Some interesting dynamics alluded to there. 
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Maybe she’s new to social media, or at least sharing on social. I could see how people trolling you could put you in a bad place, but like you, who cares what these fools think (unless it’s legitimate criticism on something I can fix)… But like you said, use it as motivation. Keep doing what you’re doing. For yourself, not anybody else.
Good stuff @PipMeHappy!
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More about the loneliness I suppose. Like you can have a ton of online friends but at the end of the day, it’ll still just be you by yourself.
Yeah definitely gutsy for someone to post their actual identitiy online and doing something finance-related… as a woman! I feel like it must be very hard for women to be taken seriously in spaces that are generally male-dominated like finance or gaming.
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OMG 
I can’t believe I only saw this now. It’s interesting to see how the pandemic basically led/ reintroduced her to forex trading, and now she’s a profitable trader! 
I also love how she shared her trading strategy/ routine in a very detailed way!
This one’s another amazing interview @PipMeHappy! 
She seems super lovely. <3
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It’s also hard for men to be taken seriously as well. It’s not necessarily gender-specific. Men have to earn respect from other men, just like women do. The problem is that women have lower tolerances for a lot of things than men do.
So, that’s the first thing men think of when women try to do something that men are doing. If men are playing football and a girl wants to join, no one in their right mind would want her on their team. She’s going to get hurt, she’s going to complain. Blah blah blah. It will really slow down the game. Hence, men don’t want women involved in the game with them.
When men work in an office and they have a certain culture. If a girl enters, the men already know the culture has to change. It’s really annoying. Naturally, they’re going to defend their space by being mean to her. And finance could be rather aggressive, meaning testosterone is high.
When men’s testosterone is high, that’s not the place for a woman.
I remember one time I was watching a football game on tv with a group of (male) friends. My friend, the host, was getting angry because our team was missing goals. He was getting mad and yelling really loud.
His wife passed by and told him to calm down. Of course, everyone ignored her. But, it ruins the energy in the room when a women puts her two cents into the activity.
When testosterone is up, men don’t like feminine energy.
When men are watching a sports game, and the wife comes in and starts asking questions, it’s really annoying. She’s slowing down the momentum of the activity.
I’m starting to repeat myself, but I hope I’m making my point clear.
The bottom line is that you think it’s hard for women, but it’s even harder for men. Men will hold back less with other men. With women, they’ll often censor themselves.
Regardless, it’s the internet, and social networks can be weird. Another thing to consider is that, when men try hard to do something, and then a girl can do it better, it’s a HUGE blow to the ego.
So rather than facing the fact that ¨hey I still suck as a trader¨, it’s emotionally less risky to just take frustration out on her. In that sense, it may be harder to be accepted into the boys’ club. Some people she’ll never win over. But who cares? Who wants to engage with negative people anyway?
My point is exactly the reverse: that it is KEY that men ‘censor’ (I prefer ‘alter’) their behaviour when a male-only workforce is exposed to diverse staff for the first time. Personally I have worked in (almost) female-only work settings and I noticed how different my experience was compared to a woman entering a male-only environment: the threat is not there, and that is one of the main problems that is often quoted in the experience of women in male-only (or majority male) work cultures. So why can men not ‘censor’ themselves too and stop the crass, harassing, demeaning sexual comments, for example? We have CHOICES: either we want to be a civilised, respectful gender, or be destined to be cavemen incapable of adapting to accommodate people who are not ‘like us’.
This is where I fundamentally disagree, as well, that male-only competitiveness is a force for good: fine to have mates round (guys’ night out; girls’ night out) that are of your gender, but at work it does not always bring this great benefit to be so exclusive. After nearly nine years of starting this thread, it remains the same point of it that, as I mentioned right at the beginning of it, that it was not just banking practices that brought the 2008 crash about, but also a particular male mentality or mindset where high-risk is not only tolerated but accepted and indeed encouraged; historically, women are more risk-averse, which means they are more prudent investors. While crashes and market cycles are complex things, it is not unreasonable to think that if the mentality of high-risk cultures were somehow rebalanced it may not lead to such imbalances: i.e., individual male traits multiplied by large numbers of employees and then companies and nations participating in financial markets can lead to the kind of massive side effects seen in 2008.
While this is speculative, the experience of s e x u a l harassment of women online is REAL and men do not get p e n i s pics sent to them constantly, or r a p e threats or other kinds of intimidation of this nature, which is vile to say the least and leaves the recipients feeling completely unable to continue participating in online discussions. This is a MALE problem and we should open up about why some of our fellow men are doing this TO women while hiding behind keyboards.
So let us not blame women for stepping into work environments that are male and how they should tolerate the consequences, because it seems to me that it is men who need to change here.
It is time for CHANGE,
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Interesting perspective. I can see your point. I’m glad we can share opinions even though we see things quite differently. haha
If I never hear other people’s thoughts, how else can I learn, right?
