Hedge trading legitimacy for retail consumers

Hi all,

Last week end, I was trying to improve my strategy (after I faced losses due to “technical issues” from my broker deleting all my trades…on 29 January 2021)…taking into account hazard due to “technical issues”…

I then found on youtube a strategy used by reputable traders based on hedging : here is a link to one of these videos.

On the next Monday, 01st February 2021, I tried to integrate this strategy with my SMA crossover strategy and then I faced further “technical issues” with charts anormally slow and even different from other platform.

I strongly believe, as stated previously, I have some haters, who spy me on the daily basis (making especially defamation in order to pull me down) have contacted my brokers in order to create “technical issues” resulting in my loss of three quarter of my live account.

Most of the time these professional manipulative people instruct other people to do something wrong by lying to them (or wrapping a small fact that is true in big lies…) and in this case they may have told the broker that I hedged my position…considering it (in my case) “illegal”. In parallel, I saw that the broker put a note in my account history transactions (please see the file attached) stating I hedged this trade with that…etc.

Also, I would like to know if hedging is forbidden to retail costumers while it is not for banks and/or market makers.

Cheers

I am using a spreadbetting company registered with the UK FCA and there’s nothing I can see in their terms & conditions that would stop me hedging. Unlike in the US etc., clients can simultaneously hold positions in the same instrument in opposite directions.

OK. Maybe it is considered illegal from Tradersway side…but even in this case this doesn’t justify their previous cancellation of my orders that leadme to search for more sophisticated strategy.Anyway, due to my fincial background, soon or later I will have tried to hedge my positions using the same pair or others strongly correlated to it.
We are in a national lockdown, and an entrepreneur like me who doesn’t have even the right for any government grant/benefit seems now penalised for using professional traders strategies…something is wrong…

Tommor, I visited (with my present context I have to…) your profile and since 2016 you created only 19 topics/threads but you responded to about 5900 posts…this a little bit strange don’t you think? What is the name of your broker?Does he accept (unlawfully) “open roof”/virtually jailed traders?

That’s weird that it says “close hedge”. Unless there is an automatic message for traders who take the opposite side of the same pair, at the same time.

What if you try hedging from another account?

Frankly I don’t know. In fact, at the first instance I was trying to check if this strategy work for real…What I found an abuse is that the broker never notified me that this is forbidden…instead maliciously they penalised me and apparently unlawfully “blacklisted” with other brokers (I’ve seen something similar on my account opened this week with xm where they put on the top of the frame “hedge”) like I was a thief while it was them who stolen my money…indeed, a clear will to reputational damage…

In a world of a fair justice one could even consider the acts of these corrupt agents as attempts of murder…as we are in a pandemic locdown since about a year and my present only expected income (no right to any benefit…) was from my daily trading…with numerous bills to pay including the hostel where I’m presently blocked.

I spreadbet through LCG.

Spreadbet is something special. In addition, it seems there is no minimum deposit stated indicating this broker is not trader for small account.

Anyway, even without hedge trading, I believe I have a good mechanical system as much as the brokers don’t bias the platform.

You still have not responded to my questions above…

I can’t imagine such a strategy being illegal and causing so much trouble.

It seems strange to me. Have you contacted customer service for an explaination?

They are in full negation…knowing they did worst than that : they illegally prevent me to trade by creating “technical issues” during my trading sessions based on instruction of brittish criminal government agents trying to take over my business (see my previous topic)…because they don’t want me to have any more income…even for paying for my rent or hostel…

Last Thursday, I recorded one of my trade where this time the broker XM (“regulated”…) was unlawfully interfering with my trades (disabling the orders, etc. just like Tradersway did…) : after I sent them by email this video these criminal government agents seems to have cut the video as now it doesn’t show its last part where I illegimately receive an error message on XM platform (while I provide right parameters).

It is clearly a sytematic racism issue with clear attempts of murder…and this is not their first attempts…

For me Boris Johnson is worst than Donald Trump…since the British police kill blacks in UK maliciously…or “crash” them (kill them/break them psychologically) as they use to say…

But as I previously said this time they have not chosen the right one…

Your Broker most probably did nothing wrong with those hedge trades, you did.
Your broker did what you told them to do, and that was to close the trade (hedge the position). Since the broker doesnt allow hedging, it wil close the position automatically.
You should try to understand what hedging his first, before coming here with your conspiracy theories.

