centre marshals (Holborn, London)
  • obstructing access to vaccination centres (Chichester, Sussex)
  • abusing and chasing patients at vaccination centres (Ayr, Scotland)
  • embedding razor blades in anti-vax posters (St Albans, Harpenden, Hertfordshire)
  • creating bomb hoaxes at vaccination centres (Cornwall)
  • obstructing motorway traffic (Bathgate, Scotland)

Such activities are not legitimate protests but a form of terrorism. They are the complete opposite of democracy and personal liberty.

Any incumbent government in mid-term can expect to lose more by-elections than it wins. But this government has just steered us through the worst public health crisis in modern history. Some questionable tactics, but overall enjoying massive public co-operation.

They should have done better.

I love seeing the Scottish nationalists tying themselves up in knots.

Nicola Sturgeon is in the position where she is saying that Scotland cannot beat covid in Scotland without UK financial help.

If she gets it and beats covid in Scotland with UK support, she will find it very difficult to convince Scottish voters that Scotland would be better off independent.

If she doesn’t get it, having said that Scotland herself cannot afford the business support measures she says are necessary, that’s a strange argument for cutting the country off from the UK.

Delicious ironies all round.

Great News for freedom !

"Was the North Shropshire by-election a referendum on the government's handling of the Covid crisis? - YouTube

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Christmas greetings from Sinn Fein to imprisoned members of ETA.

How cheery.

NB.
ETA no longer exists, having dissolved itself and surrendered its arms and explosives. Not before it killed 829 people.
I would like to wish all the best to their surviving victims, their relatives and those of the dead.

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I have previously posted re an unelected uk govt minister sits in cabinet and makes decisions for our future.

Week past Tory MP Joy Morrisey is in agreement - she tweeted " Perhaps the unelected covid public health spokesperson should defer to what our ELECTED Members of Parliament and the Prime Minister have decided

She went on to post :“I know it’s difficult to remember but that’s how democracy works. This is not a public health socialist state.”

For some reason she deleted the tweet and re-tweeted on the need for decision making to be restricted to elected people in a healthy democracy. - to which I totally agree.

Rumours tonight that unelected Lord Frost, UK Brexit Minister, is packing it in - one bright spark commented that maybe he’s going back to Scots Whiskey Assoc where he said that brexit was a bad idea :slight_smile:

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NI politics and GB politics are connected so perhaps a SF video re political prisoners in Spain has a relevance to this thread, then maybe not - mention made of 40 years ago.

Likewise the decision in the UK Supreme Court this past week on actions by British Army in NI over 40 years back could have a similar relevance - many of those victims of torture are still alive and with the support of their relatives still seek justice.

The killing and torture of people by any group, state or organisation is reprehensible - these things are in the past which cannot be changed - it’s our present and future that we can change - if we so wish :slight_smile:

Treatment of hooded men was ‘clear use of torture’, Taoiseach says (irishtimes.com)

Edit: in the above article there is mention of the Miami Showband Massacre - likewise over 40 years back - that also came to an UK court this past week - survivors took a case against the UK Ministry of Defence - they accepted £1.5m in compensation.

They were a brilliant band.

£1.5m payout for Miami Showband massacre families and survivors… musicians were murdered by UDR soldiers and UVF - BelfastTelegraph.co.uk

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So now Frost and Cumings have gone and with them most of teh prospects for a decent Britain ! - disposed of by that great unelected dominatrix Princess Nut-Nut!

[ Incidentally - I see NOTHING “Healthy” about what purports to pass for what you call “Democracy” in the West ! ]

Green title is link !

"🚨 BREAKING: Lord Frost Resigns From Boris Government 🚨 LIVESTREAM - YouTube

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Perhaps Lord Frost’s resignation confirms two things.

Firstly that talented able people with Conservative blood in their veins can not advance under Johnson.

Second, we’re headed into lockdown.