You gotta be willing to pay some for it. Don’t expect everything to be given to you for free.
Hahaha for free? My friend don’t be the lazy type to buy a dvd and then expect everything to work out. READ and watch free videos. Trade and lose money and repeat. i bought anton’s dvd with a few years of experience and i tell you if it was free no one would appreciate it, therefore it has such a hefty price tag.
I have his Forex course but now i want the other course. I wanna live life like Anton, champagne in Monte Carlo, easy life:))
Im willing to trade pro forex masterclass course for pRo trading masterclass
I have the other course. Can we exchange them please ? Thanks
Hey there, I have the Pro trading masterclass. You still willing to exchange?
Hey,
Im half way through stocks trading masterclass series, Im wondering if anyone here is making any money using knowledge acquired from Anton’s course?
He focuses on macroeconomy and prefers swing trading over day trading, holding positions 1-3 months.
Course is expensive and Anton talk about it as if its silver bullet but does it deliver in real life?
Hi
Can you please forward a link where I can download it or please forward it to me. I am talking about the forex course. I have lost too much money and I can’t afford it. I only beg.
Thank you
Have you read the thread at all?
Do you realise that its purpose is to expose the author of the course you’re asking about as a fraud and a scammer, not to promote his teaching?!
I can’t comment on his teachings as I’ve never taken or purchased his course - but i’d edge on the side of caution ‘calling’ him a scammer. He did work at JP Morgan and did do a TV series on teaching ordinary ‘every day people’ how to trade stocks (funded by Lex Van Dam), a similar approach intended to replicate the Turtle Traders experiment, aka Richard Dennis.
Yes he is obnoxious and blunt and has been known to say rather controversial comments, but then again he has millions and has ‘made it’ - it’s up to other people to try and see through the smoke and mirrors and make their own judgment?
I suppose you could call me biased, as I may have been throughout this thread, however after talking to him a few times I’d certainly not jump to conclusions after doing some real due diligence.
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Hi Iroegbu,
Can you upload the video file with the title ‘18. Macro Fundamentals Driver 8, with Excel Examples’. It should be of a 1:57:48 duration. I know you posted on Jun 13, but please do reply to my post as quickly as you can.
Thanks
I didn’t call him a scammer.
I just pointed out to the person asking for the course that the purpose of this thread was to point out that the course is dreadful and not worth buying. As it says in the first post. I’m more or less “quoting the OP”, in other words.
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can i get it please ? I want to see it for myself
hi Torulf
I also bought the ptm videos 27 videos , the first 2 videos you find him for free on youtube,
I am currently in video 20,
I personally like the videos PTM Masterclasses, worth it, I am still a beginner and as a beginner it is very interesting to get this info, because if you have to search yourself, as I did myself, then you come alone finding crap on the internet.
cheaters against and a lot of nonsensical information, I never found this information on the internet, in anton kreils videos he also tells you that you find all that information on the internet for free, but you still have to know where and how you interpret information, and this Anton explained very well in the video’s
I find Torulf rather negative,for someone who is experienced and already has a very good basis, the ptm
not really a lot of contribution and certainly not for this price, but for someone with very little experience in fundamental, this will save a lot of information that is useful, but I also assume that you have a good basis of fundamental analysis, that you do not need help or other lessons that are costly to understand the fundamentel,
Are the videos worth the effort? then I will answer “yes” especially for beginners these videos are a must, for experienced fundamentle traders this video will also be worth it, but maybe not for this price of 3000 $. I am currently a beginner trader with very little fundamental knowledge, very satisfied with ptm videos, now what I have learned i have too put it in practice, after I have seen the videos completely, I keep you informed 
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Moustic
In the past, I had great pleasure to follow Anton Kreil on Twitter and see all the dreamers , who follow Anton Kreil
and then disappeared into the blue …
I do not want to repeat my criticism of Anton Kreil courses and false promotional arts …
But statistically speaking with 99.5% probability you will lose your investment and your view has probably changed when you get a bit more wiser.
So talk about a year, "I’m doing the way I do , the less noise I engage in the lesser opinions of so-called experts, the better I trading .