Again, thank you for taking time for these interviews. Please keep them coming!!
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Yup this makes sense. Kind of sounds like not being inclusive. Re: your friend’s wife telling her husband to calm down, I understand how that can be a mood killer and perhaps she needs to do her own thing while ya’ll are watching the game lol.
Haha. I think this is something neither of us can say because we both haven’t experienced what it’s like to be a woman AND a man. I can say it’s hard for women but can’t say it’s harder than being a man. 
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I really think this is a huge factor. I’m glad you had that experience. That definitely shows in the way you write!
They absolutely can. I know a lot of men who are able to do this just fine and do not feel like they’re being “emasculated.” I think being respectful should not be seen as weak.
Amen. The standards will definitely be higher for women but if someone wants to do it, I hope they know they absolutely can! (just won’t be easy)
I actually think about the female presidents a lot and wonder just how much gender is being factored in when it comes to everything they do…
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Thanks @ponponwei , some great points there…
I have been reading this book Women and Leadership By Julia Gillard | Used | 9780552177900 | World of Books
and Clinton is one of the politicians interviewed: she talks about how she was judged on her hair on her presidential campaign, among other things… The book interviews several women leaders, from African nations to Scandinavian ones and also former UK prime minister May, and some of the common issues faced by women in politics appear to be across cultural borders: they are indeed global.
I think we have a long way to go…
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So what? JFK was well-liked, partially because he was a good-looking dude. Public figures get judged by everything. If Clinton doesn’t want to be judged by her hair style, she should wear a hat, so she can be judged by her hat instead.
Everyone gets judged by their hair. Would you go to a job interview without combing your hair?
Well, they want to play the game, that’s their entrance fee. Men face their own challenges in life. Men just have to suck it up.
And if you think women should be equal to men, should we remove the privileges women get over men? Women often get into clubs free. Should that be stopped?
He says it more eloquently than I.
The thing isn’t about hiding hair, or shaving it off, or just hiding under a blanket: women THE MOMENT THEY WALK ON STAGE get judged on their looks by men AND women in the room:
the point in the book that was made is that male colleague politicians would get a suit on and go about their business whereas women were EXPECTED to spend one-to-two hours extra on hair, make-up, choice of attire, etc. It is not a level competition when you judge someone on appearance so heavily that you cannot even hear what they are saying. Read the headlines that appear regularly on newspapers when ‘those’ (u.e. women) politicians meet in public for discussing important issues faced by their countries: “Battle of the babes” I think went the headline when the prime minister of England and the first minister of Scotland met, I think the focus was ON THEIR LEGS. Would you EVER think that is an acceptable way to headline a political meeting between two heads of state? No, it wasn’t the only case. And it distracts from what is being said. I think it is a huge detriment to politics to treat women participants in this way. It shows a complete disregard for their professionalism.
Saying that women have a hard time does not negate the experience of men and of their struggles: nor can we compare their respective struggles in every sense because some of these struggles are gender-specific. This is where just swapping a man for a woman in films may not always translate well.
I acknowledge that we’re not going to see eye to eye on this. haha. So, we’ll just share our opinions, and hopefully others will share their opinions as well.
Women, themselves, base their value on their looks. Hence, cosmetics and hi heels. Same for beauty pageants. Women compare each other on their looks.
Women WANT to be recognized for their appearance. And men like women’s appearance, also. We mostly see a women’s appearance first, then her character.
And just because a woman enters the workplace or political arena, I’m supposed to turn off my biology? Not likely.
Women want to be seen as equals to men, but will never perform equally. Never. There may be a few women who have done well in their endeavors ahead of their male counterparts, but that case is extremely rare.
Women should have the choice to do what they want. But they should also accept the consequences.
Modern women often have trouble accepting that. Women want to be objects of desire, but want to choose when they can be judged by their looks. That’s unrealistic.
That’s just a catchy headline, and they’re trying to pull in readers. But if the newspaper reported more on their legs, than their meeting, that reflects on the newspaper. And it’s probably just a trashy newspaper that shouldn’t be taken too seriously anyway.
But women will always be objects of desire, and their appearance will always distract from their professionalism. That’s the way the world/biology is. If you want it to change, tell women to wear a chador so no one can see any details of their body.
And no, I’m not joking. If women don’t want to be judged by their body, they should cover it completely. Period.
And no make-up either.
@PipMeHappy Don’t you think wearing a chador and no make-up will drastically reduce people judging a woman by her looks?
Please answer this question.
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Who exactly is “Blaming women” ? - Since the '70’s women have been cultivated and men actively discriminated against in every work and educational respect !
So much so that now 60% of all women in the Western World go to “University” - and if we assume that perhaps 10 % of intelligent women choose Not to go there then we can see that “university degrees” have been dumbed down to the state that only 20% of those who can manage to live independently in society are deemed “unfit” to undertake the learning necessary to “get a degree”.