Brokers wont notify you off anything, it is your job to read their terms and see what is alowed and what is not.
Every broker will have you check one box before opening an account, where it says something like, “by opening an account the user agrees with the terms and conditions”

I see…for you with several attempts of murders (including with physical assaults leaving me with an eye injury for life [CICA refused to pay any compensation due to a police officer wrong statement against me stating that I “didn’t cooperate with her”…while emails provided to CICA (and later to HMCTS) clearly show that I fully cooperated with the police after the assault on me] on me during last six years (at least two attempts of physical assaults or murders…) …covered by the police and the Parliamentary and Health Ombudsman (I sent them complaints by emails with obvious evidence)…is conspiracy…“racism doesn’t exist”…

Hedging is teached at the uni and is used by banks/hedge funds every day…and I have a master degree in market finance and was FSA certificated…so keep your hypocrite advises for yourself…Everyone is not uneducate like criminals like you unrolling in government organisations in order to blackmail honest people.

As stated I implemented on 02 February 2021 this hedging strategy (found on youtube) AFTER the broker cancelled my trades FOR NO REASON on 29 January 2021 causing me losses, etc.

As I previously stated I don’t waste my time with people having negation as a culture…so Take CARE!!!

Hi @BlueFalcon, Brokers would outlaw Hedging tomorrow if they could get away with it. Hedging is a very powerful strategy that can limit drawdown which is not in your Brokers best interest…

One way to Hedge on a “Nil Hedge Broker” is to open 2 separate accounts and Hedge across the two.
ie: If you opened a Buy position on say, AUDUSD in Account A. and a Hedge is needed to lock a loss until price returns to a similar level. You should be able to open a Sell on AUDUSD over on Account B., thus hedging the position without your Broker closing a hedge on the single account…

Most here in BP don’t understand the concept… So pay no attention to naysayers in these threads… Done properly hedging works to limit downside risk.
I have demonstrated many, many variations across these threads on applying Hedging strategies in these markets.

Another option to research other than Joseph Nemeth is this YouTube channel by Alex De Plois who has lots of different strategies for Hedging… Not saying these all work, but it will give you snippets of information that could help you formulate and develop your own systems.

Hope this is of some help.

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@Trendswithbenefits, I think soon or later they will “cross check” the accounts…based on ID, IP address, etc.

In my case, the corrupt undercovers traking me online and offline will report to them instructing to cause further damages. In my case the broker didn’t formally said anything but instead where preventing to make orders or cancel my trades or provided fake (very slow) charts…

Another one of the main video I use to test this strategy is here.

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I don’t think they can if they are in separate accounts, My advice would be call a Nil Hedge Broker (Not yours) and ask them outright… I began with IG Markets many years ago and I couldn’t understand why when I opened an opposing (Hedge) position the original trade would close… once I understood what I was doing… that is how I got around it.

I can see by your previous posts of your distrust with these markets, and I totally understand. Believe me I’m even more cynical than you, but after awhile you realise that it’s not quite that bad.

I have linked another option of hedging on a nil hedge Broker… Good Luck.

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If your broker did not want your business, they could simply close your account. They do not have to warn you they might do this.

But is it possible your broker closing your trades due to lack of margin? Again, they do not have to warn you in advance they are going to do this, and this would not be a serious enough issue for them to close your account.

@tommor Nothing to do with the cases you described, the “technical issues” started on Friday 29 January 2021 while I was having single trades but I previously won during the two last hours six trades and no loss…

I’m looking for a way to block you from all my next topics since you are clearly trolling…

@Trendswithbenefits Nowadays it seems hard to find a good broker requiering a deposit of less than $10 (I lost to much money during the last years due to some negative entities…).

XM allow a minimum deposit of $10 but only a maximum leverage of 1:30.

What do you mean trolling? So far I’m the only person to have given a Like to one of your posts. I’ve answered your direct questions and given information you requested and tried to make sensible suggestions that might help - I watched the video clip you linked to in that post and found it sensible and informative. I sympathised with the stresses that must be experienced by living in a hostel and trying to trade at the same time. I don’t believe I’ve used any defamatory or offensive language but please point it out if you have seen it in my posts.

For your information, if any post is offensive, you can flag it: if a user attract enough flags moderators may take action. I’m sure you can also contact them directly if you feel the need.

@tommor You should not “sympathise” with the fact I’m presently in an hostel but INSTEAD I’m a victim of your corrupt government and police officers who stolen my business and now trying to blackmail me and/or illegally kick me off from the UK without paying me their bills of above 15 million pounds sterling. You are also definitively trolling by your hypocrite maneers…and I don’t want nor your “likes” nor your “advice”…

Your advice were obvious (and some were even wrong…) just like last Friday about the trading plan…

I didn’t check who gave me a like…I’m presently focusinf on the way to earn my first $100 and move on.

Today, about 2 hours ago, I faced again an attempt of entrapment (same yesterday…)…the corrupt undercovers are paid for that…

From my first topic I told you to ignore me in this forum…and this statement is permanent…