After I had studied the videos I tried to find a reveiw of Anton Kreil material that describes a realistic reality.
The closest I came was this, carefully read through this review give your comment
What you think …!!!
Having been through the course I feel that I can possibly help with the facts on what you get, what you do not get, and offer some insight into whether or not Anton’s pitch and marketing is the “TRUTH” as he so often states. My brother actually works in a Hedge Fund. I only recently graduated and had been to one of the ITPM/Anton Kreil seminars. I had also watched MDT and some of the videos on YouTube. My bro is a bit of a fav when it comes to the parents, so I never really asked him for an advice on what course to look at, or if one of these programmes was in any way going to be helpful to me. So I pretty much went for it. Anton gave a 40% discount which was great. I’ll start with the course itself.
The support is fairly minimal if you just go for the video series. You can send an email, however really that is pretty futile in terms of real coaching and guidance. You would have to go bespoke for that, which again is just a few remote sessions with the guy over an agreed period, at his convenience.
The video series consists of 28 videos. The first thing I would say is that they could be improved upon in the sense that Anton seems to spend a lot of time talking about things that are clearly designed to lead onto you buying into ideas that will lead to having an account with the institute, and trading in a way that you never draw capital. That’s fine if that’s your aim, however it is quite clearly a serious aspect of his business model and huge chunks of his teachings and seminars are based around delivering on that objective of his. There is no doubt about that. I’ll give you video for video here:
V1: Pro Vs Retail … Pretty useless to be honest. Just a sales pitch.
V2: Pro Vs Retail - Again, pretty much more of Anton trying to be clever to his own end. This is not to say there are not minor elements of what is said that is accurate, it is more to say that you really learn very little here.
V3 & 4: Distribution & Odds: Sounds fancy, however in reality it is year 1 under-graduate material. Seriously, it’s based around getting some free data from Yahoo and plotting a bar chart (histogram). beyond that there are some very basic descriptive stats. It is all very basic and a massively flawed argument. It is quite clear that it is more of a pitch to convince the world that day trading is to be avoided most of the time and that you should use the “leave your cash with Anton” approach. Ok Saxo, whatever. That’s his objective here. The rational is a long trade on the open, take off at the close by the way. That is the empirical evidence. Very amateur.
V5/6/7: Volatility stuff. This is ok actually. You look at backward & forward looking and will be shown very basic methods of analysing the volatility of a security/asset. You will use ATR (Average True Range), the VIX, and he has also plugged a Black-Scholes model into Excel for you. Decent stuff. That said, what is given is readily available on Investopedia. that is how simple it is.
V8/9: Framework - This is good. Gives you a good framework to work within. Especially good for a beginner. Very intuitive.
V10/17: Correlating indicators: This chunk of the video series really frustrated me. All that is given to you are some spreadsheets with some free data downloaded from the net into Excel. So GDP, Manufacturing, housing data etc. Covers US, EA, Asia. It is very basic stuff and is something that most students would be aware of. It is no more than a basic grounding for people with pretty much zero knowledge. It is macro at its most basic.
V17: Just a recap of what has been covered so far
V18/19: Top down approach - This is good, and is one of the most common approaches used in the industry. Again, easily Googled. Nothing is taught beyond what you’d get on Google. If anyone wishes to challenge me on that present the evidence please.
V20/21: Gate-keeping/Capital deployment: This is just a simple spreadsheet for creating a watch list. You get shown spread-trading to. Both are good and Anton teaches these 2 well, without much BS. Well, I never spotted any here! Again though, the theme continues here in terms of this being at a very basic level. You can Google and find this stuff at this level easily at no cost.
V22/24: Sold as risk management, self-awareness. The RM is largely using true range, beta, and using the Kelly stat for looking at yourself! Pretty amateur risk management stuff (not what you’d get in a professional environment. You would use true range stuff however not as a proper risk management model. Beta of course is a good to know and arguably necessary. The Kelly stat, well whatever. Again, all available free on Google.
V26: Day trading: Just a sales pitch to put you off it
V27: Trading Plan: It’s ok
V28: Exam prep: Anton talking for a few minutes about nothing overly useful.