So a degree is clearly practically a worthless document and indeed 60% of boys nowadays realise this and don’t get conned into the lifetime of paying back the expense of doing so.
Women no longer have children as a “normal” part of life in the West - and men are refusing to pander to the Fairytale of a “family life” - so there is little point in pretending that there is somehow a “Need” for those whose chromasomes dictate one pattern of genitalia to be “nurtured” and “protected” from those with different chromasomes.
Most men do not have the necessary entrance qualifications to “get into” these “high paid positions” and as shown above Most women Do !
You’ve won mate ! - stop pretending there is still some sort of “protection” needed - get back to being a stay at home dad and give us a bell "When the lights go out in New York"
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Such high-risk mentalities are also responsible for major science discoveries, and hopping on boats to sail across the planet in search of new worlds. This mentality is responsible for the expansion of the different empires throughout history. It’s a gruesome venture filled with pros and cons.
You know what Julia Gillard’s book doesn’t include? Empires that expanded under female-rule. Women can show leadership once the world has become civilized. That’s a bit late in the game for women to be calling themselves brave.
Honestly, I suggest you put that book down. It’s not doing you any favors. I suggest a more masculine alternative.
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I think I have sort of said my piece and do not want this thread to become the Pip & Dushi show or the Pip & Falstaff lounge … I have read your comments and you have been very gracious, as I have with you or anyone on this thread - at least I hope so - but I have my beliefs as others do, which as long as they are not directly harming someone then we can only argue over them as far as they make us think.
I always come away from conversations like these questioning myself, rethinking my angle on these topics, however I will not fundamentally stop believing in what I believe, which I have made no secret about in all my posts, here as elsewhere. To make it clear: I am not after a pat on the shoulder from anyone, although of course positive feedback is welcome, therefore I will continue expressing these beliefs wherever I feel it is timely for me to do so. I am sorry that this grates with others’ sensibilities, but it is what it is.
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Perhaps the ‘we’ in that last sentence means all men?
When last did I peer in the mirror, shave, groom my hair - even smile back at the image - maybe we all like to be recognized for our appearance,
We judge very quickly by appearance or maybe it’s my prejudice - I see the black cloak but not the fear that caused it to be worn - a fear caused not by women.
I heard the click of the high heels come down the corridor, then saw the handbag - the Anaesthetist was just checking in to see was all okay.
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Whoa whoa whoa.
Dang bro. You hurting me here with your choice of words.
So silly. Then men shouldn’t wear suits or try to look nice either? This crazy talk.
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Women always want a man that’s at least their equal, but preferably better. Men work harder than women. That’s why men earn more money. Men will work longer hours, take more risk, and suffer longer.
The best in anything in the world will always be a man. Men are competitive about anything. Even about stupid things. If you throw a rock, I want to throw it farther.
The highest earners are men. The best chefs in the world are men. The best engineers are men. The best programmers are men. The fastest runners are men. The highest jumpers are men. Men even compete with women in beauty contests! Men are trying to be better women, than women!
But here’s the rub…without women, men cannot procreate. When a man has a family, he has a purpose. He works and WANTS to give to his wife and family.
That’s why so many men become lost after a divorce. Not just because they lose their home and their money, but they lose their purpose as well.
This is why women are so important for men. It’s not just a physical thing. A woman’s love and nurturing spirit is like nothing else. It motivates a man to keep going when he feels like giving up. If man is the car, the woman is the gas. He needs her to keep him going.
Why?
Men wearing suits and women wearing tight clothing is completely different. Especially because it’s the women complaining about the men. Women complain that men are too inappropriate in the workplace. Women complain that men are too sexual. Well, why do you think that is?
It’s because they’re seeing sexual stuff!! If a man can see any part of your body, he’s thinking about sexual stuff. If your shoulders are showing, if your knees are showing…even if he can only see your eyes…he’s trying to draw conclusions about the rest of your body, based on that alone.
For example:
She’s covered up. But just based on her eyes, dudes are thinking ¨hmmm, would i go out with her or not?? I bet you the rest of her is really pretty…yeah, I’d definitely go out with her.¨
The TRUE answer is to cover up completely:
If you want NO sexual attention, then you should cover up the things that are drawing the sexual attention.
But I understand, it’s a new concept for women who are not used to it.
I’m not saying that men shouldn’t take responsibility for their actions, but I’m saying that their actions shouldn’t be provoked. If you wear provocative clothing, you should expect some aggressive men approaching you. It doesn’t matter if they are wrong or not, that’s just how the world is.
You can try to change the world, or you can accept it as it is, and do your part to protect yourself.
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That is absolutely what you’re saying and also that men are weak and can’t control themselves. Either way, there is no point in me arguing about this as you seem dead set on this belief. I just feel bad for @PipMeHappy whose thread has now lost its purpose and also for Blayne Macauley that it got derailed like this.
The topic is featuring a woman trader and somehow we find ourselves talking about sexual attention. Cool cool.
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