Global warming caused by sun getting closer to earth

[sprotz]

@Falstaff

That is the current paradym - it is wrong ;
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'https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXJ7UZjFDHU

You see how crazy that man looks in the picture. That explains everything

[Falstaff]

@sprotz

see how crazy that man looks in the picture. That explains everything

Sadly there was a time when I thought you were a thinker. Clearly I was wrong. Instead of criticising the photograph of Dr Happer perhaps you should be trying to understand the chart and the detailed and incontrovertable evidence he cites.

This is not even in dispute IPCC know the figures and do not dispute them.

But no - it’s real science - all too hard for a lightweight mind.

Part of his lecture - probably the most important single graph anywhere in the whole “CO2 = Global warming” fantasy :

[SmallPaul]

COVID-19 vaccine is likewise real science, did we agree with it?

I suppose we select and determine when science is genuine or not.

[SchmaltzHerring]

@SmallPaul

I suppose we select and determine when science is genuine or not

[Falstaff]

The Unified theory of Scare Stories

You can also add “Covid” to this list

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'https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2H0OxmF7fak&list=TLPQMDUwMTIwMjVGm-5kEZyLAA&index=4

[peterma]

@Falstaff

(Link is green writing - if you want to go there)

Why go there - we spoke before re Patrick Moore - everybody has an agenda, I enjoy reading/listening to guys who have none.

[Paul_J7]

Plant aims to reduce atmospheric CO₂ levels, addressing climate change concerns

World’s largest carbon dioxide sucking factory opens in Iceland - BBC News

[Paul_J7]

Look, the idea that the Earth is getting closer to the Sun and that’s why we’re experiencing global warming doesn’t hold up. Here are a few facts:

1. The Earth’s orbit doesn’t change that quickly. These changes take millions of years and can’t explain the sharp warming over the last 150 years.
2. The Sun is actually moving further away. As the Sun loses mass, its gravitational pull weakens slightly, and Earth’s orbit slowly increases (we’re talking centimeters per year).
3. Solar activity is a minor factor. Solar cycles (11 years) have a minimal effect on the climate — at most +0.1°C, while current warming is already over 1°C.
4. CO₂ is the main culprit. Warming directly coincides with the industrial revolution and the sharp increase in greenhouse gas emissions.

So, the Sun isn’t the cause here. Scientists almost unanimously agree that modern warming is caused by human activity, especially CO₂ emissions

[Paul_J7]

You can’t trust the Russians)

[SmallPaul]

Climate change aside, what individual is okay with the air we inhale contaminated with pollutants?

[peterma]

Drove today thru the beautiful Mourne Mountains - snow, ice, clear air - then in front of us the valley where we live - could see the layer of smoke.
When we got down there it was no longer visible - likely only our lungs are aware.

[Falstaff]

@Paul_J7

You can’t trust the Russians)

She’s from Ukraine !

Interesting that you asked specifically for scientific evidence that the sun is moving towards the Earth - Then when I provided it in absolutely certain terms - you did not watch it but started talking about the "Earth’s orbit changing " - which is irrelevant to the current movements of the Sun towards the Earth .- which will continue uintil about 2700, when it will start to retreat again and our climate will stop getting warmer.

That deals with your items 1 & 2.

Item 3 Solar activity - you are indoctrinated with opinions from the 1970s - learn what Zharkova has to say about “Principle component Analysis” and why we had Maunder minimum (Little Ice Age), Woolf minimum and Oort minimum - when the thames froze over in winter and we had food shortages and crop failures.

item 4- CO2 = Global warming.

@Paul_J7

Warming directly coincides with the industrial revolution and the sharp increase in greenhouse gas emissions.

Correlation does NOT equal causation ! The starting date chosen by those whose indoctrination you choose to accept is chosen to be the exit from teh “Little Ice Age” - as I said when they held fairs on the frozen Thames in winter due to it being the “Dalton Minimum” .

CO2 effects are easy to calculate - without CO2 the earth would emit 307 W/m2 to space. with all the greenhouse gases in place and CO2 at 400 ppm (0.04%) we emit 277 W/m2 and if you DOUBLE CO2 to 800 ppm we emit 274 W/m2 - ie a change of 3W/m2 for a doubling of CO2 - which increase the temperature of the Earth by 0.71 degrees C - no questions - no arguments - that is the answer !

INterestingly even Svente Arhennus (the guy who came up with the CO2 = Global Warming hypothesis way back in 18th century) was aware that the effects of CO2 were not linear but Logrythmic - although how he actually came to that (Correct) conclusion is a mystery to this day !

[Falstaff]

@Falstaff

The starting date chosen by those whose indoctrination you choose to accept is chosen to be the exit from teh “Little Ice Age” - as I said when they held fairs on the frozen Thames in winter due to it being the “Maunder Minimum” .

@Paul_J7 Just out of curiosity - are you saying that we should aim to go back to those temperatures when the Thames froze over every winter - since that is the “Ideal” temperatures you think we have moved away from - do you suggest we go back there ?

[ausguyforex]

The scientific community is wrong I’m right . There was more carbon do during the dinosaur and they thrived .

I have history on my side

The education system currently popping out these so called scientists is from political agenda

I’m right

[Falstaff]

@ausguyforex

There was more carbon do during the dinosaur and they thrived .

Here’s a chart of CO2 during the last 600 million years - ranging from 20x what it is now down down down down to present levels - note a drastic drop durin Carboniferous age due to the fact that no organism had yet evolved which could decompose lignin !

In answer top your comment - it can be seen that during the Jurassic (dinosaurs) CO2 was circa 2000 ppm (current value 400 )

At the end of the last Glaciation CO2 was down to 180 ppm and as the Climate warmed - the CO2 was increased because teh oceans warmed and released CO2 into the atmosphere (CO2 ALWAYS FOLLOWS Temperature by around 800 years)

At the end of the last Glaciation CO2 was down to 180 ppm Plants all die if CO2 gets down to 150 ppm.

[Paul_J7]

Let’s be honest — if the best counter-argument to global warming is “we had more CO₂ during the dinosaurs and they thrived,” we’re not really in a serious conversation. The point isn’t whether life existed with more CO₂ in the past — the point is how human civilization functions now in a stable climate, with coastlines, crops, water systems, and economies built for current conditions.
And sure, correlation doesn’t equal causation — but when the correlation is strong, consistent, and backed by every major climate model and independent dataset, it’s not just a coincidence. It’s evidence.
We can debate theories all day, but physics doesn’t care what anyone believes.

[Jackie.Wilson]

@ausguyforex

The scientific community is wrong I’m right

This page is all you need!

[Paul_J7]

You are right

[ausguyforex]

So you don’t believe in supernovas then ? The sun is getting closer it’s a solar fact

[Paul_J7]

Supernovas are real, sure — but they have zero relevance to Earth’s climate. Solar activity does affect climate in the long term, but the current rapid warming trend isn’t caused by the Sun. This has been thoroughly studied, measured, and ruled out using real solar data.

Satellites have tracked solar radiation since the 1970s, and the trend has remained flat. At the same time, global temperatures have risen dramatically. So no — that’s not a “solar fact.” What we’re seeing now is clearly human-driven.