Overall my summary for you is that the programme is a decent grounding for a person with zero knowledge. It is nothing more than a basic introduction and framework for you to go away with. It is not as is sold. It is sold as “the most comprehensive trading programme in the world!!”. Clearly it is nothing of the sort. That is not to say that at the most basic level it is not useful. It is more to say that sadly it is sold as something that it is a million miles away from being. I can’t say that the many positive reviews out there are not accurate. However considering the above I find them peculiar to say the least. I can give you an example. In one video P/E is discussed. That is it however. There are no other items in terms of financial statement analysis discussed. It is incredibly basic and lazy. I say lazy because it is a video series produced once, very cleverly that can be farmed out over and over again. That is fine if it is sold like that, however it is clearly not.
Anton seems to go to lengths in his marketing and pitch that result in him spending a lot of time talking about himself and trying to discredit every other person/entity around. Even at the most basic level. There is a constant theme to this. I also feel that he is pretty reckless. He constantly looks to appeal to people that he sees as impressionable or naive, and it works. Students/graduates mainly. Telling them they would be better investing themselves than trying to forge a proper career in banking, or other financial institutions. Dangling carrots about crazy earnings at Hedge Funds and ideas of being placed at one through the ITPM. I’m sure a <1% maybe achieve that. Is that a function of learning what I described above? Not so sure. The whole telling the world CFA is no use and suggesting it is better to seek a proper trading education? What, the stuff I described above? You must be having a laugh.
It’s an scenario for a guy that is obviously very successful and very intelligent. I can only guess that he is not in this for the long-term, or that he thinks the conveyor will continue regardless. I’m honestly not sure.
I’d sign this off by saying that I am not knocking the programme in itself. For a student/graduate that wants a very basic introduction and an idea on a framework it is fine. It is poor value $$$ wise in that sense, however with a 40% discount and lifetime access it is ok. It is not the way that it is sold. It is absolutely nowhere near some other programmes out there when you compare the content. The guy is a master of sales and marketing though by the look of it!
It’s a pity that he has to approach things the way he does. Take the seed planted that you will turn £10k into £1m in 7 years. That is insane for an individual. 25% p.a. returns (I’m assuming risk-adjusted at a good level) on leveraged products. Every year! Clearly madness. I’m pretty sure the idea at the seminar was to take £10k cash (if you have it) and use that. No cash left in the bank or anything. I’m not sure that is sound financial advice. That said, he has no obligation to be our financial adviser. All that FSA stuff is great marketing. They are an appointed rep for Wallwood which is nothing to do with our programmes. Our programmes are not under a regulated situation.
In the end, I’ll repeat that if you want a basic intro to some very basic concepts in finance without the hassle of Google, then go get a 40% discount and buy it. It is structured and you can have lifetime access. Just know what you are buying and try to ignore the marketing whether it is YouTube, Twitter, Email etc. The marketing, PR, and delivery from a sales angle is exceptional. He is a exceptionally good at what he does. And business aside, seems like a sound guy. I’m possibly a little unfair on the bespoke option as clearly I never went through that. Possibly it is more hands on and get’s into more sophisticated stuff. Maybe worth a look.
Anyway, I hope that helps.
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@torulf39 Hey… do you mind sending me the full course videos? or selling me? I’m really interested to learn about trading.
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WHY!!!
My point is as retail trader you wast time , go to a stock club you learn more and better and cheaper.
If you want to learn to daytrade read my post and you find link to best education materiale in market and to a fragent of the price as Anton Kreil want…
Are you able to send me the course material or a link to the FX course of the Portfolio course please. I agree, I don’t think it is worth the money. If Anton wasn’t over promote and bag everyone I would have probably bought the course if it was reasonably priced- but it is a rip off currently.
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If you don’t want to pay the guy the money, Why shouod you have access to his knowledge ?
Because the pricing is a total rip-off and the marketing is a bullshit holier than thou attitude. I can do a CFA course cheaper than this - so where is the value. I don’t mind paying - but I wont be ripped off by Anton’s gimmicks either!
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