Going offshore to escape the CFTC

@HyperScalper – I was trying to find the post that you published regarding coinexx execution times between MT4 and MT5, but I cannot seem to find it. I am currently using MT4, but am considering making the move to MT5. I do manual trading, so do you think that the latency would be mostly negligible?

Thanks.

Yes. I think it would be negligible. In my case, I used populations of individual
MT5 terminals, and I decided that their memory footprint was far greater and less
predictable than MT4 within the context of NJ4X dot com executions. It was
saturating 16gb of memory on my server when we got up toward 30 instances,
and found certain workarounds to limit memory usage, but decided finally
to drop back to MT4 until forced to deal again with MT5…

This is for mainstream Forex only; no others… So one instance of MT5 on
most systems would use extra memory; but would not be noticeable on a
modern system…

[EDIT] as for execution times also you would not notice any differences
for most manual trading; and, of course, if you use Pending/Limit style
orders then (in theory) those are already on the server (not sure about
that) so “reaction time” is not a factor…

hyperscalper

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I took a quick look at CME Group, a.k.a. CMEG, Capital Markets Elite Group, and cmelitegroup.com mentioned by Gregory (screen-name OnTheEdge) above.

This broker is domiciled in Trinidad and Tobago, and claims some sort of partnership with ETX Capital (FCA-regulated broker in the UK).

Regarding the Indemnity Agreement which Gregory referred to: Here’s a screen-shot.
Click the image to enlarge it.



Personally, I have no problem with such a Disclaimer. In fact, I like it. I think all offshore brokers should operate this way. You may recall a POST I wrote a long time ago suggesting something similar.

Anyway, thanks to Gregory for pointing us toward this prospect.

I’ll ask the rest of you to dive in and vet this broker further.

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Thanks. I appreciate it.

I’m noticing a lot of mixed info on hugos way. Are the trades indeed fundamentally at a 22% cut just from padded spreads alone? Are they that likely to be trustworthy?

I thought they could be a decent alternative to coinexx just because maybe there is some added indemification on my end for having openly stated kyc/aml. plus some really nice alt pairs with high leverage could potentially be an edge over other exchanges. But I mean those 8 dollar spreads on bitcoin could be a deal killer.

Yes, the spreads for cryptocurrency are 11% each way (minimum), assuming you are using max leverage. I asked if similar adjustments are being made for FX pairs, but did not receive an answer to that question.

Yes they are the 2 main brokers I have used but I have to say I am thinking about a switch, maybe to IC Markets? They are fully regulated aren’t they?
I just want to get on with trading without worrying about the broker side really, if you know what I mean.

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Yes, I know what you mean; I have my hands full just working on
Trading itself… And with the various funds transfer mechanisms
across brokers; it’s also best for me to go with 1 or 2 MT4 brokers
as a practical matter…

hyperscalper

Well, what an arrogant reply it is, I asked hugosway about their IB program, they asked for my number and I said email communication will be fine and this is what they replied

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i no longer consider doing business with hugoways after finding out doing a wire transfer my money would be going to a company in florida thru bank of america and then last week it was a diffrent compnay in florida but the same bank of america, now at the moment you can’t do wire transfer because they updating there banking.

I’m the same way, nobody wants to worry about that. I just want to focus on my trading without thinking my broker is going to get shut down out of nowhere

some info on HYCM

Exactly. I want to just get on with the trading.

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finpro trading has change there address they are no longer in the U.K. here’s there new address

PO Box 2359, Providence Industrial Estate, Mahé, Seychelles. no more phone support

you can see bottom right of there home page https://finprotrading.com/

I feel better now that Finpro & Coinexx are no longer in the UK operating within arms reach of FAS. I’m still with Hugo, but they are really asking for trouble with what they are doing.

I’m still keen to hear peoples results with coinexx. Especially fees and spreads

Maybe not – It looks like Hugosway is staying one step ahead of the Nanny State Sheriff –



Edit:

The Hugosway Terms and Conditions still specify SVG as the place of incorporation. So, possibly, they are in the process of changing their domicile. If so, I would expect the Terms and Conditions to be revised to reflect that in the near future.

Somebody should phone them, or start a Live Chat, and find out.

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this is good news, i read somewhere there was 2-5 million dollars a month going offshore to escape the nanny states so these brokers are getting influx of traders

If I had to guess, I think it’s mostly EU traders moving to the large ASIC regulated brokers (Pepperstone, IC markets, think markets ect) or to their existing EU broker’s offshore entities.

I plan on using coinexx. My biggest hangup, what about filing the FBAR for the IRS? I want to be honest with the IRS. My fear is that I list coinexx accounts in the FBAR, and I get them in trouble or get them on the radar. How are you guys dealing with filing FBAR’s with these offshore brokers?

Quoting forbes…What if your trading is on Binance, the offshore site? If your account is worth at least $10,000, you are obliged to tell the government about it in an FBAR filing. You were planning to omit that form, too? Then understatement penalties may be the least of your worries. Prepare for a visit to the penitentiary.